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Buyin shares on particular stocks means ur a shareholder in that particular share.. buyin these shares, straightly says u owe a company where ppl kill animals to earn..

what goes around comes around.. !!

who is with me ?? we re stil not late to make our mind.

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@chan5 wrote:
@rijayasooriya wrote:
@chan5 wrote:good argument brother,

but there are practical limitations...
meat or animal based foods are essential to maintain the quality of life,
specially the heam iron and certain vitamins like vitamin B12 and riboflavin.
also out of all 20 essential amino acids there are few ,can't get from any plant source, and which are essential to maintain a healthy life cycle.
specifically child bearing age females should have this in the time of conceive as its essential to build the nervous system fundamentals.unless the baby become an idiot with low iq.

so there are pro s and con s.
i'm looking at the world through science,
religions come next.

This is a very big misconception.There is no need to kill animals to get those vitamins.Milk products can provide all these vitamins which are not in plant source. Meat contains lot of harmful chemicals.So if u are a vegetarian it is a best and healthy life.



you become a fool if you are arguing without scientific facts,specially with somebody who knows than you. in that field. in stock trading it may be ok. but in scientific world it's not so. yes you can see thousands of articles in internet backed by vegans. but try to see is there any article praising being vegan in lancet, new England medical journal or PubMed.

milk producta contain casein and lactoglobulin. not heam irons or essential amino acids.Of the 22 standard amino acids, 8 are called essential amino acids because the human body cannot synthesize them from other compounds at the level needed for normal growth, so they must be obtained from food.4 exclusively from animal sources than milk.

thanks

Hey chan its always good if you can practice of respecting others. Nobody is perfect,all are human beings. this is a discussion session not blaming and shaming one.
What western scientists are doing,most of them are controlled by big drugs companies, still no cure for cancers and HIV. It seems that they are spreading diseases in hoping mkt their drugs,its one of big business in the world today.

@windi5 wrote:
@chan5 wrote:
@windi5 wrote:We got alternative sources for getting those vitamins, isnt it?. i have been vegetarian for 10 years, nothing happened to me but im very healthy and very relaxed. In countries like SL, we got plenty of options, variety of vegetables,it might be difficult for middle eastern countries as they have nothing but deserts. Now lots of foreigners going for vegetable leaving meats behind due to lots of fatal illnesses are associated with those meats for example obesity and cholesterol.

dear windi5.
if you are on any argument about stocks or investments i won't confront you.
but i think , that i have knowledge and the right to confront you as you are misleading people here.

1- you don't have any alternative source to get animal based amino acids. even in any preperation , it's still animal based.yes vitamin b complexes you can.but not heam iron.

2- I'm sorry to say i dont know your age, but being an vegetarian you have already loosen things that you even dont know.
if you had children then, already they are at risk of defective neural devolopment.
your sexual intimacy threshold had gone up so you may never feel the climax or rarely.
in a simplwe language its like driving a tata by believing it's a ferrari. you never know the difference until you feel it.

3.your argument is wrong sis, as non of these so called vegetable can't give so called components.
i can be more scientific , but then you wont undestand.
your explanations are like
Level I: Scientific evidence is lacking, of poor quality, or conflicting, such that the risk versus benefit balance cannot be assessed. Clinicians should help patients understand the uncertainty surrounding the clinical service.

4. obesity doesn't come from protein sis. ots the fat you use and carbohydrte you use and the exertion you put for your body. cholesterole is also the fats and that's found in animal foods i agree.
so do you know that how many pesticides, weedicides , litium, and toxins , and eggs of worms are coming with vegetable based foods.

5. foreigner do various things, not only being veg.some of them are not suitable to us.so thi,s is also one of them. they thought us to smoke, drink, and now to be veg. all in same account.........

6.if still you are so fascinated being veg...? sorry for you and please note that there were 76 vegetarians in my batch , and after 5 years of learning the count went to zero..


7.teach some biology for your children so they won't be so...............


no hard feelings and with all due respect

thanks

sorry for the late reply

I gave up meats when i was 16,now 26. Im not misleading ppl, i was elaborating my experience n my knowledge.

Human beings have not been born to live with eating meats. Animal based proteins, of course, are much more similar to our proteins . Plant proteins are somewhat compromised by their limitation of one or more amino acids. When we restore the relatively deficient amino acid in a plant protein, we get a response rate equivalent to animal proteins. Although protein is certainly an essential nutrient which plays many key roles in the way our bodies function, we do not need huge quantities of it. In reality, we need small amounts of protein. Only one calorie out of every ten we take in needs to come from protein.

