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FINANCIAL CHRONICLE™ » DAILY CHRONICLE™ » Sri Lankan maid Rizana Nafeek beheaded in Saudi Arabia

Sri Lankan maid Rizana Nafeek beheaded in Saudi Arabia

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smallville


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@Whitebull wrote:


I am posting this just to mention that muslims are also somewhat concerns about this incident,
Muslim Council of Sri Lanka expresses grief for Rizana’s death, requests copy of judicial proceedings.
The Muslim Council of Sri Lanka (MCSL) expressed their condolences for Saudi Arabia’s decision to execute Rizana Nafeek. The Council also expressed their shock at the failure of the infant’s parents for not pardoning Rizana, which is an option available to them under Islamic law and which is strong encouraged in the Quran.
The Council further accused the infant’s family for entrusting a minor (Rizana, at that time was 17 years of age) to take care of a four month old baby, which they described as ‘unfit’.
The MCSL also wished to appeal from Saudi Arabia to release a copy of the judicial proceedings for for Sri Lankan experts to study and advise all those seeking employment in Saudi Arabia to be well advised on how to avoid similar situations in the future.
The Muslim Council of Sri Lanka represents 102 Muslim organizations in the country
http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=21218

We all know islamic law is bit strict....I think Prime goal of that strictness is to impliment good discipline and
behaviour but some are using and change it egosticlly.If the muslims in a muslim country agree to follow their rule it is up to them to decide on it.As I also have mentioned in my earlier post if we do not like their laws we should not send our people to those countries.
Most importantly we should not make problem with our muslim community regarding this issue.We have just ended thirty year lasted war and still recovering from devastation.

Correct..
Discipline is a need, but Sharia law is too much.. However, we dont have a say when this law is considered the "Gods law" in these countries.

As Sri Lankans, we should, however, be more vigilant sending our ppl to these countries. There are plenty of examples they took us as second class;
Here we dont oppose following any religion but when ur in Arab countries, u cant practice Buddhism. One SL guy got caught worshiping budda and now he's in prison waiting for his sentence. U never know what would happen, it will not end with Rizana's case.
A rule like this is ridiculous, cuz everyone has a right to follow their own religion imo.

So the prudent thing is, as u also said, stop sending our ppl to these countries completely or limit as much as possible.
Its better to live in poverty than landing in an alien country and getting one's head lose.

Marketinvest


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Actually their are two sides to it. How will it feel for a mom to loose her 4 month old child. Unless we are facing the same situation Its difficult to give a view on it. Thats just my view only.

traderathome


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Marketinvest wrote:Actually their are two sides to it. How will it feel for a mom to loose her 4 month old child. Unless we are facing the same situation Its difficult to give a view on it. Thats just my view only.
with all due respect ...if she was so close to the child..will she leave it with a house maid to attend to..what was she doing all the while ....... Rolling Eyes

i can guess what she was up to....but since this is a public forum..i refrain from saying.....

i am so upset with my community....for not even standing in front of the embassy with placards to show our strongest protest.....

this double standard must stop.... Shocked

that way i am very proud as to how the sinhala community speaks against this with their heart-out ..thinking rizana is a one of them ....and not with any ulterior motive.

hats off to the leo club for building a house for her family.

but we lost an innocent girl........ Sad

TAH

traderathome


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
there are enough and more people to stone us embassy ....throw slippers or burn effigies/flags.....

i am not against the death penalty ...but against the lack of transparency in their judicial system...they should have the punishments as it is but the method must be their assure the innocents are spared.

the moderate people are silent..... pale

Jiggysaurus


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@traderathome wrote:

the moderate people are silent..... pale




Last edited by Monster on Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:16 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Comment is removed since it's insulting a community)

glwking

glwking
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@pathfinder wrote:what ever the law,what ever the religeon,see this brutal act,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B4ACG2Km34
First of all this footage is not Rizana's beheading. But anyhow we can assume, Rizana also beheaded in a similar way. However, we should note one thing. They have beheaded in public not to entertain the public. But others to discourage to do same crime. That's why countries in the Middle East has less crime compare to other countries.

I we don't discourage, we may hear many crime stories in the media. Husband may kill his wife and two kids and burn it. Boy friend may kill his girl friend near fort railway bridge. They know, they can escape from verdict. I strongly believe killing is ideal punishment murder, rape and drug trafficking.

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
looks like my comments have been censored/fatwa'd by a monster.

i'd like a second opinion by a universal moderator like smallville whether this monstorous censorship is justified or not.

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
my comments have been beheaded/censored by a monster (who seems to be a muslim).

i demand justice from the Admins/Universal Mods.

If unbiased mods like smallville/chinwi feel that my comments are unjustified i can live with their ruling but muslims like monster should not be allowed to censor this thread (that is like the CJ's mother giving a ruling on the CJ's case).

