The forum has become a cesspool

Monster · 21 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:56 am

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@sapumal wrote:I can't think what Tubal need ?

0. Left fools who can identified from current membership of this forum
1. close the forum
2. close the cse which run on rumors
3. make a fundamental section for fundamentally members

This is a good idea sapumal. lol!

Tiger · 22 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:34 pm

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I have a suggestion, let the forum and its members not the moderators decide what is quality posts and what is junk.

To do that QB has to develop a mechanism allowing members to flag "JUNK" or 'UNJUNK" a particular topic or a massage ( don't mis understand this with rep points). After a particular post receives lets say 10 junk votes it should automatically transferred to a junk area of the forum, which would keep such posts without deleting. There by allowing all members to express there views and allowing members to keep the quality high.

Just my idea, other ideas are welcome. Idea

Slstock · 23 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:49 pm

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@Tiger wrote:I have a suggestion, let the forum and its members not the moderators decide what is quality posts and what is junk.

To do that QB has to develop a mechanism allowing members to flag "JUNK" or 'UNJUNK" a particular topic or a massage ( don't mis understand this with rep points). After a particular post receives lets say 10 junk votes it should automatically transferred to a junk area of the forum, which would keep such posts without deleting. There by allowing all members to express there views and allowing members to keep the quality high.

Just my idea, other ideas are welcome.

I like this idea if it possible by the techincal team.

Hoodinee · 24 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:53 pm

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Tubal,

First of thanks for the valuable info that you have been giving, looking forward to more in the future.

A forum is a place where anybody can say anything against or for, what you or anybody have said.

Ppl, will always have there own opinion on any post which they will also come out with, Or they may use the forum for there manipulative tactics. its up to the reader of ANY posts to decide which he wants to follow or not.

You speak as if this is the only online forum you are part of. this kinda thing happens all over. you get the nut cases and the genuine ones
This is the nature of any forum. you've got to get used to it.
Buckle up Tubal enjoy the crazy posts, and lets stick to the genuine ones....

Investor99 · 25 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:00 pm

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I agree with rijayasooriya if anyone wants leave this forum or CSE they should just leave. You don’t need to announce that you’re leaving and remove your account etc that very childish. I think this forum should be able to manage without guys who don’t have patience.

Stock trading is basically speculation and you need to have patience. Markets will not behave the way you and I prefer it to behave. In my opinion for one and half to two years CSE will provide above average returns but after that CSE will not provide about average returns as the market would mature. Also a fact to note is that currently there are a lot of investors driven by greed in the market but I hope by the end of next or the year after the greed driven investors will lose their money and leave the CSE for good. The chances of see stocks manipulated like today will also reduce.

Look at everything in a positive manner. If you leave you’re going to be the looser not the CSE or the HNWI or the manipulator or the broker. Think about it very well.

If anyone gives me a negative rep thanks. lol!

rijayasooriya · 26 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:02 pm

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@Tiger wrote:I have a suggestion, let the forum and its members not the moderators decide what is quality posts and what is junk.

To do that QB has to develop a mechanism allowing members to flag "JUNK" or 'UNJUNK" a particular topic or a massage ( don't mis understand this with rep points). After a particular post receives lets say 10 junk votes it should automatically transferred to a junk area of the forum, which would keep such posts without deleting. There by allowing all members to express there views and allowing members to keep the quality high.

Just my idea, other ideas are welcome.

But these voting systems can be manipulated like reputation system.Therefore after a post exceed the 10(or more) junk votes Adminstrator(hope she will decide unbiasly) or some group of expert should decide whether that post should be transferred to junk area.

tubal · 27 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:02 pm

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@Hoodinee wrote:Tubal,

First of thanks for the valuable info that you have been giving, looking forward to more in the future.

A forum is a place where anybody can say anything against or for, what you or anybody have said.

Ppl, will always have there own opinion on any post which they will also come out with, Or they may use the forum for there manipulative tactics. its up to the reader of ANY posts to decide which he wants to follow or not.