It is very easy for a vegan diet to meet the recommendations for protein. Nearly all vegetables, beans, grains, nuts, and seeds contain some, and often much, protein.eggs, cow's milk, meat, and fish are high quality protein. This means that they have large amounts of all the essential amino acids. Soybeans, quinoa (a grain), and spinach also are considered high quality protein. Other protein sources of non-animal origin usually have all of the essential amino acids.the myth that meat is the only way to get high quality protein, in order to get enough protein without meat, considerable care is needed in choosing foods. Actually it is much easier than we think.

When we talk about iron ,dried beans and dark green leafy vegetables are especially good sources of iron, even better on a per calorie basis than meat. Iron absorption is increased markedly by eating foods containing vitamin C along with foods containing iron. Vegetarians do not have a higher incidence of iron deficiency than do meat eaters.Its true that Vegan diets only contain non-heme iron. Because of this, iron recommendations are higher for vegetarians than for non-vegetarians.vegan diet contains a form of iron that is not that well absorbed, vegans might be prone to developing iron deficiency anemia. However, surveys of vegans 2,3 have found that iron deficiency anemia is no more common among vegetarians than among the general population although vegans tend to have lower iron stores.Another reason for the satisfactory iron status of vegans is that vegan diets are high in vitamin C. Vitamin C acts to markedly increase absorption of non-heme iron. Adding a vitamin C source to a meal increases non-heme iron absorption up to six-fold which makes the absorption of non-heme iron as good or better than that of heme iron.

defective neural development,sexual intimacy, all these applies even to those who greedily eat meats.For my experience ,my climax is well in force.Im very active person.

Forefingers have understood the danger of having too much fat in their diet. which cause obesity and many other diseases,gradually they are becoming vegetarians. we trying those things when they give up understanding the risk maintaining those habits, drinking and smoking are two of them.

Its nice to see another medical student in this forum.

@ Windi

this is Plagiarism..

U can find many of the extracts form these sites

http://www.all-creatures.org/mfz/health-protein.html
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/iron.htm
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm
http://www.tcolincampbell.org/courses-resources/article/animal-vs-plant-protein/?tx_ttnews[backPid]=76&cHash=d5607d1968

U should at least give credit to the original author at least by quoting the site.



Last edited by mission on Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:19 pm; edited 1 time in total

And Please before talking of sins involving of investing in poultry stocks. first try to value humans for what they are irrespective of culture cast and creed then start thinking of animals.

and also who ever thinks that investing in poultry stocks is a sin please refrain from investing in the market. since u r indirectly contributing to all the other sins. direct or indirect a sin is a sin.

this topic is so futile.. y was this ever brought up.

@mission wrote:
@windi5 wrote:
@chan5 wrote:
@windi5 wrote:We got alternative sources for getting those vitamins, isnt it?. i have been vegetarian for 10 years, nothing happened to me but im very healthy and very relaxed. In countries like SL, we got plenty of options, variety of vegetables,it might be difficult for middle eastern countries as they have nothing but deserts. Now lots of foreigners going for vegetable leaving meats behind due to lots of fatal illnesses are associated with those meats for example obesity and cholesterol.

dear windi5.
if you are on any argument about stocks or investments i won't confront you.
but i think , that i have knowledge and the right to confront you as you are misleading people here.

1- you don't have any alternative source to get animal based amino acids. even in any preperation , it's still animal based.yes vitamin b complexes you can.but not heam iron.

2- I'm sorry to say i dont know your age, but being an vegetarian you have already loosen things that you even dont know.
if you had children then, already they are at risk of defective neural devolopment.
your sexual intimacy threshold had gone up so you may never feel the climax or rarely.
in a simplwe language its like driving a tata by believing it's a ferrari. you never know the difference until you feel it.

3.your argument is wrong sis, as non of these so called vegetable can't give so called components.
i can be more scientific , but then you wont undestand.
your explanations are like
Level I: Scientific evidence is lacking, of poor quality, or conflicting, such that the risk versus benefit balance cannot be assessed. Clinicians should help patients understand the uncertainty surrounding the clinical service.

4. obesity doesn't come from protein sis. ots the fat you use and carbohydrte you use and the exertion you put for your body. cholesterole is also the fats and that's found in animal foods i agree.
so do you know that how many pesticides, weedicides , litium, and toxins , and eggs of worms are coming with vegetable based foods.

5. foreigner do various things, not only being veg.some of them are not suitable to us.so thi,s is also one of them. they thought us to smoke, drink, and now to be veg. all in same account.........

