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Arena


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Yep..........I agree some parts of the post.

After passing ASI 6500 it was abnormal kind of pattern. But that is the peak of any bull mkt. If u take other mkt cycles in the world u see a fast run at the end untill the bubble burst. At that time period Lot of IPOs come. Penny shares starting to shoe their col ours. SO it is called a bubble not manipulation.......And very common in any mkt including gold, US property, Dot com..............etc

For me ASI is value around 6500 at the movement and i can justify it with a simple valuation. When a run starts it will go to 8000 even and will come down..............

So what i say is there were manipulations in the mkt those are normal and even prevails in developed mkts. Eg...........SING from 150 - 1800...DPL to 140...Greg .................If u recall all most all the shares were overvalued at some point. ( JKH at 330 , SAMP at 550-600 )

In other Markets those are called overvalued stocks not manipulated stocks.
That is what my point is........

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Amal Mudunkotuwa wrote:Apple came to 558 from 705 with in 2 months. The most valuable company ( Apple ) volatility is very sharp.

So where is our Developed mkt Dreamers. This is the nature of the mkt.

The wrong word we used recently was the Market Manipulation in sri lanka.

I am wondering why no answer from AJ............

There is no point of blaming the result while the cause exists.Main cause of this always Suddas praising attitude come from our education system.It learns us about perfect hypothetical method not the really existing methods and also it gives hints that Sudda fellows are practicing those perfect method but in reality it is not so.....And also most of our people do not have experience about other countries actual situation.So they think those Suddas countries are perfect and our countries are really messy.And furthur to aggravate this mentality most of our so called educated lot are also blind to this actual situation and they do not want to enlighten public about actual situation as some of them(so called educated lot) are realy stuborn or some of them have been paid to keep their mouth shut or some of them also lives in that dreamy perfect world.

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
How do you call GRAN going from 61 to 274 and EPF buying millions of shares at 250+??

Overvalue or manipulation???

Every time Harry J buys a company, company share prices comes down, then Harry J collect as much as he wants, and offer a mandatory offer. Harry J becomes the major share holder...
it is contradicting economic theory of if somebody buy a company shares price will go up...

well I call it manipulation..

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
I would like to take another REAL example from this country

No manipulation at at present

But the stock market do NOT represent real situation in the economy

To my mind present level is direct result of past manipulations(from 2009 to2012 Augst)

Because investors have no confidence.

Most dangerous thing.is use of public funds to manipulate the market.

Recent decision to increase Public fund investment from 10% TO 20% also MAY BE TO START SECOND ROUND OF GOVT MANIPULATION

If that happen it may be REAL DISASTER in the long run




Arena


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@ whitebull

U are spot on. This is what i want to emphasize. Part of the Locals think this is the most corrupted and rubbish economy in the world. And some how prove their points with very small examples which are quite sensitive to the public.

@malanp

Yes it was a dangerous situation. Gran at 250is a disaster type buying done by EPF analysts. Bus Laugh at 48 will be justifiable in next 3-5 years for sure.

Gran


EPF holds gran from Rs 10................Their average value would be very low. they buy according to that valuation.I didnt calculate it....if some body can plz do it.

So u and i cant decide and justify your statement as a conclusion.

Harry J thing happens in any mkt. When WB wanted to buy Coca Cola shares at 1987 he did it with in very short period with no hesitation. And they buy when bear comes. I cant remember any situation where HJ bought a company recently.

@ D.G.Dayaratne [u]

I as a small analyst prefer if EPF and other local funds can buy following shares....

CSD Until 20 or 25
RICH till 12-14
SUN till 45-50
BFL till 250 ( Not sure )

And so many other....................Your country sold 40b worth shares to foreigners last 9 months.
So they need money and relaxation.

Dont follow political jokers who says manipulation when mkt goes and talks about innocent investors when mkt comes down. According to them mkt should be stagnated for ever and should follow theories. ...........

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Mr Mudunkotuwa Pl read my postings first I do no follow political Jokers.Intelligent people can understand what i say

Dr N.M Perera when he was answering a question by University student in early 1960s said

"I can answer your question But i can't give you intelligence"

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
but CSE up.

Arena


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
D.G.Dayaratne

What a good statement........Thanks for that first.

I didnt say it to you. but for the general 90% of the public follows.

At last u take all the manipulated labeled shares and gov. Institution involved shares as a % of the total transaction..............It is negligible.


Any way thanks for the participation and u all gave good comments with points..............

Mr. N.M IS pure theoretical no idea what marketing is...............u cant run a gov. with put a proper mkting plan at least to protect the power like Obama...........

TC

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
thanks

My effort is to discuss main problems with all of you for the benefit of all of us and the country

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