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Sudden Interest on Bank Sector

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1Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:20 pm

stockmania

stockmania
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Looks like bank secttor shares booming.. Any Special Reason ? affraid

NTB, SAMP, COMB all looks like moving up..

2Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:33 pm

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Just to note one factor,

The Govt. imposed lending restrictions last year. No loans means no profit growth for the banks.
They lifted it recently and the talk among the banking crown was: 2013 will become a good year for banks, profit wise , compared to 2012.

In addition, prices are too low to keep them at current levels. Somehow, big players are in action. Most of the retailers can do nothing but watching. Some people have already sold the "sochchama" they had at low levels.

Not only banks, some other financial institutes such as CSEC, CFVF may rise IF they have done their job perfectly during the 2 year bearish period to reap profits in 2013. I am holding both, have no clues yet.

3Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:48 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

If CFVF had done their job , will certainly can be future big dividend player ( to make up after the financial fraud)

Chinwi wrote:Just to note one factor,

The Govt. imposed lending restrictions last year. No loans means no profit growth for the banks.
They lifted it recently and the talk among the banking crown was: 2013 will become a good year for banks, profit wise , compared to 2012.

In addition, prices are too low to keep them at current levels. Somehow, big players are in action. Most of the retailers can do nothing but watching. Some people have already sold the "sochchama" they had at low levels.

Not only banks, some other financial institutes such as CSEC, CFVF may rise IF they have done their job perfectly during the 2 year bearish period to reap profits in 2013. I am holding both, have no clues yet.

4Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:52 pm

indi009

indi009
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

so what you all are saying is, (slstock and chinwi) soon there will be a banks run followed by other financial companies???? Very Happy
just wanted to clarify myself isn't companies like LVEN SFIN AAF are better compared with CFVF. I mean those companies have done well and no frauds as well.

quote="slstock"]If CFVF had done their job , will certainly can be future big dividend player ( to make up after the financial fraud)

Chinwi wrote:Just to note one factor,

The Govt. imposed lending restrictions last year. No loans means no profit growth for the banks.
They lifted it recently and the talk among the banking crown was: 2013 will become a good year for banks, profit wise , compared to 2012.

In addition, prices are too low to keep them at current levels. Somehow, big players are in action. Most of the retailers can do nothing but watching. Some people have already sold the "sochchama" they had at low levels.

Not only banks, some other financial institutes such as CSEC, CFVF may rise IF they have done their job perfectly during the 2 year bearish period to reap profits in 2013. I am holding both, have no clues yet.

[/quote]

5Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:02 pm

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

indi009 wrote:so what you all are saying is, (slstock and chinwi) soon there will be a banks run followed by other financial companies???? Very Happy
just wanted to clarify myself isn't companies like LVEN SFIN AAF are better compared with CFVF. I mean those companies have done well and no frauds as well.

quote="slstock"]If CFVF had done their job , will certainly can be future big dividend player ( to make up after the financial fraud)

Chinwi wrote:Just to note one factor,

The Govt. imposed lending restrictions last year. No loans means no profit growth for the banks.
They lifted it recently and the talk among the banking crown was: 2013 will become a good year for banks, profit wise , compared to 2012.

In addition, prices are too low to keep them at current levels. Somehow, big players are in action. Most of the retailers can do nothing but watching. Some people have already sold the "sochchama" they had at low levels.

Not only banks, some other financial institutes such as CSEC, CFVF may rise IF they have done their job perfectly during the 2 year bearish period to reap profits in 2013. I am holding both, have no clues yet.

[/quote]

CFVF's Core Business is bond trading, If they have bought bonds with higher yields during high interest period, coming year or two is the time for them to reap benefit if interest rates go down further. I can remember their performance in 2010. I feel a deja vu from CFVF. For this reason I also love to buy some high yielding debentures like SEYB, Commercial Credit, etc. Debt instruments are going to be tradable very soon in CSE probably within this month. So I can follow the Business model of CFVF in addition to owning them. Laughing

6Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:07 pm

worthiness


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Very poor attraction on SFIN is questionable. Are there any specific financial liabilities or litigation that to be shown in forthcoming financial reports?

7Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:48 pm

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Wildbear wrote:CFVF's Core Business is bond trading, If they have bought bonds with higher yields during high interest period, coming year or two is the time for them to reap benefit if interest rates go down further. I can remember their performance in 2010. I feel a deja vu from CFVF. For this reason I also love to buy some high yielding debentures like SEYB, Commercial Credit, etc. Debt instruments are going to be tradable very soon in CSE probably within this month. So I can follow the Business model of CFVF in addition to owning them.


You got my point and explained it nicely than me
Last time I started to collect it @ 9/- . Next qtr it reported an EPS closer to 9/- !.


Commercial Credit is giving 20% bonds unsecured .
Few years ago, people had bitter experience with Vanik unsecured debentures.

8Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:15 pm

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

@chinwi, I think debt instrument trading is going to be interested than ever! I got to know that from next week onwards bonds can be traded just as stocks, This will create them more liquid , how ever there would be greater demand as well,probably more than equity at CSE, the reason is , large institutions like Insurance companies,pension funds,mutual fund tend to heavily invest in debt instruments but only few billions of debts are listed at the moment.I think those players will tend to buy listed debt than private debt in coming years,So Im bullish on high yield debts with reasonable credit worthiness, and in this sense, SEYB debentures are safer than the Commercial Credit though their rate is 21%

9Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:37 am

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

WildBear wrote:So Im bullish on high yield debts with reasonable credit worthiness, and in this sense, SEYB debentures are safer than the Commercial Credit though their rate is 21%

Why COCR debt issue giving the higher int rate is not attractive?

As a financial institute, COCR is ahead of SEYB imo..

10Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:29 pm

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

smallville wrote:
WildBear wrote:So Im bullish on high yield debts with reasonable credit worthiness, and in this sense, SEYB debentures are safer than the Commercial Credit though their rate is 21%

Why COCR debt issue giving the higher int rate is not attractive?

As a financial institute, COCR is ahead of SEYB imo..
COCR rate is very attractive, but this reminds me Vanik Debentures. Im not impressed with top shareholders as well.

11Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:46 pm

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

WildBear wrote:
smallville wrote:
WildBear wrote:So Im bullish on high yield debts with reasonable credit worthiness, and in this sense, SEYB debentures are safer than the Commercial Credit though their rate is 21%

Why COCR debt issue giving the higher int rate is not attractive?

As a financial institute, COCR is ahead of SEYB imo..
COCR rate is very attractive, but this reminds me Vanik Debentures. Im not impressed with top shareholders as well.


කොමර්ෂල් ක්‍රෙඩිට් කිව්වම ඔලුවට එන්නේ කොමර්ෂල් බැංකුවට සම්බන්ධ එකක් බවයි. එයින් අමතර (ව්‍යාජ) ආරක්ෂාකාරී හැඟීමක් දැනෙනවා.
ඉංග්‍රීසි වචනයක් නිසා භාවිතය පාලනය කිරීමක් ද කළ නොහැකියි.
කොමර්ෂල් බැංකුව පටන් ගන්න කාලේ එම නම දානකොට මෙච්චර බැංකු ඇතිවේයැයි සිතන්නට නැතුව ඇති.
ද ෆිනෑන්ස් සමාගමටත් උනේ මේ වැනි දෙයක්.

12Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Empty Re: Sudden Interest on Bank Sector Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:58 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

The way things going show me over 6000,banks should lead if so..
COMB may reach 120 quickly :O

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