6.if still you are so fascinated being veg...? sorry for you and please note that there were 76 vegetarians in my batch , and after 5 years of learning the count went to zero..


7.teach some biology for your children so they won't be so...............


no hard feelings and with all due respect

thanks

sorry for the late reply

I gave up meats when i was 16,now 26. Im not misleading ppl, i was elaborating my experience n my knowledge.

Human beings have not been born to live with eating meats. Animal based proteins, of course, are much more similar to our proteins . Plant proteins are somewhat compromised by their limitation of one or more amino acids. When we restore the relatively deficient amino acid in a plant protein, we get a response rate equivalent to animal proteins. Although protein is certainly an essential nutrient which plays many key roles in the way our bodies function, we do not need huge quantities of it. In reality, we need small amounts of protein. Only one calorie out of every ten we take in needs to come from protein.

It is very easy for a vegan diet to meet the recommendations for protein. Nearly all vegetables, beans, grains, nuts, and seeds contain some, and often much, protein.eggs, cow's milk, meat, and fish are high quality protein. This means that they have large amounts of all the essential amino acids. Soybeans, quinoa (a grain), and spinach also are considered high quality protein. Other protein sources of non-animal origin usually have all of the essential amino acids.the myth that meat is the only way to get high quality protein, in order to get enough protein without meat, considerable care is needed in choosing foods. Actually it is much easier than we think.

When we talk about iron ,dried beans and dark green leafy vegetables are especially good sources of iron, even better on a per calorie basis than meat. Iron absorption is increased markedly by eating foods containing vitamin C along with foods containing iron. Vegetarians do not have a higher incidence of iron deficiency than do meat eaters.Its true that Vegan diets only contain non-heme iron. Because of this, iron recommendations are higher for vegetarians than for non-vegetarians.vegan diet contains a form of iron that is not that well absorbed, vegans might be prone to developing iron deficiency anemia. However, surveys of vegans 2,3 have found that iron deficiency anemia is no more common among vegetarians than among the general population although vegans tend to have lower iron stores.Another reason for the satisfactory iron status of vegans is that vegan diets are high in vitamin C. Vitamin C acts to markedly increase absorption of non-heme iron. Adding a vitamin C source to a meal increases non-heme iron absorption up to six-fold which makes the absorption of non-heme iron as good or better than that of heme iron.

defective neural development,sexual intimacy, all these applies even to those who greedily eat meats.For my experience ,my climax is well in force.Im very active person.

Forefingers have understood the danger of having too much fat in their diet. which cause obesity and many other diseases,gradually they are becoming vegetarians. we trying those things when they give up understanding the risk maintaining those habits, drinking and smoking are two of them.

Its nice to see another medical student in this forum.

@ Windi

this is Plagiarism..

U can find many of the extracts form these sites

http://www.all-creatures.org/mfz/health-protein.html
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/iron.htm
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm
http://www.tcolincampbell.org/courses-resources/article/animal-vs-plant-protein/?tx_ttnews[backPid]=76&cHash=d5607d1968

U should at least give credit to the original author at least by quoting the site.
Its seems that you too have studied them,didnt you?. Hope you are clear about the point now. we have alternatives instead of going after meats. Not only about this topic,you can have extracts regarding anything in the internet. Its always good to study the topic and speak. I love you I love you I love you

[quote="Its seems that you too have studied them,didnt you?. Hope you are clear about the point now. we have alternatives instead of going after meats. Not only about this topic,you can have extracts regarding anything in the internet. Its always good to study the topic and speak. I love you I love you I love you [/quote]

Never mind U will never get it.. pointless talking about it. just forget it.

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Post Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:45 pm by chan5

@Think9 wrote:
meat or animal based foods are essential to maintain the quality of life,

i dont think so.. not an acceptable statement by any religion. also im may not know much abt scientific stuff but i know that the worlds oldest man is a vege .. Smile

i respect your view. i'm belonging to the religion "sciencism"
i agree the oldest man - you might be talking about homo hablis or or Australopithecus afarensis.

but when evolution from homo erectus is towards the carnivore, that's why still you have canine teeth........

so humans are omnivores scientifically ( eat animal and plant foods)

@rijayasooriya wrote:
@chan5 wrote:
@rijayasooriya wrote:
@chan5 wrote:good argument brother,

but there are practical limitations...
meat or animal based foods are essential to maintain the quality of life,
specially the heam iron and certain vitamins like vitamin B12 and riboflavin.
also out of all 20 essential amino acids there are few ,can't get from any plant source, and which are essential to maintain a healthy life cycle.
specifically child bearing age females should have this in the time of conceive as its essential to build the nervous system fundamentals.unless the baby become an idiot with low iq.

so there are pro s and con s.
i'm looking at the world through science,
religions come next.

