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FINANCIAL CHRONICLE™ » FINANCIAL CHRONICLE™ » Is this Crisis due to SEC’s Over Regulations or Illiquidity

Is this Crisis due to SEC’s Over Regulations or Illiquidity

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laka


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@bakapandithaya wrote:
I already read da article. u mean price band, credit clearance are favourable for cse. Then y foreigners are running out. Im sure these regulation reduced mkt manipulation & good 4 investors. But 4 da downtrend, SEC is responsible

Simply in last September they realized that cash position of mkt is not sufficient to face such
400% increased mkt capitalization.That's why they did like that since they are educated than u and me.Foreigners are running are running out because they know future is worse than present..
When you see foreign inflows of atleast Rs 2Bn , this is the time to buy...
IMO we need more than Rs 10Bn inflows



Last edited by laka on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:22 pm; edited 1 time in total

bakapandithaya


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@laka wrote:
@bakapandithaya wrote:
I already read da article. u mean price band, credit clearance are favourable for cse. Then y foreigners are running out. Im sure these regulation reduced mkt manipulation & good 4 investors. But 4 da downtrend, SEC is responsible

Simply in last September they realized that cash position of mkt is not sufficient to face such
400% increased mkt capitalization.That's why they did like that since they are educated than u and me.

they may b educated than u. i agree. How u say than me? Twisted Evil

laka


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@bakapandithaya wrote:

they may b educated than u. i agree. How u say than me? Twisted Evil

Sorry for making Judgment A Book By Its Cover.. Razz

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@kama wrote:
@kam2011 wrote:
kama,
That means my friend, You also believe ASI would come down to 5000 level and if foreign investment flow is not sufficient ASI would drop to 4000? In that case you all can become winners by selling you PF at your earliest. Why not you do that?

I don't like to realize my huge losses.Further I don't like day dreaming also..





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kama, Read following link. Is it not a day dreaming?


http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t7766-mori-is-it-valued-more-than-4000#5278

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@kama wrote:I wish we had rep system to give you + rep.

People like dindon, amilaela, rajaram, sanjaya351, bakapandithaya, krishanakash, and bla bla bla should read this without daydreaming...

Aah,Is that so? From when did you change your mind? Have you stop your promotion.
Read one of your posts which has a possibility to misguide small investors.Dont you think so?

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t7208-brwns-investments#49142



Last edited by Rajaraam on Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:31 pm; edited 1 time in total

Carolis


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@laka wrote:
@bakapandithaya wrote:

they may b educated than u. i agree. How u say than me? Twisted Evil

Sorry for making Judgment A Book By Its Cover.. Razz
Bakapandithaya knows all Smile

Trillionaire

Trillionaire
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Thank you very much! This is a totally worth reading article. It actually slightly changed the way I thought about the current market situation.
Your hard work and willingness to share is highly appreciated! Keep up the good work. Very Happy
Cheers!

sidath perera


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
problem is SL investors have a very short time investment time horizon, while funds have long term. When market is dominated by short term investors the long term investors tend to stay out until things settle down. The minimum time horizon of a long term investor is 3 years. No long term fund will invest in a market dominated and run by speculators.

I;m not saying speculators are not important, but they should not dominate the market.

I feel that no market can sustain a bull run over a longer period of time unless the funds come in. Otherwise we will be chasing rainbows like credit relaxation or removal of price band, all which will only give a temporary boast to market.

This is my humble opinion. Very Happy

seyon


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Hi laka

Thanks for sharing good informative thread, after some time i read whole discussion.

lokuayya


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Is there any way to find the ratio of net real money to virtual money in market appreciation or depreciation?I mean net real money inflow or outflow?
we only know the changes in market capitalization but the net real money involved is not known.
If we calculate in daily basis by summing up multiplication of volumes and net change of prices it is possible, but manually it is difficult.

laka

laka
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@lokuayya wrote:Is there any way to find the ratio of net real money to virtual money in market appreciation or depreciation?I mean net real money inflow or outflow?
we only know the changes in market capitalization but the net real money involved is not known.
If we calculate in daily basis by summing up multiplication of volumes and net change of prices it is possible, but manually it is difficult.

I don't know whether its possible what you said...

But if you have good connection with your broker, try to get the total cash deposit and withdrawals
of that broker firm during this year as a sample of overall market (But ur sample firm should be reputed firm). Then u will realize that there is outflow of money... Or just contact him and ask total Net foreign out flow for 2010 and 2011.

kama


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Rajaraam wrote:

Aah,Is that so? From when did you change your mind? Have you stop your promotion.
Read one of your posts which has a possibility to misguide small investors.Dont you think so?

