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Sasanka De Silva


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Daggers out again ? Rolling Eyes

traderathome


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
i am gonna stay far far away then......mang daru pal karaya Very Happy

traderathome


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
weradilawath pihi parak wedunoth ..... Razz

good night traders

see you on monday again.. Basketball

Slstock


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
For people with MAL/Plantation interests and Adults who behave like 5 year olds please read in this sequence. For short term people MAL has given lot of opportunities to trade. For others who bought at Rs 3.5 they are still with 40% profit to decide what to do ;-)

Posted when Mal was 3.4 to 3.5

1) http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t21855-malwatte-valley-plantation-scores-high?highlight=malwatte

2) http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t22643-topic

3) http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t23353-let-s-talk-about-maln#140564

4) http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t22982-i-enter-the-market-again-with-mal-and-aaf

5) http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t23048-malmal-winning-pick-in-plantation



The below is not meant to attack or degrade anyone.
But as a forum Admin ( for what ever it is worth) and a member who was here since the forum had less than 50 people , I expect people to follow forum etiquettes , respect others and not insult , and follow decorum to make this a good place for everyone to share ideas and opinions. No one is superior than other here. Unless they adjust we have to take action and some one has to .




New comers can be easily deceived by Smart Alec statement made by some parties who show up to the forum from time to time to show they are the greatest. But if one can attack others with false info and not heeding requests to stop this nuisance , they should also not mind if part of their history is known to the forum so all sides to stories are know by new comers. Fair is Fair.

Note below was said when KGAL was at true peak Rs 270-280s . KGAL is now Rs 110. If it was valued over Rs 270 is it not valued now at Rs 110 hmmm ? scratch What would be this gentleman approach now . Please enlighten us as it is nearly 3 times cheaper?

1)

@Rajitha wrote:
I never say future prices but as you asked and
have some Intel I would say by this Thursday it should pass Rs. 300. The
finical report is due to come on this Wednesday told by a Intel I
believe is true. From my estimates the quarterly earnings have to be at
least Rs 12. Also as the rubber prices are still hiking and hit a max
last month I would say by next quarterly they should produce a way
better result. this means I'm expecting the share price to pass rs
350-400 in 3 months time.
Ofc if they go for a split the price wil climb
a lot as at the moment the price of the share is a tad 2 high for the
retailers.
PLZ do your own study though this is in no way 100% garented stuff but analysis backed up my studies.



2)
@Rajitha wrote:

I didn't gave prices at certain times but I'm
saying now it will definitely have to pass Rs 300 by next quarter
reports!
This is considering there are at least some sort of basics
running this market except the manipulators and lambs who follow them!
Well I have not been wrong about something I posted so far so lets wait and see!

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t837-kgal-what-happening#4979


For years all seniors member of this forum was attacked.

This one is for your weekly entertainment . As you will note these "Senior member attacks" were there in the past . It appears now Small and myself is also dragged ;-). there are lot more who were attacked.

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t8199-kgal-interim-financial-statement-30-06-2011




Also see the below and deduce amazing predictions . I would not pass to read this thread people ;-)

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t14287p25-welcome-to-the-next-phase


Yes Rajitha my friend , if you keep not respecting others and insulting them, provide attacks without justice, not listen to repeated requests to stop this madness , I hope a taste of your own medicine might bring you down to earth ( but i doubt knowing how you act in the forum)

Anyway, all I request from you is to be decent, act as matured Adult, if you have valid argument present it without insult and in educated manner and help this forum to be a better place minus your slander. Please do not make this a paradise for you to stay away for months and only return to insult more when the fancy takes you conveniently forgetting your past.

As you know there are lot more skeletons in your past than above. Please let us not dig them okay to save my time and yourself. Please act smarter now and realiase we all are humans and make mistakes at some point. Don;t show you are the best by insulting others when you yourself have made grave mistakes. Thats all I request
Thank you.

smallville


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:
Note below was said when KGAL was at true peak Rs 270-280s . KGAL is now Rs 110. If it was valued over Rs 270 is it not valued now at Rs 110 hmmm ? scratch What would be this gentleman approach now . Please enlighten us as it is nearly 3 times cheaper?