This is a very big misconception.There is no need to kill animals to get those vitamins.Milk products can provide all these vitamins which are not in plant source. Meat contains lot of harmful chemicals.So if u are a vegetarian it is a best and healthy life.



you become a fool if you are arguing without scientific facts,specially with somebody who knows than you. in that field. in stock trading it may be ok. but in scientific world it's not so. yes you can see thousands of articles in internet backed by vegans. but try to see is there any article praising being vegan in lancet, new England medical journal or PubMed.

milk producta contain casein and lactoglobulin. not heam irons or essential amino acids.Of the 22 standard amino acids, 8 are called essential amino acids because the human body cannot synthesize them from other compounds at the level needed for normal growth, so they must be obtained from food.4 exclusively from animal sources than milk.

thanks

Sorry to tell u this but I have to tell this as 'u act like u know it all'.U seems to know something but u do not know everything.Do you know what is the importance of Heam Iron over the Iron ? If u know it I will tell u another fact.

Otherpoint is it seems that you think this western science is the truth.But do you know anything about quantum physics and what has happened to the Newton and to the some extent to Einstein with the discoveries in quantum physics ?

This part is for others,If u do not eat meat eat milk products and fresh green leafy vegetables u will not get anaemia or neral canal defect.Do not misguided by 'know it all's posts.

there's nothing called western science or western medicine. it's evidence based medicine and science. so i ithink i dont want to argue on heam iron with you.

quantum physics - irrelevant

This part is for others,If u do not eat meat eat milk products and fresh green leafy vegetables u will not get anaemia or neral canal defect.Do not misguided by 'know it all's posts.
i don't argue you brother. there's something wrong somewhere in our education system. we were never scientific enough as a nation.all sciences have been battered by religious views and culprits.a man should have a vision and religion.but try to be scientific too.i can give references for all my sayings in reputed journals.

let me put in this in simple way.
if you can find - please watch

prison break - us tele drama
batti or paba - sri lankan's at the same time frame

as both are produced for mass population of respective countries,
see how scientific their population by ,use of biological , chemical and physics applications.

i may sound silly, but seriously note it you will see the light.

no hard feelings
thanks

bePositive

Post Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:16 pm by bePositive

I am not a vegetarian. So as far as I am concerned, if I want to I will buy poultry stocks. Since these stocks are listed in CSE.

hmmm... seriously readin all the posts gave some good points..

true.. some say its not a sin eatin meat.. ( mayb true ). so say it is.. and another crowd say we re eatin meat so y would we invest on chicken stock.

y some think all negative ?? true even i eat meat stuff.. i really wanna stop it some day soon.. but just bcoz i eat i dont have to do more sins.. if i can stop investin thats one thing im doin good for animals.... if we b negative thinkin abt bad stuff we do, we will never b able to rise up as a man with a respect. and stoppin all the bad habbits cannt b done once. u ve to do step by step , and this s another step i ve taken..

mayb eatin doesnt give a correct answer whether its a sin or not. by investin!!! ( bng one of the owners of the company ) i think its a SIN..

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Post Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:57 pm by chan5

I gave up meats when i was 16,now 26. Im not misleading ppl, i was elaborating my experience n my knowledge.
friend,we call these evidences are class D. which are not reliable,at all.no querries about your 10 years, but the positive outcomes.

Human beings have not been born to live with eating meats. Animal based proteins, of course, are much more similar to our proteins . Plant proteins are somewhat compromised by their limitation of one or more amino acids. When we restore the relatively deficient amino acid in a plant protein, we get a response rate equivalent to animal proteins. Although protein is certainly an essential nutrient which plays many key roles in the way our bodies function, we do not need huge quantities of it. In reality, we need small amounts of protein. Only one calorie out of every ten we take in needs to come from protein.
read bold words, you see how non specific. underlined sentence is completely wrong, protein metabolism take place in starvation states.and the source is vegetarian website , so poor reliability.

It is very easy for a vegan diet to meet the recommendations for protein. Nearly all vegetables, beans, grains, nuts, and seeds contain some, and often much, protein.eggs, cow's milk, meat, and fish are high quality protein. This means that they have large amounts of all the essential amino acids. Soybeans, quinoa (a grain), and spinach also are considered high quality protein. Other protein sources of non-animal origin usually have all of the essential amino acids.the myth that meat is the only way to get high quality protein, in order to get enough protein without meat, considerable care is needed in choosing foods. Actually it is much easier than we think.
bold text - is it ?
and see the easy menu, it's so easy and can find in sri lanka..