Sasanka De Silva

Sasanka De Silva
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@glwking wrote: That's why countries in the Middle East has less crime compare to other countries. Shocked
I wonder from where you got this assumption ?
I strongly believe killing is ideal punishment affraid murder, rape and drug trafficking.
Live in this Century and not in 15th century

Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Sasanka De Silva wrote:
@glwking wrote: That's why countries in the Middle East has less crime compare to other countries. Shocked
I wonder from where you got this assumption ?
I strongly believe killing is ideal punishment affraid murder, rape and drug trafficking.
Live in this Century and not in 15th century


Do you mean this century people are saints? All these happen in this century
Pls suggest your punishment for below, without suggesting our colonial master’s punishments.
1) People who cheat others
2) People who kill innocent foetus in their mother womb
3) Rapist
4) Who sells alcohol and destroy poor people finance and life
5) Killers
6) Business people who are not truth full to their customer
7) Who live on orphan wealth?
Cool MPs who are not serving people
9) Drug peddlers
10) Smugglers
11) Arm sellers
12) Thieves
13) People who grab others land and property
14) Men who cheat women

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
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රිසානා දැන් අප අතර නැත. සිය කැමැත්තෙන් හෝ අකැමැත්තෙක් ඇය දැන් මෙලොව හැර ගොසිනි. ජීවතුන් අතර සිටියදී ඇය වෙනුවෙන් නොතිබූ සහෝදරකම් දැන් ඇහැරී තිබේ. මෙතෙක් නොතිබූ දයාවක් සහ අනුකම්පාවක් මුළු මහත් ලෝකවාසීන් තුළම අෑ වෙනුවෙන් ඉපදී ඇතිවා විය හැකිය. කවුරුන් කෙසේ කීවත් රිසානාගෙන් ගිලිහුණු හුස්ම පොද වෙනුවෙන් හෙලූ සුසුම්, වැටුණු කඳුළු බොහොමයක් අව්‍යාජ මිනිස්කමේ ලකුණුය. බලය, ධනය සමඟ රිසානා වෙනුවෙන් යුක්තිය ඉටු කළ හැකි මිනිසුන් හෙලූ කිඹුල් කඳුළුත්, කිසිවක් කර කියාගත නොහැකිව ජනමාධ්‍යයෙන් රිසානා මිය ගිය බව අසා හැඬ­ූ­ මිනිසුන්ගේ කඳුළුත් අතර වෙනස ඇත්තේ එතැනය.


මේ වන විට රිසානාගේ මව සිය වැඩිමහල් දියණිය නැති සොවින් රෝගාතුරව සිටින්නීය. රිසානා මරා දමන විට රෝහල්ගතව ප්‍රතිකාර ලබමින් සිටි ඇගේ පියාටද හරි හැටි සුවයක් නැත. ශරීරයට වඩා ලෙඩ වී ඇත්තේ ඔවුන්ගේ හදවතය. තම දියණියගේ හිස කඳින් වෙන් කළ පුවත මවුපියන්ගේ හදවත් පළා දමන්නට ඇත. තම දරුවාගේ මිය යෑමට එක්තරා මවක් තවත් මවකගෙන් පළිගත්තේ රිසානාගේ හිස කඳින් වෙන් කිරීමට බල කිරීමෙනි. සියල්ල හමාර වූයේ රිසානාගේ හිස කඳින් වෙන් වී දැයි යන්න අපි නොදන්නෙමු. ශ්‍රී ලංකාවේ මුස්ලිම් කටයුතු පිළිබඳ ජනාධිපති උපදේශක ආචාර්ය එම්.ජී.එම්.එස්. සුර්ෆික් මහතා ඒ පිළිබඳ පවසන්නේ මෙසේය.


"රිසානා මැරුවේ කොහොමද කියලා ජාත්‍යන්තර මානව හිමිකම් ආයතනය මඟින් සොයා ගැනීමට අප ඉක්මනින් කටයුතු කළ යුතුයි. රිසානාගේ ගෙල සිරකර මැරුවාද? එල්ලා මැරුවාද? හිස ගසා දැමුවාද? යන්න අපි තවමත් දන්නේ නෑ. සාමාන්‍යයෙන් මුස්ලිම් නීතියට අනුව ණයක් ගත්තත් ඒ ණය ගන්න සහ ණය දෙන පුද්ගලයන් දෙදෙනා ඉදිරිපිට සාක්ෂිකරුවන් දෙදෙනකු සිටීම අනිවාර්යක්. රිසානා මරා දමන විට සාක්ෂිකරුවන් දෙදෙනකු සිටියාද යන්න සෞදි රජය ශ්‍රී ලංකාවට හෙළි කර නැහැ. සිටියා නම් ඒ කවුරුන්ද යන්න දැන ගැනීම ශ්‍රී ලංකාවේ අපට ඇති අයිතියක්"


රිසානා මිය ගිය පසු ඇගේ මරණය කළේ කෙසේද යන්න සොයා බැලීම නොවටිනේ යැයි ඇතැමෙකුට සිතිය හැකිය. නමුත්, මරණයකට සාධාරණය ඉෂ්ට කිරීමේ අයිතිය තවමත් අප අතින් ගිලිහී නොමැත. ඉන්දියාවේ සාහසිකයන් අතින් දූෂණය වී මියගිය නිර්භීතා සමස්ත ඉන්දියාවේම දියණියක වූවා මෙන් රිසානාද මේ වන විට ශ්‍රී ලංකාවේ දියණිය වී හමාරය. ඉතින්, ඇගේ මරණයටත් ඇගේ අසරණ මවුපියන්ගේ ජීවිතවලට සහනයක් ලබාදී ඇගේ අහිංසක ප්‍රාර්ථනාවලටත් යුක්තිය ඉටු කරදීම රටේම වගකීම වන්නේය.
ආචාර්ය සුර්ෆික් ඉදිරිපත් වී සිටින්නේ ශ්‍රී ලංකා මානව හිමිකම් කොමිසමට පැමිණිලි කොට රිසානාගේ මරණය ගැන පූර්ණ වාර්තාවක් සෞදි රජයෙන් ලබා ගැනීමටය.