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t7208-brwns-investments#49142

kama, Read following link. Is it not a day dreaming?

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t7766-mori-is-it-valued-more-than-4000#5278


Dr. Rajaraam.. Are they promotions? or Asking experts' opinions ?? better read again..
I am not daydreaming like you. Its true I have huge losses since I was in dark at that time.
You might feel them as promotion as you are begging others to buy saying "this is the last opportunity to by at cheap prices" hics..




Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@kama wrote:
@Rajaraam wrote:

Aah,Is that so? From when did you change your mind? Have you stop your promotion.
Read one of your posts which has a possibility to misguide small investors.Dont you think so?

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t7208-brwns-investments#49142

kama, Read following link. Is it not a day dreaming?

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t7766-mori-is-it-valued-more-than-4000#5278


Dr. Rajaraam.. Are they promotions? or Asking experts' opinions ?? better read again..





I am not daydreaming like you. Its true I have huge losses since I was in dark at that time.
You might feel them as promotion as you are begging others to buy saying "this is the last opportunity to by at cheap prices" hics..




Yes I read again. And found yourr following post. Before telling others to read topics see what you have posted to promote ppl to buy at very high price.

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t9118-kgalkeep-in-touch#61634

In that post you justify to buy Kegalle at 150/-



Last edited by Rajaraam on Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:37 pm; edited 1 time in total

Rajitha

Rajitha
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Thanks for posting something useful.
Have a look at this also! Not saying this report is correct but everything lies somewhere in between!
http://www.lbr.lk/fullstory.php?nid=201011181206341945

Also just FYI:- Most of your later statements Contradict what you have said at start! According to your 1st logic what we should do is let the blue chips fall way more so the PE ratios of these over values lot comes down a lot more making the shares attractive to foreigners! Very Happy

Also note that MPI=/ Blue chips! That is an out dated stupid generalization! MPI= liqquid share index!
BTW most of the blue chips are already way over valued than most of the illiquid shares! ( Read the link i gave) Take for example ALLI, DIMO, OFEQ! JKH on the other hand is way over valued even at current prices as their Earnings come from selling out there assets, not healthy earnings from operation!

Anyway one of the main reasons for this mess as you have touched upon is the less cash in flow and huge cash outflow mainly in the ways of huge IPOS and Right issues!!

PS:- BTW I believe that having to wait till ASI fall below or at 5000 level to get foreign inflow is the biggest retard thing i have ever heard in this forum! That logic says to get the ASI high a bit we have to let the ASI drop a huge amount! I hope you are not one of those guys who have sold every stock and waiting till ASI drop to these levles to collect! Because buddy, like it or after next few days aSI will be heading up at least towards 6500 mark!



Last edited by Rajitha on Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:49 am; edited 4 times in total

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Rajitha wrote:Thanks for posting something useful.
Buy have a look at this also! Not saying this report is correct ! But everything lies somewhere in between!
http://www.lbr.lk/fullstory.php?nid=201011181206341945

Also just FYI:- Most of your later statements Contradict what you have said at start! According to your 1st logic what we should do is let the clue chips fall way more so the PE ratios of these over values lot comes down a lot more making the shares attractive to foreigners! Very Happy

Also note that MPI=/ Blue chips! That is an out dated stupid generalization! MPI= liqquid share index!
BTW most of the blue chips are already way over valued than most of the illiquid shares! ( Read the link i gave) Take for example ALLI, DIMO, OFEQ! JKH on the other hand is way over valued even at current prices as their Earnings is from just selling out there assets not healthy earnings from operation!

Anyway one of the main reasons for this mess as you have touched upon is the less cash in flow and huge cash outflow mainly in the ways of huge IPOS and Right issues!!

PS:- BTW I believe that having to wait till ASI fall below or at 5000 level to get foreign inflow is the biggest retard thing i have ever heard in this forum! That logic says to get the ASI high a bit we have to let the ASI drop a huge amount! I hope you are not one of those guys who have sold every stock adn waiting till ASI drop to these levles to collect! Because budy you like it or after next few days aSI will be heading up at least towards 6500 mark!

I too fully agree with above points.

laka

laka
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@Rajitha wrote:

http://www.lbr.lk/fullstory.php?nid=201011181206341945


I wish this would happen... The market watchdog, the Securities and Exchange Com­mission (SEC), is also planning to introduce new rules on minimum public float to curb share price manipulation.

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