When we talk about iron ,dried beans and dark green leafy vegetables are especially good sources of iron, even better on a per calorie basis than meat. Iron absorption is increased markedly by eating foods containing vitamin C along with foods containing iron. Vegetarians do not have a higher incidence of iron deficiency than do meat eaters.Its true that Vegan diets only contain non-heme iron. Because of this, iron recommendations are higher for vegetarians than for non-vegetarians.vegan diet contains a form of iron that is not that well absorbed, vegans might be prone to developing iron deficiency anemia. However, surveys of vegans 2,3 have found that iron deficiency anemia is no more common among vegetarians than among the general population although vegans tend to have lower iron stores.Another reason for the satisfactory iron status of vegans is that vegan diets are high in vitamin C. Vitamin C acts to markedly increase absorption of non-heme iron. Adding a vitamin C source to a meal increases non-heme iron absorption up to six-fold which makes the absorption of non-heme iron as good or better than that of heme iron.
vitamin c plays a synergistic effect on iron absorption - still it's questioning.so your text also say that heam iron is the best.and they haven't mentioned any research article.or link.

defective neural development,sexual intimacy, all these applies even to those who greedily eat meats.For my experience ,my climax is well in force.Im very active person.
applies - the percentage is more in vegans,thank god that you are active but usually vegans are zombies.and in case you dont know, please note these as well.
1-Weston A. Price Foundation-a vegetarian diet is far from ideal,strict vegetarianism (veganism) is detrimental to human health.
2-Stephen Byrnes, PhD, RNCP- "many of the vegetarian claims cannot be substantiated and some are simply false and dangerous.
3- H. Leon Abrams - "Humans have always been meat-eaters. The fact that no human society is entirely vegetarian, and those that are almost entirely vegetarian suffer from debilitated conditions of health, seems unequivocally to prove that a plant diet must be supplemented with at least a minimum amount of animal protein to sustain health.
4-in animal products you get saturated fats more - are required for the nervous system to function properly, and over half the fat in the brain is saturated. also help suppress inflammation. Finally, saturated animal fats carry the vital fat-soluble vitamins A, D and K2, which we we need in large amounts to be healthy.we have been consuming saturated fats from animals products, milk products and the tropical oils for thousands of years; it is the advent of modern processed vegetable oil that is associated with the epidemic of modern degenerative disease, not the consumption of saturated fats."


Its nice to see another medical student in this forum.
you are welcome.but what i feel is you are definitely not.
why.?
What western scientists are doing,most of them are controlled by big drugs companies, still no cure for cancers and HIV. It seems that they are spreading diseases in hoping mkt their drugs,its one of big business in the world today.
the bold letters at last , newer comes from a medical student. it's quite substandard knowledge if you are.and please note these nothing call cancer , that a misnomer(from hemophilia to meningioma) and refer to cluster of diseases and i'm not sure that what you are talking about.



any way as a foot note,
i'm learning stock market these days. i really take you as a serious member and i do follow your posts.and i have learned a lot. so thanks anyway.....

at last, one of my lawyer friend's saying.......
"newer argue with an expert witness at the court , eventhough you know how much about his subject.still he knows more and you could be wrong by some theory" - author unknown


happy trading , happy weekend


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Einstein, A., (1930), "Religion and Science", New York Times Magazine, November 9, pp. 1-4, Available at: http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einsci.htm [accessed on 24/09/2011 ].

@Academic wrote:
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Einstein, A., (1930), "Religion and Science", New York Times Magazine, November 9, pp. 1-4, Available at: http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einsci.htm [accessed on 24/09/2011 ].

Absolutely true. Some scientific evidence allowing non-veg in some religion;

1. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
2. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
3. Human beings can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food
4. Even plants have life
5. Even plants can feel pain
6. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime

I wanted to shorten the answer here with the intention of taking the audience read first. If you are interested to find more, please visit http://www.islambasics.com/view.php?bkID=154&chapter=1#q6

Very Interesting link & Thanks.

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah." [Al-Qur’an 5:3]

But what is the reason for forbidding PORK consumption is not clear to me?

@chan5 wrote:
I gave up meats when i was 16,now 26. Im not misleading ppl, i was elaborating my experience n my knowledge.
friend,we call these evidences are class D. which are not reliable,at all.no querries about your 10 years, but the positive outcomes.