You speak as if this is the only online forum you are part of. this kinda thing happens all over. you get the nut cases and the genuine ones
This is the nature of any forum. you've got to get used to it.
Buckle up Tubal enjoy the crazy posts, and lets stick to the genuine ones....

While I was determined that there would be my last, i must clarify a few points.

First up, my post more than anything else is a public request for the admin to delete my account. I have made that request several times in private but not recieved the expected response. It's damn hard to get your account deleted on facebook but not impossible. Here it's impossible.

As for the reason for quitting, well there is an old saying if you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas. While it's true that there are a few people who are not flea infested mutts but sadly they are a minority.

As for being unfamiliar with how forums operate, well that drew a laugh. I've been around on usenet, used to be a frequent poster on soc.culture.sri-lanka newsgroup which I am sure that many here haven't even heard of.

So to recap: this post is nothing more than an attempt to compel the admin to take some action which she has so far failed to do which is: delete my account.

cse.profit · 28 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:10 pm

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@tubal- my friend this is what you get at the end after writing 1018 posts (mostly quality original work) and having 1608 points and 236 points. I remember few decades ago we did not had any active forum. few years ago we did have only very few 'Guru's in stock investment forums. I hope every one knows the other famous investment forum. Tubal YOU were among the top. I really do not wont to intervene in to this argument because now i don't give a damn to junk posts written by others...but i was very sad when i read the reply's thinking about what happened to a great person at the end. some people even tried to teach you about forum ethics..hehe... Nothing personal friends....

THIS IS A GOOD LESSON FOR ALL OF US....

tubal do not leave. just stay aside and watch the progress. This forum is a wonderful place thanks to the mods,quibit and other good members. just because few spoil it we cannot ignore the forum. I think quibit will take necessary actions to improve the quality of the posts. Tiger you gave an excellent suggestion. I would like to add a bit to that. yes members can decide what is junk and what is not. so we can have a counter like 10 clicks. It is been transferred to the junk box. we definitely need a moderator or Quibit it self , just to go through the post and to check whether it is rubbish or not. I think it will not take time to identify whether it is rubbish,junk or original or not. so rather than going away we should all get together with Quibit and try to improve the forum. To my experience and knowledge up to now this is the best forum in sri lanka regarding stocks and we should keep up the momentum.Just a suggestion. I am not a expert or a guru.Have written only 64 posts. Will miss your valuable ideas brother. But please do kit and monitor the forum and do come in a time where the fundamentals will have some value and speculators start bleeding. All the very best for your future endeavors. I know you since the era of investnow.lk and i know how much we are going to lose in to the future.
May god bless us.

sapumal · 29 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:14 pm

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@tubal wrote:
As for the reason for quitting, well there is an old saying if you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas.

Are we dogs ? It that your final conclusion Very Happy

We can get more information from this site rather invest blind or depend on brokers information.
Many people give good information which we can't find our self.

If all the people trying to leave the site we will loss something we received. There are people who get few/nothing but gives lot. There are such a members in this forum. If someone think that you belongs to that category please don't leave the forum.

I know that QB is extremely flexible Very Happy

. QB has made lot of sections ( market talks, expert chambers, ... ) . People can suggest what to improve while retaining all kind of investors.

sapumal · 30 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:18 pm

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Who bought big bunch of LOLF @12. Introduction price was 1.50 @ few weeks ago
Must be a great fool

Kithsiri · 31 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:46 pm

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If a few want to make this Forum a "Exclusive Members Only Country Club", then say so than beating around the busy.
Remember nobody is Indispensible !

laksharemk · 32 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:47 pm

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Dear tubal,

As a member with 1000+ posts i personally don't think naming the forum as a cesspool and indicating the members are bunch of dogs or leaving the forum are not good options for you, since it is the reality that we need to deal with all kinds of people with different views and different level of understanding.
Why don't you take the lead role of initiating some good discussions on current market situation, future, good shares and why those are good and so on to improve the quality of the forum and for the betterment of new comers. All members will be delighted to see these kind of posts from you specially during this difficult and confusing situation. Thanks for your good work.