හෙතෙම පවසන පරිදි 2005 රිසානා අතින් සෞදියේ කුඩා බිලිඳු දරුවකු මිය ගිය පුවත කනවැකීමත් සමඟ රිසානාගේ නිදහස වෙනුවෙන් ඔහු පෙනී සිට ඇත. සුර්ෆික් මහතා කලකට ඉහත ජපානයේ මැණික් ව්‍යාපාරිකයකු ලෙස කටයුතු කර ඇත්තෙකි. වර්තමානයේ හෙතෙම මුස්ලිම් කටයුතු සම්බන්ධයෙන් ජනාධිපති මහින්ද රාජපක්ෂ මහතාගේ උපදේශකයකු ලෙස කටයුතු කරයි.


සැවොම දන්නා පරිදි ඔහු පවසන්නේ ආරාබියේ නිවෙස්වල පවුලේ සාමාජිකයකු අතින් කිසිවක් නැති වූ විට එහි දඬුවම ලැබෙන්නේ නිවෙසේ මෙහෙකරුවා හෝ මෙහෙකාරියට බවයි. රිසානාට අත්වූයේද ඒ හා සමාන ඉරණමක් බව සුල්ෆික් මහතා අනාවරණය කරන්නේ මෙසේය.


"රිසානා අතින් වරදක් සිදු වූ බව දැනගත් මොහොතේ සිටම නිවෙසේ අයිතිකරුවන් ඇයට පහර දී තිබෙනවා. නිවෙසේ ස්වාමියා ඇයට පහර දී තිබෙන්නේ බඳ පටියකින්. පහරදීම කෙතරම් දරුණු එකක්ද කියනවා නම් රිසානාගේ නාසයෙන් ලේ එන්නට ඔවුන් පහර දී තිබුණා. රිසානා අහිංසක දැරිය පොලිසියට බැගෑපත් වී තිබෙන බව මා දන්නවා. අෑ වෙනුවෙන් ඒ මොහොතේ සිටම මෙරට බලධාරීන් කටයුතු කළ යුතු ක්‍රමවේදය ඉතා පැහැදිලි එකක්. ජිනීවාහි මානව හිමිකම් ප්‍රඥප්තියේ නීතියට අනුව කුමන සිදුවීමකදී කිසියම් රටකට අයත් පුද්ගලයකු විදේශයකදී සිරගත කරනු ලැබූ විට විදෙස් පොලිසියට බලපෑම් කළ යුත්තේ තම රටට අයත් තානාපති කාර්යාලය හරහා. රිසානා සම්බන්ධයෙන් මෙවන් සිදුවීමක් වූ විට පැනනැඟුණු පළමු ගැටලුව වූයේ ඇය ළමා මෙහෙකාරියක් වීම. රටේ බලධාරීන් පළමුව කළ යුතුව තිබුණේ 1988 දී උපන් ඇය 1982දී උපන්නේ නැති බව ඔප්පු කිරීම. නමුත් එසේ වූයේ නෑ. රිසානා වඩාත් හොඳට හැසිරවූ භාෂාව දෙමළ නමුත්, අෑ කියන දේ පරිවර්තනය කළේ මලයාලි පරිවර්තකයෙක්. ඔහුට හරිහැටි දෙමළ දන්නේ නෑ."


මේ කරුණු බොහොමයක් බොහෝ දෙනකු හොඳින් දන්නා දේ වන අතරම රිසානාගේ මරණයට තීන්දුව දුන් ඇය කිසිසේත්ම අමතක කළ නොහැකි ගැහැනියකි. ඇය ඔතාබිය. ඔතාබි නෝනා කුමන පන්නයේ ගැහැනියකද යන්න තෝරා බේරා ගත නොහැකි වුවත් ලොව බොහෝ මවුවරු රිසානා වෙනුවෙන් මේ මොහොතේද ඇයට ද්වේෂ කරන්නෝය. ඔතාබි අදහන දෙවියන් විසින්ම ඇයට දඬුවම් පමුණුවනු ලැබීමට ඔවුහු ප්‍රාර්ථනා කරන්නෝය. ලෙයට ලෙයෙන් පළි ගත් ඇගේ ලේ පිපාසය සන්සිඳුණා දැයි කිසිවකු ඇගෙන් ඇසුවා නම් වඩා හොඳය.


ආචාර්ය සුර්ෆික් මහතා කියන්නේ මවක ලෙස සෞදි නීතියට අනුව ඔතාබි නෝනා අපරාධ දෙකක් කොට ඇති බවය. එහි ප්‍රධානම අපරාධය වන්නේ තම කිරි දරුවාට මවුකිරි නොදී පැහැර හැරීමය. සෞදියේ දරුවකු වයස අවුරුදු දෙකක් වනතුරු බෝතලයෙන් කිරි පෙවීම තහනම් වන අතර මව විසින් දරුවාට කිරි දීම අනිවාර්යයක් බව සුර්ෆික් මහතා කියන්නේය. ඇය ඉතා මුරණ්ඩු ගැහැනියක නොවන්නට රිසානාගේ ඉරණම මීට වඩා හොඳ විදිහට විසඳෙන්නට තිබිණි.