Human beings have not been born to live with eating meats. Animal based proteins, of course, are much more similar to our proteins . Plant proteins are somewhat compromised by their limitation of one or more amino acids. When we restore the relatively deficient amino acid in a plant protein, we get a response rate equivalent to animal proteins. Although protein is certainly an essential nutrient which plays many key roles in the way our bodies function, we do not need huge quantities of it. In reality, we need small amounts of protein. Only one calorie out of every ten we take in needs to come from protein.
read bold words, you see how non specific. underlined sentence is completely wrong, protein metabolism take place in starvation states.and the source is vegetarian website , so poor reliability.

It is very easy for a vegan diet to meet the recommendations for protein. Nearly all vegetables, beans, grains, nuts, and seeds contain some, and often much, protein.eggs, cow's milk, meat, and fish are high quality protein. This means that they have large amounts of all the essential amino acids. Soybeans, quinoa (a grain), and spinach also are considered high quality protein. Other protein sources of non-animal origin usually have all of the essential amino acids.the myth that meat is the only way to get high quality protein, in order to get enough protein without meat, considerable care is needed in choosing foods. Actually it is much easier than we think.
bold text - is it ?
and see the easy menu, it's so easy and can find in sri lanka..

When we talk about iron ,dried beans and dark green leafy vegetables are especially good sources of iron, even better on a per calorie basis than meat. Iron absorption is increased markedly by eating foods containing vitamin C along with foods containing iron. Vegetarians do not have a higher incidence of iron deficiency than do meat eaters.Its true that Vegan diets only contain non-heme iron. Because of this, iron recommendations are higher for vegetarians than for non-vegetarians.vegan diet contains a form of iron that is not that well absorbed, vegans might be prone to developing iron deficiency anemia. However, surveys of vegans 2,3 have found that iron deficiency anemia is no more common among vegetarians than among the general population although vegans tend to have lower iron stores.Another reason for the satisfactory iron status of vegans is that vegan diets are high in vitamin C. Vitamin C acts to markedly increase absorption of non-heme iron. Adding a vitamin C source to a meal increases non-heme iron absorption up to six-fold which makes the absorption of non-heme iron as good or better than that of heme iron.
vitamin c plays a synergistic effect on iron absorption - still it's questioning.so your text also say that heam iron is the best.and they haven't mentioned any research article.or link.

defective neural development,sexual intimacy, all these applies even to those who greedily eat meats.For my experience ,my climax is well in force.Im very active person.
applies - the percentage is more in vegans,thank god that you are active but usually vegans are zombies.and in case you dont know, please note these as well.
1-Weston A. Price Foundation-a vegetarian diet is far from ideal,strict vegetarianism (veganism) is detrimental to human health.
2-Stephen Byrnes, PhD, RNCP- "many of the vegetarian claims cannot be substantiated and some are simply false and dangerous.
3- H. Leon Abrams - "Humans have always been meat-eaters. The fact that no human society is entirely vegetarian, and those that are almost entirely vegetarian suffer from debilitated conditions of health, seems unequivocally to prove that a plant diet must be supplemented with at least a minimum amount of animal protein to sustain health.
4-in animal products you get saturated fats more - are required for the nervous system to function properly, and over half the fat in the brain is saturated. also help suppress inflammation. Finally, saturated animal fats carry the vital fat-soluble vitamins A, D and K2, which we we need in large amounts to be healthy.we have been consuming saturated fats from animals products, milk products and the tropical oils for thousands of years; it is the advent of modern processed vegetable oil that is associated with the epidemic of modern degenerative disease, not the consumption of saturated fats."


Its nice to see another medical student in this forum.
you are welcome.but what i feel is you are definitely not.
why.?
What western scientists are doing,most of them are controlled by big drugs companies, still no cure for cancers and HIV. It seems that they are spreading diseases in hoping mkt their drugs,its one of big business in the world today.
the bold letters at last , newer comes from a medical student. it's quite substandard knowledge if you are.and please note these nothing call cancer , that a misnomer(from hemophilia to meningioma) and refer to cluster of diseases and i'm not sure that what you are talking about.



any way as a foot note,
i'm learning stock market these days. i really take you as a serious member and i do follow your posts.and i have learned a lot. so thanks anyway.....

at last, one of my lawyer friend's saying.......
"newer argue with an expert witness at the court , eventhough you know how much about his subject.still he knows more and you could be wrong by some theory" - author unknown


happy trading , happy weekend

Hee its a misunderstanding who said that i was a medical student. There were few,as i cn remember, in this forum, i meant them.