1)

@Rajitha wrote:
I never say future prices but as you asked and
have some Intel I would say by this Thursday it should pass Rs. 300. The
finical report is due to come on this Wednesday told by a Intel I
believe is true. From my estimates the quarterly earnings have to be at
least Rs 12. Also as the rubber prices are still hiking and hit a max
last month I would say by next quarterly they should produce a way
better result. this means I'm expecting the share price to pass rs
350-400 in 3 months time.
Ofc if they go for a split the price wil climb
a lot as at the moment the price of the share is a tad 2 high for the
retailers.
PLZ do your own study though this is in no way 100% garented stuff but analysis backed up my studies.

OK now Rajitha's analysis implied him that KGAL had to pass 300 in short term (at that time) and in 3 months to pass 350-400 which he has amicably shared with the forum.
KGAL has eventaully reached all time high of 285.. So forum members were expected it reaching 300, 350.. lets not talk abt more than that.. So we hope that forum members will not moan as KGAL has fallen to 210, 180, 160, 140, 110, etc...

Now where has this intelligent analysis failed?

One could be an expert in the sector he/she talks abt, but should not overly carried away with few qtrs of good financials imo.. This provides another example of over-optimism of a forum member and broken promisses by KGAL.


2) http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t837-kgal-what-happening#4979

@Rajitha wrote:
@mjrocker wrote:Lots of people talked about kgal,nw its going down after massive profit will it continue going down like this,some people told it wil pass 400 nw going down,
will i exit frm kgal and enter to bfl?
I didn't gave prices at certain times but I'm saying now it will definitely have to pass Rs 300 by next quarter reports! This is considering there are at least some sort of basics running this market except the manipulators and lambs who follow them!
Well I have not been wrong about something I posted so far so lets wait and see!

Ohh.. yes.. who said Rajitha has given numbers.. This 350-400 was a figure by a person from Mulleriyawa or somewhere closer as my memory serves.. Soryy folks cant remember his name.. and the first quote it also nt from him.
Only Rajitha's analysis implied him that KGAL had to pass 300 in short term
Ahh.. This was said in February 2011


3) This was in August 2011..

@Rajitha wrote: What i posted even like a week ago was considering no addition of extra chargers like MAL did they should EPS of Rs 6.50 -8! In fact they have shown EPS towards the top end range of my expectations! So I'm quite happy with the results and so would anyone with a brain who knows anything about the industry! We will be able to see how the company keep performing here after the wage hike and I have quite a big faith in the company with the current rubber prices!
Hopefully for the next financial year the EPS would be Rs 20-30! which means a really undervalued company in CSE considering no wage hike for 2 more years!

PS:- You should actually praise people like me who rightly predict all reports beforehand as I did for DIMO KGAL and BFL among many others, compared with the retard lot here that keep on promoting same stocks with false numbers and theories!

We can precisely understand and respect for the fella who had quite big brains..

Here, I'm also stupid to think the ASI may not dip than 5000.. But I at least warned on the resistance and breaking of support.. Eventually ASI hit 4725 ;(

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t8199-kgal-interim-financial-statement-30-06-2011

@smallville wrote:Today's start could be an initiator of many things.. When u select the devil, make sure u select the known one.. Having said that dropping ASI below 5000 level is not an option in my view, so this could be <<<<< IT >>>>> IF 5800 could act as the ground level this upward momentum may continue if not we're in a sorry state..

Why all this??? There's a big resistance gap in 6500-6700 zone as I could see.. ASI can start to drop after touching 6500-6700 resistance zone trigger ring alarms.. Even there could be heavy vols and inadvertently u might think this is heavy buying too..

What I'd like to iterate is; there's a chance of ASI going up 10% or about 200-300 points in a short bull run.. But play wisely Wink

Welll... dont say we didnt say so... Selection is the vital aspect these days Wink

@slstock wrote:
Anyway, all I request from you is to be decent, act as matured Adult, if you have valid argument present it without insult and in educated manner and help this forum to be a better place minus your slander. Please do not make this a paradise for you to stay away for months and only return to insult more when the fancy takes you conveniently forgetting your past.

As you know there are lot more skeletons in your past than above. Please let us not dig them okay to save my time and yourself. Please act smarter now and realiase we all are humans and make mistakes at some point. Don;t show you are the best by insulting others when you yourself have made grave mistakes. Thats all I request
Thank you.

Sls.. we cannot expect such behaviour from a 5 year old adult Twisted Evil Why should you ask a podison to become a lokuson.. He'll mature with time... Only thing he expects is to remind his past as he forgets his own talk.
Now u know this is normally the expected behaviour of a 5 year old as they have a memory of a Goldfish, remember?

