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21COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:51 am

Hawk Eye


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@cse_investor wrote:
@Hawk Eye wrote:Then why did Dr.Senthivel disposed 1.1mn shares in aug 2011.

Three Reasons:

1) He didn't know how good their results really were (only the owners knew at that time)
2) He needed cash for other investments
3) He didn't know who the buyer was (the deal was brokered)

Dr. T is a smart investor, but even the smartest investor takes wrong decisions at times, so don't follow other people blindly. In my eyes COLO is still a very good pick as I agree it will have a second run sooner or later.


Is this the only undervalued share in the market?
Is CSE trading on fundamentals these days?

22COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:55 am

cse_investor


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Hawk Eye wrote:
@cse_investor wrote:
@Hawk Eye wrote:Then why did Dr.Senthivel disposed 1.1mn shares in aug 2011.

Three Reasons:

1) He didn't know how good their results really were (only the owners knew at that time)
2) He needed cash for other investments
3) He didn't know who the buyer was (the deal was brokered)

Dr. T is a smart investor, but even the smartest investor takes wrong decisions at times, so don't follow other people blindly. In my eyes COLO is still a very good pick as I agree it will have a second run sooner or later.


Is this the only undervalued share in the market?
Is CSE trading on fundamentals these days?

Of course not, and my post above only gave reasons as to why Dr. T sold his stake. COLO is subject to a play, the fundamentals and strong performance were the spark that caused the fire on this one.

23COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:07 am

smallville


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
The following are few points we need to understand regarding these research reports;

1) Broker firms necessarily don’t do researches just for the goodness for their customers, they do this cuz they need to convince ppl to buy some stocks which they think would increase their commission in short-med run first. Then as per the justified valuations given, the ppl who buy top needs to hold on this as a long term investment so they point out the future value too.. So now u can understand that their primary motive is to sell stocks to their clients and the same time not getting blamed.

2) They do give about a time frame of 01 year period at least otherwise stated as short term. So within this period any person with less knowledge on market can even guess that with the growing economy of SL, good companies with a fair working capital could grow as well.

3) The recommendations were far less in number when the downturn began and one broker recommended DIMO around 1500 and also others recommend DIMO (about 1-2 months back) below 1400 but the valuations were done for a period of 1 year from the research date. So regardless of whether u bought DIMO in 1400-1600 category, still their valuations of DIMO reaching 2000 is in tact.

4) Normally in these reports future financials are estimated using various projection accounting techniques but the future is not a foreseeable entity. I have not seen in any report the relevant method is described though some facts as to why they think the company would perform in future too could be stated.

However its a good idea to read these reports to get educated how broker firms come into conclusions of companies' future and to have a second opinion on your investment decision. But dont 100% rely on these and invest without doing your own research.

We know what happened to a good company like BFL with continues QoQ - YoY earnings growth.. Their earnings were disappointing in last couple of qtrs and ppl felt bad so share price started to fall with the bear market. Again here I'm not saying BFL wont go but we need to understand certain companies have seasonal earnings as well. i.e - poultry, plantations sectors.

24COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:19 pm

investor1984


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@smallville wrote:The following are few points we need to understand regarding these research reports;

1) Broker firms necessarily don’t do researches just for the goodness for their customers, they do this cuz they need to convince ppl to buy some stocks which they think would increase their commission in short-med run first. Then as per the justified valuations given, the ppl who buy top needs to hold on this as a long term investment so they point out the future value too.. So now u can understand that their primary motive is to sell stocks to their clients and the same time not getting blamed.

2) They do give about a time frame of 01 year period at least otherwise stated as short term. So within this period any person with less knowledge on market can even guess that with the growing economy of SL, good companies with a fair working capital could grow as well.

3) The recommendations were far less in number when the downturn began and one broker recommended DIMO around 1500 and also others recommend DIMO (about 1-2 months back) below 1400 but the valuations were done for a period of 1 year from the research date. So regardless of whether u bought DIMO in 1400-1600 category, still their valuations of DIMO reaching 2000 is in tact.

4) Normally in these reports future financials are estimated using various projection accounting techniques but the future is not a foreseeable entity. I have not seen in any report the relevant method is described though some facts as to why they think the company would perform in future too could be stated.

However its a good idea to read these reports to get educated how broker firms come into conclusions of companies' future and to have a second opinion on your investment decision. But dont 100% rely on these and invest without doing your own research.