2005 වර්ෂයේදී මෙම සිදුවීම් දාමය ඇරඹෙද්දීම ඇය බාල වයස්කාරියක බව සෞදියේ ශ්‍රී ලංකා තානාපතිවරයා ඔප්පු නොකළේ ඔහුට හැකියාව තිබියදී බව සුර්ෆික් මහතා චෝදනා කරයි. ඉන්පසු වරින් වර එළැඹි විවිධ අවස්ථාවලදී සෞදියේ ශ්‍රී ලංකා තානාපති කාර්යාලයට රිසානා සම්බන්ධ උසාවි කටයුතුවලට මැදිහත් වීමට හැකියාව තිබූ බව හෙතෙම පවසයි. රිසානා මරා දැමීමට නියමව තිබියදී ශ්‍රී ලංකා තානාපතිවරයා එතැනට යා යුතුම වුවත් එවන් යමක් සිදුවී නැත. සෞදි රජයෙන් ඇය මරා දැමීමට නියමිත වේලාව තානාපතිවරයාට නොපැවැසීමද කුතුහලය දනවන සිදුවීමකි.


වෛද්‍ය කිෆායා රියාද්හි ශ්‍රී ලාංකික වෛද්‍යවරියකි. රිසානා මරා දැමූ දින ඇය රියාද් සිට පැය හතරක කාලයක් ගෙවා උදෑසන අටට දවානිහි රිසානා සිටි බන්ධනාගාරයට ගියත් බන්ධනාගාර බලධාරීන් කියා තිබුණේ දහවල් ‍ෙදාළහට සිරකාරිය බැලිය හැකි බවය. නමුත්, වෛද්‍ය කිෆායා දහවල් ‍ෙදාළහට පැමිණෙන විට ඇයටද නොදන්වා රිසානා මරා දමා ඇති බව ඇයට දැනගන්නට ලැබිණි. මරා දැමීමට පෙර සිදුවූයේ කුමක්ද? රිසානා මිය යෑමට පෙර ඇගේ වෛද්‍ය වාර්තා කෙබඳුද? ඇයට පහර දුන්නේ නම් ඉන් තුවාල සිදු වුණේද යන්න පිළිබඳව මේ වනතුරුත් කිසිදු තොරතුරක් නැත. සෞදි විදේශ අමාත්‍යංශයෙන් නොහැකි වුවත් සෞදි තානාපති කාර්යාලය හරහා පොලිස් වාර්තා ලබා ගත හැකි බව සුල්ෆික් මහතා අනාවරණය කරයි.


වර්තමාන මානව ශිෂ්ටාචාරයේ සදාචාරය තුළ සිය අන්තිම කැමැත්ත නොවිමසා කිසිවෙකුට මරණ දඬුවම පැමිණවීම මානව අයිතීන් උල්ලංඝනය කිරීමක් ලෙස සැලැකේ. රිසානා මිය යෑමට පෙර අඩු තරමේ තම මවට දුරකතන ඇමැතුමක් ලබාදීමට හෝ ඇගේ පවුලට අෑ මරා දමන බව දැන්වීමට තබා රිසානා මියගිය පසු අෑ පාවිච්චි කළ බඩු බාහිරාදිය නිවැසියන්ට ලබා දීමටවත් සෞදි රජය කටයුතු කර නැත. ඉතා හොඳ ඉස්ලාම් භක්තිකයකු වන සුර්ෆික් මහතා පවසන්නේ මරණය ඉදිරියේ පුද්ගලයකුට සාහසික වීමට නබිතුමා පවසා නැති බවයි.


රිසානා මරා දැමීමට දිගින් දිගටම බලපෑම් කළ ඔතාබි නෝනාගේ හදවත ගලකටත් වඩා රළු පරළු වන්නට ඇති බව හෙතෙම කියයි. රිසානාගේ ලේ වන්දිය ලබා දීමටද සූදානම් බව පවසද්දීත් ඇය රිසානා මරා දැමීමට කටයුතු කළේ ඇගෙන් පළිගන්නටද? සිය දරුවා මියගිය වේදනාවටද? නැතිනම් වෙනත් කිසියම් දෙයක් රිසානාගේ මරණයත් සමඟ වැළලී යා යුතු යැයි අෑ සිතූ නිසාද යන්න පිළිබඳ සුර්ෆික් මහතා සැක පළ කරයි. කෙසේ නමුත්, හදවත මෙලෙක් නැති එවන් ගැහැනියකගේ සිතුවිලි වෙනස් කිරීමට ඇගේ යෙහෙළියක, ඇගේ ඥාතියකු මාර්ගයෙන් කටයුතු කළා නම් මෙය හොඳින් විසඳෙන්නට තිබූ බවද ඔහු කියයි.


විදේශ අමාත්‍ය රෝහිත බෝගොල්ලාගම මහතාගේ කාලයේ සිට රිසානා බේරා ගැනීමට විවිධ අය සෞදි යෑමට ඒමට වැය කළ මුදල සුළුපටු නොවන බව බොහෝ අය දනිති. දැන් ඒවායේ ගණන් - හිලව් විමසා පලක් නැත. කාන්තාවන් මැදපෙරදිග සේවයට ගොස් ජීවිතය අහිමි කරගෙන, දෑත්, දෙපා අහිමි කරගෙන සදාකාලික අබ්බගාතයන් වී මෙරටට ඒම රටට දැන් අලුත් කාරණයක් නොවේ.