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
yes we all make mistakes as humans if we dont,then we are not who we are.

The Admins,Co Admins,Moderators all have been fantastic ...and very cordial with its members.

So we as members need to know where to draw the line,when it comes to insults,etc etc.

So lets forget all our pasts and concentrate on what is ahead ....

All are entitled to their opinion,but how we present it to others what matters at the end.

Arguments are healthy if its worth, if they turn into namecalling,insulting, then the purpose of it becomes an issue of ego.

Have great week-end

TAH

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@smallville wrote:
Sls.. we cannot expect such behaviour from a 5 year old adult Twisted Evil Why should you ask a podison to become a lokuson.. He'll mature with time... Only thing he expects is to remind his past as he forgets his own talk.
Now u know this is normally the expected behaviour of a 5 year old as they have a memory of a Goldfish, remember?


Well Rajitha said before he is a Teacher. As I and am sure you do too , have great respect for the Profession he needs to act and behave matured naturally. Why? He is passing on traits to students who might taken him as a role/ example. These behaviours of humiliating/insulting others and forgetting the past to his conveneince is certainly not what we expect the next generations to carry on.


BTW,
Am not sure what he has to say to people who followed his advice below on Dec 22nd 2011. ASI was 5900 then. We know happened after wards when it went to 4700.

@Rajitha wrote:
This time we will be able to observe
this upward momentum going towards at least hopefully towards mid
January! Please don't sell those shares you have at dirt cheap prices.
Also you like it or not the illiquids will have a nice run also as they
are trading now at really low prices!

PS :- This is not a
temporary upward momentum ( unless for some ground braking news)like
what happened at the start of the month! If you guys can remember I
predicted that it will go down after few 2-3 days and it did exactly
that!
SL and enjoy the show and plz don't flood the forum with 1000 posts promoting stocks!


Several people asked his view also after it went wrong. We know what happened to Rajitha afterwards.

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t14287p25-welcome-to-the-next-phase

Kithsiri

Kithsiri
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Any more time should not be wasted & I think we should give this also a GO now.
Have a great weekend. Very Happy

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@traderathome wrote:
Arguments are healthy if its worth, if they turn into namecalling,insulting, then the purpose of it becomes an issue of ego.

Have great week-end

TAH

As you can see TAH, all of us are doing a voluntary work and we dont want anyone to come and insult any of us.. I stand against insulting any of the members here.. I even did this for Rajitha when he was talking abt plantations and made some mistakes and many of the forum members opposed him...

I did this cuz, frankly there were something to think about his plantation stocks (as of that time) cuz those looked prominenet then and getting in and getting out had to be done by ourselves at correct times when he pointed out the potential. what I did was that.. I also backed him up with the valuations as I did and shared my own analysis.

I always welcome constructive critisism from anyone where any argument they lay should present with the proper backings. Not requesting us to go and read past posts and stuff.. This is clearly insane.. And somewhere these nonsense atatcks must stop..

SL.Market

SL.Market
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@SL.Market wrote:
@slstock wrote:The Malwatte Valley Plantation has established an all time record at
the public tea auction held on August 14,15 for BOPF grade tea from Uva
Highlands Estate. Managing Director Malwatte Valley Plantation W. L
Bogtstra said this surpassed the record price of Rs 930 for the same
grade established by Uva Highlands estate and it is for the second
consecutive week this company achieved this proud distinction.

The company has made a profit of Rs 216 million for the second
quarter ended June 30, 2012.

http://www.dailynews.lk/2012/08/24/bus07.asp

People will go behind the mal after up for sure...
they will not like to buy this level...
anyway thanks for sharing

Above post just less than two months ago

Our investors now are discussing about mal but we talk it when trading below 3.5 and valued it.

Rajitha

Rajitha
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

WO nice personal attack still much to learn you have afro
So you found some post where I did not had 100% correct prediction! Lol That also when I have less than 5-6 months experience in CSE. Also I posted about KGAL when it was around Rs 200! So u had time to take over Rs 85 of profits. Even after I made Rs 300 post, KGAL was around rs 250 and went up by Rs 35!
The difference is almost all posts SLstock made are double sided meaning posts and almost 95% and the rest are wrong predictions. You can bet if he say market will go up market will go down
lol! You are the guy who told people not to sell when market coming down from 7300s and when I said better to cash out and many people those days suffered! You were one of the chicken promoters who urged to buy chicken shares when they were at absolute peak. Told when TAFL was at rs 180 to it is very attractive and average! You should buy more . You were the guy as I saw almsot always wrong in this forum so when ever I make statement against you it is almost always right Very Happy

Also smallville an't you another chicken promoter ? I can never remember you ever making one correct prediction when it mattered! Also did you not say because of me you made good gains from KGAL ?