Market Sucker · 33 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:42 pm

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@RIO wrote:

@smallville wrote:A forum cant stop all users from asking questions and putting lame posts. At some point we have to let things go but a mederation was done for some posts which've gone outta control

Tubal do not leave the forum....Just enjoy the bunch of jokers... I enjoy very much reading many postings of a particular stock....first appreciate , next crying foul play & then blaming Brokers, their mothers, SEC board, He , she. They & them...just for the foolishness of their own stupid purchases...

Smallvillie, No you moderators cant pass the ball to others...at least have any of you guys taken minimal action to stop/merger a duplicate post even...No you are not...!

Have you moderators banned any member for false info or likely manipulation attempt...No ...(Only such a thing was witnessed long ago by Mod Mark..but now he tooo silent)

I'm too worried over the things happening here ..few days back I took an offensive stepand tried hard to save the forum from damn idiots But unfortunately only Mod windi5 & slstock backed me on that endure...

Good luck to SLEF...let see what will happen...!

@tubal-dont leave man,ignore others and keep posting.......we need you rather than promoters..

@RIO-you got immense negatives for the reply ne scratch

,seems many buggers dont like the reality Mad

Academic · 34 Life is Better than Death. Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:52 pm

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Following is a famous poem by Anne Ranasighe titled PLEAD MERCY (sabbe sattha bhavanthu sukhi thattha). Seems it is relevant here.

We pass a bullock yoked to a cart
Straining uphill. He shivers
With effort, his bones
Protrude and the taut skin quivers
At each whip of the sharp-thorned stick

There is no expression on his face
Only his eyes plead mercy
Foam slavers from his lips
As he travails to increase his pace
And slips. My daughter asks
Does he think life is worth living?

I tell her what I know
Is not true, that life
Is always better than death.

She frowns
If there is a revolution, she says,
I’ll kill myself. All those horrible things
They do to people.

The bullock has fallen on the rough
Edge of the road. He tries,
But in spite of the stick he cannot rise.
Lord, have mercy on his eyes.
My daughter is just thirteen.

-Anne Ranasighe

Universalgoal · 35 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:55 pm

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Dear Dubal you have the master withing u , and u are being guided in every single moments of your life. think for yourself, and choose for yourself

ha_na · 36 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:35 pm

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@smallville wrote:

@RIO wrote:
Smallvillie, No you moderators cant pass the ball to others...at least have any of you guys taken minimal action to stop/merger a duplicate post even...No you are not...!

Have you moderators banned any member for false info or likely manipulation attempt...No ...(Only such a thing was witnessed long ago by Mod Mark..but now he tooo silent)

I'm too worried over the things happening here ..few days back I took an offensive stepand tried hard to save the forum from damn idiots But unfortunately only Mod windi5 & slstock backed me on that endure...

Good luck to SLEF...let see what will happen...!

Thank you.. I guess you've not seen posts merged on BLUE, EAST and stuff like that...

Ball passsing is SEC's game.. not our mods.. and We dont want to ban users all the time, rather most of these posts were removed, others were at least backed by some members with some facts.. There are techies, fundamental analysers, pattern readers and trend analysers in this forum.. Its not nice to remove posts just becuz its a pattern identification.. We do give the poster or any one to come up with proper reasoning..

We're watchin the new posts anyways..

If somebody doesn't like the way the forum behave why he is posting? if somebody looking at the market on pure fundamental basis and disgrace others as useless that is Hypocrisy. we need all the people - fundamental, technical, new comers, professionals specially the speculators. If anyone post something with any reasoning that should be tolerated. it is the responsibility of the reader to be aware the risk of trading/investing. BECAUSE IN TRADING NO ONE CAN PREDICT RELIABLY HOW MARKET BEHAVE 100% ACCURACY.