We know what happened to a good company like BFL with continues QoQ - YoY earnings growth.. Their earnings were disappointing in last couple of qtrs and ppl felt bad so share price started to fall with the bear market. Again here I'm not saying BFL wont go but we need to understand certain companies have seasonal earnings as well. i.e - poultry, plantations sectors.

There are good research teams in our brokering houses, some are highly qualified, but the trend is that investment advisers dont recommend what researchers recommend , brokers only recommend what they collect and what are hot on a given day.. brokers are more speculative these days that some are more speculative than average retailers. So naturally customers ( ie u & me ) will more or less believe what broker says and will ignore the research reports , as we are dealing with brokers and we more or less trust broker rather than the unseen researcher. Sometimes the investment advisers dont know anything about what researchers recommend> we are dealing in market where no one give a damn about technicals or fundamentals , Only rumors and manipulation matters in this market , so best thing to do to WIN in this market is to get network with others, to be informed about the rumor befor it turn in to the news , get to know about the stock which is goin to be manipulated next rather than knowing it after it get manipulated , yes its highly unethical patter of trading , yet thats what we must do to survive in CSE . this is what i believe ....

25COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:31 pm

investor1984


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@windi5 wrote:
@Hawk Eye wrote:Then why did Dr.Senthivel disposed 1.1mn shares in aug 2011.

Good question, coz Dr.senthilverl is one of the mkt gurus.


Sometimes we bother too much about the activities of HNWI. Yes they are the movers and shakers of the market , but that doesnt make them GOD in this market, yes most of the times the shares they enter turn out to be the HOT counter, still sometimes they enter in big way those counters get no special attention , so we should not blindly jump in to what ever they buy or we should not dump what ever they sell . For example Nimal Perea is gradually exiting from VONE... but does that move of Nimal Perera , does his move make VONE a bad share??? Hell no.... may be they are exiting bcoz they might be investing in gold , may be they need some money to contribute to political party,may be they need money for their Daughter;s wedding .... We dont know what they are up to ... So we should not follow them too much, but we definitely should not ignore them too. Not every time HNWi entry add value to a company nor does it reduce a value of company , remember they are sometime buying a stake which sometimes doesnt even get them a director seat, so that person doesnt make any difference to the COMPANY ... remember SHARE doesnt matter , its the COMPANY thats matter .. Remember we invest in the COMPANY

26COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:07 pm

bakapandithaya

bakapandithaya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
I think not mow, want to wait sometime

27COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:03 pm

lamaya


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Hey.. investor1984 please let me knw some brokering houses, which posses good research teams...??

28COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:53 am

warren buff


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Some serious buying of COLO shares today, 278,300 shares crossed today at 480/= which one is smarter? the buyer or the seller?...this has always baffled me...does the buyer have any inside info that the market does not have ?or is the seller the smarter one who sees many other lucrative options, or is he simply booking profits,remember this share was trading for far less a price sometime ago.

29COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Still waiting for the Second rally Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:25 pm

bePositive

bePositive
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Many in this Forum predicted a second COLO rally. but did not happen, yet. Some said it will go high up as 600.any comments ?

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30COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:43 pm

bePositive

bePositive
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
what are the chances of COLO moving up in the near future.

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31COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:46 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert
second rally for what?

last ended rally 290Rs-500Rs,almost 72% increase,so what for second rally Rolling Eyes

32COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:46 pm

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Dear Friend, I have little doubt unless a manipulater come in to the field. If colo hit 600 DIMO worth more than 3000. But still trading around 1350/-Just check increase of sale value and EPS. DIMO is a giant compared to other motor companies.

33COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:58 pm

bakapandithaya

bakapandithaya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
I dont think so

34COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:19 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert
btw forget rallies
,COLO is keeping its ground at 450-500,its a big thing to me,bcoz many times shares loosing its value by around 20-40% after the rally over,but COLO sustains...
this is worth holding as relating to future growth,but better to careful of entering price.

35COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:00 am

Hawk Eye

Hawk Eye
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/111009/BusinessTimes/bt39.html : KIA Motors to invest Rs.1 billion in service facilities. In their balance sheet I dont find much cash for this investment. Will they go for a rights issue?

Is this behind all crossings, sellings and pumping:

36COLO - second rally  - Page 2 Empty Re: COLO - second rally Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:39 pm

wappula

wappula
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@bakapandithaya wrote:I dont think so

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