Also who the hell told I was a teacher Shocked
I have masters in Engineering from world class uni and atm in UK for another studying! you seriously think I will go be a teacher with those qualifications?

Also when I posted at start of year it did went up till stuid government went ahead and messed it up! People did had enough chances to cash out still! Also ant you guys o the same view those days Very Happy

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Great start to the weekend, the Professor vs ATM battle continues.

That too an ATM with a world class masters.

This truly is legend....wait for it.....dairy!!!!! An a.t.m with a world class masters. How can a local professor compete against an ATM?

Rajitha

Rajitha
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
BTW I did not see you give a proper answer SLstock but just insult me ! What is you answer to the people who bought MAL shares few weeks before because you told them its a great counter to buy few weeks ago! You telling them to go long term investing i bet lol!
Hi don;t forget your CDB promotion is reaping great benefits too! There is another tread with another guy asking for help from you promotions to buy few weeks ago!
While you dig deep trying to find old treads to attack me go and check yours few weeks ago and remember to advice them to hold for few years!

PS:- any dam share went up from 4.7k asi! as its near 20% upsurge. You don;t need a genius to predict a share that appreciates 30% when market also goes up 30% lol!

Sasanka De Silva

Sasanka De Silva
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Now I start wondering whether I should really be here or not, simply because now the topic is forgotten and the daggers are out in open and it has become a "Free for All".
Isn't it disappointing ? Embarassed

NEM

NEM
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
MAL is not a bad share at current price, but it is a plantation based company so there are a lot of variables, also they were having some management problems recently they were trying to go for a right issue to build a hotel in Maldives but that wasn't approved at the AGM. so share holders lost the reliability of the management and share price went down rapidly. But this share is very good at this price level. it can go to Rs 6 level at any time...

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Sasanka De Silva wrote:Now I start wondering whether I should really be here or not, simply because now the topic is forgotten and the daggers are out in open and it has become a "Free for All".
Isn't it disappointing ? Embarassed

No No No, it's Legend.....wait for it......Dairy!!!!!

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@ Rajitha


1)We made no personal attacks here. Just facts with
proof which is shown with quotes. How can it be personal if we quote your direct
saying ( also I did not pick
one or 2 words to my benefit) . Mind you , you started this
confrontation again in this thread. We did not. We replied your accusations with proof.


But this mud slinging simply have to stop Rajitha for forum sake. People like Tubal,
Mono, Innam, Econ etc etc all were slung mud by you. I can find so many other people and instances. When they replied with facts you
insulted them more. They came out stronger. Then when you cannot bear it
you leave the forum calling people Stupid, Retards, Idiots , Tiny brain
( do you need us to show you more proof? ) . We tolerated you as we felt you willl learn with time. After some time you come back and continue
your low game.

This has to stop. Do not insult people. If you have something to say, prove it with facts in a decent manner .Else just don;t comment. Like you made many mistakes , Yes we commented on GRAN when it was in the 160s. Not at the top when it was Rs 250. We never promoted. If we did show us with proof. Like your LDEV, KGAL and December illquids these shares also
dipped. We never said we are superior or always right. But you do.

According to you we cannot comment on any share, cannot say do not panic, have long term goals, have ethics. Just follow you is it?


Lot of people have asked not to argue with you as it is useless. I and
Small have defended you a lot over the last years while others despised you. I even wasted time with
PM conversation with you to make you see the reality ( that when others despised you).
I am now very
glad I don;t know you in life



If you do not like Long term , PE , PBV, have your strategy. We do not
object to that. But you do have no right insult other who do not follow your strategy .






2) Back to the topic : MAL

The original poster asked a question , Give you opinion if you are direct. Why attack others and evade the question? You did the same with CDB.

Did you alteast see the link I posted when we talked about MAL at Rs 3.4 . Some still ahve 40% profit. Did you do such service to the forum? I dont; know what MAL quarter results are but going with 2 Quarter PE , NAV , MAL is sill very undervalued to sector. What wrogn in sayign that? Who asked to buy or promoted.




Finally
Why don;t you post your finding and analysis without mud slinging others
. Someone even asked you before. Tell what counters you think are
good so other also benefit and their worth?