Antonym · 37 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:20 pm

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@tubal wrote:
As for the reason for quitting, well there is an old saying if you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas. While it's true that there are a few people who are not flea infested mutts but sadly they are a minority.

According to the Lalitavistara, "the spirit of the best of men is spotless, like the lotus in the muddy water which does not adhere to it."
tubal: Like it or not, this forum represents a fairly representative sample of CSE's retail investors. Therefore, it provides an opportunity to anticipate and understand market movements. You're my favourite Bear on this forum. So, hang around, Buddy; I think you'll soon get the opportunity to tell us, 'I told you so.' Smile

Rajaraam · 38 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:27 pm

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@Antonym wrote:

@tubal wrote:
As for the reason for quitting, well there is an old saying if you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas. While it's true that there are a few people who are not flea infested mutts but sadly they are a minority.

According to the Lalitavistara, "the spirit of the best of men is spotless, like the lotus in the muddy water which does not adhere to it."
tubal: Like it or not, this forum represents a fairly representative sample of CSE's retail investors. Therefore, it provides an opportunity to anticipate and understand market movements. You're my favourite Bear on this forum. So, hang around, Buddy; I think you'll soon get the opportunity to tell us, 'I told you so.'

Very nice Antonym, You are trying to convince tubal the reality. Thank you Friend for every thing you do to build up harmony among the members. Thank you Antonym.

Tiger · 39 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:08 pm

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@Kithsiri wrote:If a few want to make this Forum a "Exclusive Members Only Country Club", then say so than beating around the busy.
Remember nobody is Indispensible !

I am with you Kithsiri, nobody is indispensable. If we are loosing a really valuable member there will be big impact but to me there is no single valuable contributing member in this forum, may be there are many in the sidelines.

There is a good sinhala idiom called " where Gods don't set foot fools play"

lokuayya · 40 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:47 pm

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if we need to feel the pulse of the market all kind of posts are valuable.i do not see any reason to get upset when we see a post by some novice member.all are not experts.for example there are members as young as 19 years old.

this is a open public forum ,it is not a scientific journal or some thing like.this is a blog.write what you feel ,how you feel.
the experts ,researches etc can get lot of valuable information from these posts too, especially about crowd behavior etc.

Rajaraam · 41 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:12 pm

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Or ,Great lokuayya. You are very very correct. Absolutely you are trying to explain to an expert the value of a post of a junior or a senior even with two words to a real stock analyzer.

StocksWatch · 42 Re: The forum has become a cesspool Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:42 pm

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Dear friend tubal, I have to break my silence to make this humble request.

How valuable was your contribution to this forum, i think, is not a secret to many members here including the admin and the team. I personally consider you as one of the pillars of the sucess of this forum that it has managed to achieve so far and I am sure there will be some who deny that for none other than personal reasons. This is understandable as you have been openly cirtical on certain misconceptions held by some individuals and might have hurt them in doing so.

Your 1000 + posts (most of them containing original content expressing your genuine expert opinion on various aspects) provide enough evidence as to how you have been instrumental in making this forum meaningful especially at the early stages just after that previous forum closed-down and at a time most of the members who have critisized you in this thread were not even around.

It's true that the forum has changed a lot. This is not a surprise considering the staggering increase in the number of members and posts within this short duration. Back in Feb this year, when I joined the forum, if I remember correct there were only few hundred members which is now nearing 5000. When the sample size is bigger it becomes closer to the reality and today we experience that.

The reality is with the outstanding "post-war" performance of the CSE, every Tom, Dick and Harry started investing in stocks without even knowing the basics and the risks involved. And those same people coming to these forums and posting as if they know everything.

Just like many others including you have recently done, I also rarely make any posts nowadays. There is nothing against the forum but I hardly find any fruitful discussion that motivates me to participate. The vast majority is blind followers of rumors, tips, promoters etc. Talking about fundamentals can make the majority laugh and you may even be seen as retarded.

Last but not least, I know how much this forum is going to loose if we let you leave. So please reconsider your decision. Let's be oberservors and enjoy the show!!!

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