සුර්ෆික් මහතා පවසන පරිදි සෞදි උසාවි කටයුතු පිළිබඳ පැහැදිලි වාර්තාවක්, රිසානාගේ බන්ධනාගාර ජීවිතය පිළිබඳ පොලිස් වාර්තාවක් ලබා ගැනීම හා රිසානා මරා දැමුවේ කෙසේද යන්න ඇගේ බඩු බාහිරාදිය අවසන් කැමැත්ත නොවිමසීම සම්බන්ධයෙන් ශ්‍රී ලංකා මානව හිමිකම් කොමිසම මඟින් විමසා බලා තොරතුරු අනාවරණය කිරීමට ඔහු මූලිකව කටයුතු කරන්නේය.


රිසානා වෙනුවෙන් ඇගේ මවුපියන්ට හා සහෝදරියන්ට නිවෙසක් ජනාධිපතිවරයා මඟින් ලබාදීමත් සෞදි රජුගේ සහායෙන් මුතූර් ප්‍රදේශය රිසානා වෙනුවෙන් දියුණු කිරීමටත් සුල්ෆික් මහතා අරමුණු කොට සිටී.


රටට මසුරන් පොදි ගෙන ඒමට තම සහෝදරියන්ගේ ජීවිතය යහපත් කිරීමට රට තුළ බලා සිටින සෑම ජාතියකම රිසානාලාගේ දුක්ඛිත බවින් බර වූ හිස් කඳින් වෙන් නොකිරීමට තවදුරටත් ඉඩ නොතිබේ නම් රිසානා වෙනුවෙන් විය යුතු සාධාරණය අනෙකක් නොවන බව වේදනාබරිත හදවතට වඩා හොඳින් දැනෙනු ඇත යන්න නිසැකය.


ශිවන්ති ප්‍රනාන්දු
http://www.mawbima.lk/86-12593-news-detail.html

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
If I read this correctly somewhere, the Saudi King had offered 3 million riyal to Rizana's "employer" in compensation to save Rizana ( which they declined).

Now it might be time to give some of the that money to Rizana's parents along with a sizable help from Sri Lankan government. ( did not hear yet they have not done anything to help the family) . This poor girl went to Saudi to help out her family and earn for a marriage. The least to be done is to help out her family in honor of her.


traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:If I read this correctly somewhere, the Saudi King had offered 3 million riyal to Rizana's "employer" in compensation to save Rizana ( which they declined).

Now it might be time to give some of the that money to Rizana's parents along with a sizable help from Sri Lankan government. ( did not hear yet they have not done anything to help the family) . This poor girl went to Saudi to help out her family and earn for a marriage. The least to be done is to help out her family in honor of her.


For us as Srilankans what is puzzling about the way in which the case was heard in that country. When can we expect these legal documents to be handed over to SL Govt. Why the body was buried there, when Rizana's Mother requested it. What the difference between That mother in Saudi and Rizanas Mother.

If Rizana is from US or UK.....things would have been different know Very Happy

There are grey areas in this case.

Will any of those from my community/ministers/ministries dare to speak against that country due to santosam they get... rabbit

Only the Sinhala community speaking out .....

Rizana has become the Daughter of Srilanka....what ever said and done....

I am ashamed of the double standard practiced by our community for not standing up to seek the truth that led to this suspicious death.

What is Muslim Religious affairs ....doing or ought to do... Neutral

Why the hell accepted the 1 million on behalf of Rizana Family, was it to hush up ....This is creating more suspicion......

The officials who accepted the cheque should be ashamed of......for putting a value on Rizana Twisted Evil

Rs. 1.000.000/Rs 35.000 approximate monthly earning (1.000 riyals)=approx 30 months (2 and Half years)

Rizana was 17years at that time ......(2005)
Executed (2013) 8 Years

does any 1 have clip on azath,rauf,azwer,rishard,moulana,fowzie or any eastern province ministers such as ataulah.....etc speaking against /demanding full enquiry from Saudi Govt over Rizana's death.

This should give a fair insight into our ministers mind set if they got one.....

Exclamation

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Saudi Arabia defied all international protests as well as outcry of Sri Lanka to release Rizana Nafeek and beheaded her last week. A sword-wielding executioner carried out the decree in Dawadami, near Riyadh; hours after the Saudi Interior Ministry endorsed the judgment against her

Who failed Rizana Nafeek is the question that usually follows the solace of remembering her. She was beheaded even after a one-hour long appeal was made to spare her life. Her plight is marred by the lackadaisical efforts, embassy policies and negligence to offer legal aid throughout her trial.

Rizana Nafeek was arrested in April 2005, but she had not been on death row for six years. It took the Saudi Judicial system abided by the strict Shariah law two years to make their case while our missions and the country remained passive.

Sri Lanka’s miserly support for migrant workers is reflected not only with Rizana’s case, but also with the increasing number of runaway maids and abuses that continue to date. According to a letter written by Rizana from the Dawadami prison on January 10, 2007 she had many problems at the home she was working in. “I am working here for one and half months. I have to cook, wash pots and pans as well as look after the babies, a boy aged four and a girl aged three,” she wrote pleading with her loved ones here “Please save my life”.