Still modern science is at a tender stage. modern science is unable to give answers for most of burning matters in the earth. Still doing researches,some times even using innocent animals.in the end,most of the time, these findings make those ppl and companies reach. If this modern science is capable of delivering best, we should have a healthy world but instead the situation is worsening bringing new kind of deceases or accelerating most of existing ones.

I wanted to say,still ppl are dieing from these deceases,caners and HIV, only thing modern science can do is controlling them but medicine are very expensive. where does these money go,to the pockets of drugs companies. Now even doctors dont have ethics,they also going after money.

Oh man, this quoting has become a real headache. Guys, shall we stop using this for readability sake? Use it only when it seriously requires to quote couple of lines.

@ninja wrote:
@Academic wrote:
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Einstein, A., (1930), "Religion and Science", New York Times Magazine, November 9, pp. 1-4, Available at: http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einsci.htm [accessed on 24/09/2011 ].

Absolutely true. Some scientific evidence allowing non-veg in some religion;

1. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
2. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
3. Human beings can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food
4. Even plants have life
5. Even plants can feel pain
6. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime

I wanted to shorten the answer here with the intention of taking the audience read first. If you are interested to find more, please visit http://www.islambasics.com/view.php?bkID=154&chapter=1#q6


There are ppl in some African countries who eat even human flesh. So those ppl might use their Omnivorous set of teeth to eat these flesh . everything has a beginning and an end between them an existence.life is not just a existence need consciousness as well. do we like our pets killed and served on the table, so we should have that mercy for all other animals as well.

@windi5: Why dont you stop quoting the same thing said in the previous post? Quoting has to be used judiciously as the case of our teeth set.
You didn't read the link I gave you as it has the answer to your question. Just quoting the important line but recomend you to read the entire thing for your understanding of this subject
"It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously"

@ninja wrote:@windi5: Why dont you stop quoting the same thing said in the previous post? Quoting has to be used judiciously as the case of our teeth set.
You didn't read the link I gave you as it has the answer to your question. Just quoting the important line but recomend you to read the entire thing for your understanding of this subject
"It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously"

Hey dear i read it, its your religious belief not a philosophy. It talks even about POLYGAMY. Very Happy

While its up to individuals to decide in which stocks to invest! some people avoid in investing some stocks for some reasons.

If we go that basis in really we can't invest in any stocks, here if you consider poultry stocks as bad, then you should avoid banking sector because they finance it, insurance because they insure these people, transport companies because they used to transport, power sectors because they supply electricity, super markets because they sell those, like the list will go on and go on, because in the world practically you can't isolated any business in the world

Kindly note this reply is not intended to hurt anybody's individual believe.

@ninja wrote: Some scientific evidence allowing non-veg in some religion;

1. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
2. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
3. Human beings can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food
4. Even plants have life
5. Even plants can feel pain
6. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime

I wanted to shorten the answer here with the intention of taking the audience read first. If you are interested to find more, please visit http://www.islambasics.com/view.php?bkID=154&chapter=1#q6


i'm not surprised at all. i expected this religious based explanations.
i don't know where do we go as a nation.

by the time of 2011 even, why still we don't have an insight to feel.
1-that all the religion leaders were good , different men. not gods
2-they tried to drive human civilization to good and peace.
3-at that time there were no developed science (evidence based)
4-so they put up various theories to explain the mass population, and are beyond simple truth.
5-even some, after the death of the leader
6-Philosophy of that great men is gone and rubbish is there now.
7-we don't share with poor but kill by halal,don't love the wife and talk against the abortion,talk abut animal killing but not minimising the harm.

anyway,,,,,,
see the world through scientific eye,
use religion as the second line
it's safe and sound. never change this order.
practice for 1 year and feel the difference

@Gaja wrote:While its up to individuals to decide in which stocks to invest! some people avoid in investing some stocks for some reasons.

If we go that basis in really we can't invest in any stocks, here if you consider poultry stocks as bad, then you should avoid banking sector because they finance it, insurance because they insure these people, transport companies because they used to transport, power sectors because they supply electricity, super markets because they sell those, like the list will go on and go on, because in the world practically you can't isolated any business in the world

Kindly note this reply is not intended to hurt anybody's individual believe.

Fully submit to the view expressed by Gaja.
On a side note, let me share the meaning of the word Hypocrisy..
"Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, ideals, thoughts, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

@chan
C'mon dear, u r better than this. See through a white glass what is said there. Its a religious site that I agree but the content is the key. If u disagree with the content, then tell that with evidence.
I was just showing non-veg is ok in scientific terms. See through on that context. Do not go after any religion/philosophy or even science too much. Too much makes us "panditheyo", that we try to avoid.