3)



@Rajitha wrote:

Also who the hell told I was a teacher Shocked I have masters in Engineering from world class uni and atm in UK for another studying! you seriously think I will go be a teacher with those qualifications?


So calling you a Teacher is beneath you is it? So are you not a Lecturer somewhere as you mentioned to member "MoneyMaker" in this forum sometime ago? Aren't Lecturers Teachers? Wow.

nkuda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Thanks to all who reply my post Very Happy , Thanks Rajitha also Smile

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@NEM wrote:MAL is not a bad share at current price, but it is a plantation based company so there are a lot of variables, also they were having some management problems recently they were trying to go for a right issue to build a hotel in Maldives but that wasn't approved at the AGM. so share holders lost the reliability of the management and share price went down rapidly. But this share is very good at this price level. it can go to Rs 6 level at any time...
forget about variables for me this one good to buy @ 4,30 @ sell around 7+ Very Happy

Good Luck study
TAH

nkuda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

forget about variables for me this one good to buy @ 4,30 @ sell around 7+ Very Happy

Good Luck study
TAH

Can U please explain this 4.30 level with a chart Smile

Sasanka De Silva

Sasanka De Silva
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@traderathome wrote: for me this one good to buy @ 4,30 @ sell around 7+ Very Happy
This optimisum is infectious Very Happy

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@nkuda wrote:

forget about variables for me this one good to buy @ 4,30 @ sell around 7+ Very Happy

Good Luck study
TAH

Can U please explain this 4.30 level with a chart Smile
the chart is on HPP thread Cool

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Sasanka De Silva wrote:
@traderathome wrote: for me this one good to buy @ 4,30 @ sell around 7+ Very Happy
This optimisum is infectious Very Happy
i would think so Wink

Backstage

Backstage
Moderator
Moderator
Ahh, I was eagerly reading the discussion about averaging and learning much when the bottles started flying, meka mara spot ekak. Sudden fist fight in the middle of a sophisticated discussion. Shocked
Now lets sweep the broken glass and pick up from where we left. Smile

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@Rajitha wrote:
WO nice personal attack still much to learn you have

Also smallville an't you another chicken promoter ?

I've no reason to promote chicken since it was done by MW... U also bought chicken odd lots while u were the anti chicken dude Laughing

@Rajitha wrote:
I can never remember you ever making one correct prediction when it mattered! Also did you not say because of me you made good gains from KGAL ?

I openly said becuz of u I had looked at plantations, but becuz of greedly I only looked at it in a broader way. Since u dont remember the past, greedy was the only one who showed the potential in KGAL with a good analysis when it was around 135. After his analysis this went up to 230s in a week's time.
For you, u only talked talked talked abt KGAL & NAMU with EPS and stuff, then u dragged ur father into this and told us u have first hand experience cuz ur father was a planter and had tea or rubber cultivation, bal bla bla.. but never came up with an analysis what so ever..
At those times when I did the analysis my own there were facts to believe that u could be also right regarding rubber prices and that's where I got into KGAL.

But ppl should be realistic and not dream the prices.. If I've kept my KGAL shares to reach 300 or 400 I'd been out of CSE with dismay now.. Laughing

I'm not the person who says I'm 100% correct on my predictions only to be deceived by a post went wrong Laughing as u could see we've given enuf examples of you being wrong so the question has to be returned to you..
BTW we dont have time here to bring all ur posts where u've gone wrong and present as evidence..

We only replied to what u've said as new comers also may read your posts should kow ur history.. They may think ur the guy cuz u talked high of you but in reality u were also proven wrong..
There are instances every one of us went gone wrong in the past.. So dont bark over wrong trees mate..

BTW, I'm curious.. Have u at least shared a single analysis with the forum members???

The only time u were correct imo was when OGL was pushed to 45 which u said when it was 35 "Funds pushing this to 45s"

Twisted Evil oops.. I gave some credit to you know Twisted Evil

@Rajitha wrote:
Also who the hell told I was a teacher Shocked
I have masters in Engineering from world class uni and atm in UK for another studying! you seriously think I will go be a teacher with those qualifications?

U were the one who told u were a lecturer.. Even at that time ur FB page had the same status. Who knows and cares if you switched jobs..
Sadly ur qualifications and attitude is the best example of an educated fool.. I dont go here and post I do have much better qualifications than you..
Things are now clear.. thanks. I can understand why ur so miserable..

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