Rizana arrived in Saudi Arabia with falsified documents which showed her age as 20 though she was only 17. Holder of Sri Lanka Passport No.N0331835, Rizana worked as a maid in Riyadh at her sponsor, Naïf Jiziyan Khalaf Al-Otaibi’s residence, whose wife had a new-born baby boy.

While she was bottle-feeding the infant around noon on May 25, the baby boy started choking. Rizana’s statements reads: “When I was feeding the infant, I noticed milk was oozing through his mouth and nose. I stroked his throat gently and noticed his eyelids closing. I thought he was snoozing”.

The four-month-old boy died, but the cause of death remains unknown since no inquest was held. She was arrested by the Police the same day and it was reported she was forced to sign a confession.
Rizana’s story widely appeared in the papers later in 2007. Between 2005 and 2007 all lines of diplomacy and attempts to secure her release were blurred. Appeals at diplomatic level from Sri Lanka rarely affected the outcomes of the case and only the mission could render help.

During the two years Sri Lanka’s lackadaisical efforts to release her amounted to nothing. It was a crucial period for both her and the country but it slipped away. Saudi Arabians are hostile towards migrant workers and its legal system reflects that fact. Judicial proceedings were in Arabia and it was known that Rizana was not provided with an interpreter. Although the missions in Saudi Arabia were aware of the situation their policies disabled legal aid to migrant workers. Instead she had to appear in court with an Indian Malayaly interpreter. Malayalam and Tamil are two different languages.

Within this background, whether Sri Lanka did all her could to secure her release is debatable. We could have done a lot more. Rizana’s case went back and forth through the magistrate court, the court of cassation, the supreme judicial council and even through the Royal Court. At one point it was sent back to the magistrate court for clarifications.
Rizana appeared in court in February 2007. A three-member panel of judges from the Dawadami High Court headed by Chief Justice Abdullah Al-Rosaimi found her guilty of murdering the four-month-old infant and sentenced her to death on June 16, 2007. She appeared in courts again only in 2010. In the long interim, the absence of any support legal or otherwise for her barred the opportunity for a fair trial.

Her defense depended only on the Asian Human Rights who readied funds to pay blood money expecting the family of the deceased infant would pardon Rizana - something even GOSL didn’t come forward with. When the case was before the Royal Court, the parents of the deceased child and the Reconciliation Committee (RC) of the Riyadh governorate were requested to meet to reach an amicable settlement. It was reported that the mother was in great urgency to witness Rizana’s execution.

Rizana was on death row in June 2007 and sentenced in September 2010 by the Supreme Judicial Council. It was only in October 2010 that Sri Lanka fully intervened. But by that time, her prospect of being set free was substantially diminished.
As the significance of the case heightened in Sri Lanka the two foreign employment subagents who sent her abroad were sentenced to two years of rigorous imprisonment by the Colombo High Court and ordered each to pay Rs. 60,000 as compensation to her parents.

Last week the Supreme Judicial Council of Saudi Arabia informed Riyadh Governorate about the verdict making her execution imminent. President Mahinda Rajapaksa sent the second appeal on January 5 seeking her release. During the last few days, a delegation was being assembled including her parents to visit her. They had been waiting for her father to be discharged from the hospital where he was seeking treatment.

It’s appalling that her parents still reside in a makeshift home despite all the support rendered to their daughter. They are survivors of the 2004 Tsunami and deserve more.
All we can do now is to swallow our sorrow while looking at the grimy photocopied photo of Rizana. When she was killed she was only 24. “Inna Lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji’un” (We belong to Allah and to Him we return). May Allah SWT grant her Jannah and look over her family in this time of need.

Ode to Rizana Nafeek

Too little. Too late

Little one in adult clothing
Child-bound for years
Of waiting,
Beheaded by justice
That needs to grow up
Killed for a crime
You did not qualify to commit
For blames your child-ears never grasped,
You were robbed, child
First of childhood
Then of voice
But we waited
Since children should be seen,
Not heard
We didn’t hear your pleas.
We sat
We waited
We did too little.
Too late
And, you were still too little
at the end.

Sandra Mack

http://www.nation.lk/edition/news-features/item/14603-we-failed-you-rizana.html

Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
At the moment government and officials have four things to do
1)Help Rizana’s father to get permanent source of income
2)Ban Sri Lankan Sisters being employed in that province in Saudi Arabia
3)Work with Indonesia and the Philippines to ban employing anyone for Otabi family
4)Uplift the living conditions of millions of people from point Pedro to devundara

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Hanoifortune wrote:At the moment government and officials have four things to do
1)Help Rizana’s father to get permanent source of income
2)Ban Sri Lankan Sisters being employed in that province in Saudi Arabia
3)Work with Indonesia and the Philippines to ban employing anyone for Otabi family
4)Uplift the living conditions of millions of people from point Pedro to devundara
I heard the father passed away........is it a rumour Hanoi can you verify it from muslim friends.. if you have access....

Thanks
TAH

Kithsiri

Kithsiri
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Hanoifortune wrote:
3)Work with Indonesia and the Philippines to ban employing anyone for Otabi family
This is not a bad suggestion.
SLBFE should maintain a Banned List of employers who have ill treated workers but not only maids in particular.
Arabs are so proud of their Tribes and when one does wrong and if the whole tribe (because of the family name) get to bear the cross, then they will think twice as to what should be done with the bad apples among them.
This "Banned List" has to be done collectively as many workers come from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Indonesia and Philippines to name a few countries in the region.