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Post Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:12 pm by chan5

@ninja wrote:@chan
C'mon dear, u r better than this. See through a white glass what is said there. Its a religious site that I agree but the content is the key. If u disagree with the content, then tell that with evidence.

ok sure i'll show the scientific explanation to all.As far as my knowledge.
and i,m quoting from the site you linked.
islam basics


11. Over population of cattle

If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.
there's nothing like that.any eco system has a maximum carrying capacity.wich is controlled by food demand by the next energy level of food chain.
source is primary class - science text book - grade 11 - biology unit 3




Cost of meat is reasonable since all aren’t non-vegetarians

I do not mind if some people are pure vegetarians. However they should not condemn non-vegetarians as ruthless. In fact if all Indians become non-vegetarians then the present non-vegetarians would be losers since the prices of meat would rise.
supply and demand ..? here are clever people than me who can explain on this ground.




question "Why do you slaughter the animal painfully by cutting the throat instead of the way we do with one stroke i.e. jhatka?"
The Muslim replied "We are brave and courageous and attack from the front.
do you think that killing a cow or pig needs such machoism..?



The blood has to be drained completely before the head is removed. The purpose is to drain out most of the blood which would serve as a good culture medium for micro organisms. The spinal cord must not be cut because the nerve fibres to the heart could be damaged during the process causing cardiac arrest, stagnating the blood in the blood vessels.
cardiac arrest occurs in loose of 30% of blood. so no point.
and nerve supply is not nessecery to function of heart as it's controlled by itself.nerve supply just maintain the rate.that's why you get people in coma state as their brain is dead but heart is functioning at a regular rate.



The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal struggles, writhers, shakes and kicks, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles defecient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body.
there's a thing cause ischemic pain(pain due to low blood supply) which is the worst you can imagine.the heart attack pain also the same type. ask somebody who had a heart attack and you realize that your book is wrong.it's an unpleasant, often excruciating pain associated with decreased blood flow caused by mechanical obstruction, constricting orthopedic casts, or insufficient blood flow
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/ischemic+pain



Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium,
hook worm- by penetrating your foot , not by food
pin worm - orally by any contaminated food are unhygienic practices, no pork thing
round worm -unhygienic water and foods, mainly unwashed vegetables.
there's a one called taenia saginata in beef also, so pork no safe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taenia_saginata






but the real issues are here,
in any ground i don't admit this filths


sorry - these texts were removed by myself(chan) as it was away from the topic and i don't want to confront religious views of Islam , "chan"



why can't you behave like a man and decide what you need.
why living by a book? which is historical and without update for 2011.


what i can say is, meet we can't omit from our food as it causes health hazards.
but i never admit the halal cruelty. at least give them a peaceful death...
on the name of any god.
THAT SCIENCE IS SOMETHING WHICH I NEVER HEARD OF,.........

no hard feelings,
thanks



Last edited by chan5 on Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:45 pm; edited 4 times in total (Reason for editing : removing the unrelated post)

@chan5 Ohhhh! hooow hoooow!, keep ur cool dear, that will make u clear. Be stick to the point and avoid nonsense. We are here having a discussion on having meet is scientific or not. Nothing else.

Will speak about the rest in another forum. Anyway, u r my good friend dear. I sincerely think so and I honestly believe we can be together though we have differences in our opinion. This makes our world beautiful.

Cheers Mate

@ninja wrote:@chan5 Ohhhh! hooow hoooow!, keep ur cool dear, that will make u clear. Be stick to the point and avoid nonsense. We are here having a discussion on having meet is scientific or not. Nothing else.

Will speak about the rest in another forum. Anyway, u r my good friend dear. I sincerely think so and I honestly believe we can be together though we have differences in our opinion. This makes our world beautiful.

Cheers Mate

clearly. i also wanted to stick to the point, but the page you linked had the topics i quoted about too..
so i had to quote them to show the reliability and science of your reference.
non of them are my words and please note all the phrases are extractions from above site.
those were below your reference so i just extracted them.

no hard feelings,at all.

so as you are friend.

think about this..
"Be an indipendant human, think scientifically, use your religion to fill the spaces.not to fill your life." learn every religion and get the best for your life.

and
Don't believe anything just because it was in a book,somebody told,you heard, or even if you see. just think in yourself and you decide,admit those only if you are satisfy with it.
- by lord buddha


didn't want to confront your religious views at all.

pls note that i'm not a buddhist

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