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
I agree.

For point 3: Did Indonesia and Philippines get involved in this ? Am just asking.

I understand if this child murder truly happened ( but logical facts certain appear not ) a Mothers feelings. But after many years to still have vengeance in heart to not to forgive ( To K'ill) even after an offer to help the woman's other child who is sick in turn of Rizana's freedom , speaks of this Otabi Woman. I presume she must been hardly educated to start with.
Every country should give publicity never to work for this family or that province that gave the ruling in the first place. ever again to start with.

No what happened happened. Shameful or not.

As I try to respect Laws of religions I am not going to talk about Sharia. When we enter a country like Saudi the laws of that land apply. Whose responsibility is to make known those things to the uneducated poor people who go there for Driving and as housemaids. I think it is the duty of the agencies,Immigration / Foreign Labour dept to make aware.

For political reasons I doubt Sri Lanka is going to ban anyone going to Saudi. But atleast try to find other options for the poor, improve the lively hood of Sri Lankans, and atleast do what you can politicos. WAKE UP.
Atleast what about education and an insurance scheme for the unimaginable. Heard there are 4 more sri lankans in Saudi custofy( don't know for what they are held)


@Hanoifortune wrote:At the moment government and officials have four things to do
1)Help Rizana’s father to get permanent source of income
2)Ban Sri Lankan Sisters being employed in that province in Saudi Arabia
3)Work with Indonesia and the Philippines to ban employing anyone for Otabi family
4)Uplift the living conditions of millions of people from point Pedro to devundara

Kithsiri

Kithsiri
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
I know you cannot put a Price Tag for loses and sorrows.
But the real meaning of having "Blood Money" payment in place is to ensure the well being of the dependants of the family, if something happened to the breadwinner of that family.
In that context, I can understand the thinking of that dreadful Saudi woman but what I am unable to comprehend is how can someone hold the anger for so long.
I am sure she has already gone many times where Rizana has been dispatched, simple holding a vengeance to see Blood for Blood in return.

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Anger is part of their culture

As far as i know Kuran permit to kill who do not believe their Religion

Pl correct me if i am wrong

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@D.G.Dayaratne wrote:Anger is part of their culture

As far as i know Kuran permit to kill who do not believe their Religion

Pl correct me if i am wrong
Point 1: Does the Quran instruct Muslims to kill Non-Muslims?
Significance of the definite article "Al" (i.e., "the")
A friend of mine once told me that the Quran instructs Muslims to kill all Infidels. I agreed with him that violent interpretations of the Quran exist and permeate many of our Islamic books. My friend then quoted the following 3 verses to prove his point.

Quran: {The infidels are your sworn enemies Sura 4:101}
Quran {Prophet, make war on the infidels Sura 66: 9}
Quran {Never be a helper to the disbelievers Sura 28:86}
I thanked my friend for making this point as well as indicating these verses, and then responded as follows:

Comments:
Clearly, the above verses can incite much animosity and subsequent violence vis-a-vis all non-Muslims. Accepted literally - and uncritically - these verses lend themselves to the unjust persecution of otherwise innocent people, whose only crime is being non-Muslim. However, a pivotal matter of linguistic importance is often overlooked: the significance and usage of the definite article, "al" (i.e., "the"), which precedes the various disparaging Arabic words - kafirun, mushrikun - that describe non-believers in the Quran and which are often translated as "non-believers," "infidels," "idolaters," or "polytheists." Furthermore, in Arabic, the definite article is physically attached to the word it describes.

See below:

Quran: {The infidels are your sworn enemies Sura 4:101}
Quran {Prophet, make war on the infidels Sura 66: 9
Quran {Never be a helper to the disbelievers Sura 28:86}
The exact Arabic expression in these verses - indeed, in every verse that talks of the non-believer - is "Al-Kaferrin" or "Al-la-dhina Kafaru." The use of "Al-" or "Al-la-dhina" limits the verse (and thus commandment) to 1) a specific time and place in historyand 2) a specific group of people who were obstacles to the establishment of Islam in its nascent phase. It is these two factors that caused these verses to be revealed. Had the intentions of the Quran been to extend the application of these verses in perpetuity, it would have used the expression "Man Kafar," rather than "Al-Kafereen" or "Al-La-dhina Kafaru". The former, "Man Kafar," literally means any one who does not believe in God; while the latter, "Al-Kafereen," - the infidels - denotes a specific group of people: they who fought Prophet Mohamed in the early stages of Islam.

Moreover, the overriding principle which must ultimately guide our understanding of these verses is the constant Quranic reminder that good Muslims do not initiate violence against others so long as the latter do not provoke hostilities.

Quran 2:190 Fight in the cause of God those who start fighting you, but do not transgress limits (or start the attack); for God loveth not transgressors.

Indeed, according to other verses, even if a Muslim deemed someone an infidel, according to the Quran, he is still obligated to:

1. Behave with courtesy :
Consider, for instance, the following verse, which is supposed to instruct Muslims as to how they should deal with non-Muslims in the midst of hostilities (such as war): 9:6 And if any of the Idolatries (who are fighting you) seeks thy protection, grant him protection, so that he might [be able to] hear the word of God [from thee]; and thereupon convey him to a place where he can feel secure:
If Muslims are to behave with such clemency and magnanimity vis-a-vis the infidel during times of war and conflict, how much more should be expected of their interactions with non-Muslims during times of peace?

2. Respect his freedom of choice to be a "Disbeliever" - as this is a right bestowed upon humanity by God:
Quran 18:29 proclaims, "The truth is from your Lord": it is the free will of any person to believe (in God) or to be an Infidel (Un believer).

3. Even if a Muslim should be convinced that someone is a non-believer, still he must accept that his fate is in the hands of God alone, since no one human can condemn another - this must be left to the judgment of God.
Quran 88:25-26 for behold, unto (ONLY) Us (means God) will be their return, Then it will be for (ONLY) Us to Judge (humans).
22:17 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians (can mean an ancient religion or people with no specific religion), Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God (alone) is witness of all things.

The significance of the definite article ("al") or the substantive pronoun ("al-la dhina") which confines the aforementioned verses to a specific time and place - that is, the past, history - as well as against a specific people (i.e., the polytheists of the Arabian peninsula), is also key to understanding those many other verses that are often cited to incite violence against non-Muslims:
1- The infidels are your sworn enemies Sura 4:101
2- Make war on The infidels who dwell around you Sura 9:123
3- When you meet The Infidels in the battlefield, strike off their heads Sura 47:4
4- Mohamed is Alla's apostale. Those who follow him are ruthless to The infidels Sura 48:29
5- Prophet, make war on The infidels Sura 66: 9
6- Never be a helper to The disbelievers Sura 28:86
7- Kill The disbelievers wherever we find them (Sura 2:191)
8- 9:29 [And] fight against those (Al-La-Zina) who - despite having been vouchsafed revelation [aforetime] [40] -do not [truly] believe either in God or the Last Day, and do not consider forbidden that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, [41] and do not follow the religion of truth [which God has enjoined upon them] [42] till they [agree to] pay the exemption tax with a willing hand, after having been humbled [in war]. [43]
9- 47:4 Therefore, when you meet The infidels (unbelievers), [4] smite their necks until you overcome them fully, and then tighten their bonds; [5] but thereafter [set them free,] either by an act of grace or against ransom, so that the burden of war may be lifted: [6]

Kithsiri

Kithsiri
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Sadly I am unable to understand their logic.
If the Book also says "If you kill a man (human being), you killed the Mankind" then which one is right ? Embarassed
If modification to the creation is forbidden then why they go and get their foreskin removed ? Very Happy

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Kithsiri wrote:Sadly I am unable to understand their logic.
If the Book also says "If you kill a man (human being), you killed the Mankind" then which one is right ? Embarassed
If modification to the creation is forbidden then why they go and get their foreskin removed ? Very Happy



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Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
You cannot expect a slight kindness from these women. Even after a lifetime they will be the same with same hatred and vengeance mind-set.

They have been raised in completely different environment, socially and religiously which we cannot even imagine.

There is a big misunderstanding among both Sinhalese and Muslims in our country (those who have had no first hand Saudi experience) about Arabs and their resemblance with our local Muslim community.

To Arabs (except grown outside), you are just a paid slave from a poor tribe. What you believe is not their concern. For them, all are workers or slaves created by God for them. I cannot say they are bad. That is what they know. Most of those women have no idea about any human and/or human behavior outside their cult formation.

We cannot expect “logical thinking” or even “thinking” from 99% of them. Those terms are not in their Universe.

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Once again censorship by Monsters. This is how this cult hides the truth....why are true comments being censored on a Sri-Lankan website?

This Monster is turning this into a Saudi Equity Forum.

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Jiggysaurus wrote:Once again censorship by Monsters. This is how this cult hides the truth....why are true comments being censored on a Sri-Lankan website?

This Monster is turning this into a Saudi Equity Forum.
You have freedom to express your comment. But you have no authority to insult a religion or their prophet. Sri Lanka equity forum is not sorry.com Facebook page.

Admin/ Co-Admin: If you don't agree with me, please remove me from your moderator group.

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
The cult can censor people on this forum, since some cult members seem to have got moderatorships.

This cult poses a long term threat to the moderates living in Sri-Lanka. Continue the censorship on this forum (anyway it's an equity forum) but we will spread the truth about this cult.

If no action is taken to control the cult the same fate the befell Rizana will fall on our children and grand children.

Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Jiggysaurus wrote:Once again censorship by Monsters. This is how this cult hides the truth....why are true comments being censored on a Sri-Lankan website?

This Monster is turning this into a Saudi Equity Forum.

your socalled cult is the leader of 1 .50 billion people now, he will be the leader of 50% of world population by 2022 and 90% by 2030.

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Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Hanoifortune wrote:

your socalled cult is the leader of 1 .50 billion people now, he will be the leader of 50% of world population by 2022 and 90% by 2030.


When you breed like rabbits (even if your children end up in poverty) obviously you will get to 1.5 billion.

But what do you think will happen when the women of your cult get educated and find out that the founder of your cult was a slave owner with a child bride and someone who claimed that the majority of women will end up in hell (http://www.answering-islam.org/Women/in-hell.html)

This is why your cult shoot girls who try to promote education. Once the fruit ninjas of teh burka get educated it's game over for your cult.

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Chinwi wrote:Most of those women have no idea about any human and/or human behavior outside their cult formation.


Being careful Chinwi, the monster might censor you for calling his cult a cult.

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