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FINANCIAL CHRONICLE™ » CORPORATE CHRONICLE™ » Odd shares

Odd shares

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Slstock
DK
2011_NewComer
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Antonym
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1Odd shares Empty Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:35 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Is it hard to sell odd shares if i bought?

2Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:20 am

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

@swan03: Yes, it is difficult. The odd lot Bid price is typically lower than the normal bid price, and the Ask price is higher than the normal ask price.

But, just out of curiosity - Why did you buy odd lot shares?

3Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:41 pm

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Antonym wrote:@swan03: Yes, it is difficult. The odd lot Bid price is typically lower than the normal bid price, and the Ask price is higher than the normal ask price.

But, just out of curiosity - Why did you buy odd lot shares?

Im run out of money. Just thought of buying a half.

4Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:42 pm

tkc

tkc
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

swan03 wrote:
Antonym wrote:@swan03: Yes, it is difficult. The odd lot Bid price is typically lower than the normal bid price, and the Ask price is higher than the normal ask price.

But, just out of curiosity - Why did you buy odd lot shares?

Im run out of money. Just thought of buying a half.
Swan which share do u want to buy ?

5Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:20 pm

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

tkc wrote:
swan03 wrote:
Antonym wrote:@swan03: Yes, it is difficult. The odd lot Bid price is typically lower than the normal bid price, and the Ask price is higher than the normal ask price.

But, just out of curiosity - Why did you buy odd lot shares?

Im run out of money. Just thought of buying a half.
Swan which share do u want to buy ?

GRAN

6Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:38 pm

tkc

tkc
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

swan03 wrote:
tkc wrote:
swan03 wrote:
Antonym wrote:@swan03: Yes, it is difficult. The odd lot Bid price is typically lower than the normal bid price, and the Ask price is higher than the normal ask price.

But, just out of curiosity - Why did you buy odd lot shares?

Im run out of money. Just thought of buying a half.
Swan which share do u want to buy ?

GRAN
Try to buy atleast 100......
If u want to buy BUKI or CARS u can do odd lot trades....

7Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:44 pm

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

tkc wrote:
swan03 wrote:
tkc wrote:
swan03 wrote:
Antonym wrote:@swan03: Yes, it is difficult. The odd lot Bid price is typically lower than the normal bid price, and the Ask price is higher than the normal ask price.

But, just out of curiosity - Why did you buy odd lot shares?

Im run out of money. Just thought of buying a half.
Swan which share do u want to buy ?

GRAN
Try to buy atleast 100......
If u want to buy BUKI or CARS u can do odd lot trades....

Thanks tkc!

8Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:25 pm

2011_NewComer

2011_NewComer
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

If I collect odd lots of a share time to time and make it 100 then can I sell it as a normal trade?
e.g. I buy some share 25 one day another 25 another day and finally another 50. So can I sell that 100 directly without using odd lots transaction?

me too was thinking of doing what Swan did, as I don't have much money at the moment. But my online system doesn't support odd lot transactions Sad

Smile

9Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:19 pm

DK


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Hi,
Yes you can collect from the Odd Lot board, make it a 100 and then sell it off on the main board. But it usually takes a lot of time to build a 100 due to the low liquidity.

I do buy from the odd lot board when a stock split or a rights issue leaves me with an odd lot.

10Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:29 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

2011_NewComer wrote:If I collect odd lots of a share time to time and make it 100 then can I sell it as a normal trade?
e.g. I buy some share 25 one day another 25 another day and finally another 50. So can I sell that 100 directly without using odd lots transaction?

me too was thinking of doing what Swan did, as I don't have much money at the moment. But my online system doesn't support odd lot transactions Sad

Smile

Yes you can, But make sure the price you buy is good . Usually there is a big gap between buying and selling bids. Also you need to factor in more fees if you do small transactions. Buying little shares of low/ medium priced counters ( 10 shares of Rs 20 counter) can add in higher fees to your bought price. Another example : do not buy 1 share of Gran at Rs 160 though it is below market. The fee it will be around Rs 180 ( I am just estimating).

So becareful when you do this. Buy at right quantity and price.

BTW note :There is a charge Subject to a minimum brokerage of Rs. 10/- per contract and a minimum CDS fee of Rs. 5/-



Last edited by slstock on Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:15 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : edited for better clarity)

11Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:52 pm

2011_NewComer

2011_NewComer
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Thanks DK and slstock.

Didn't know about that additional cost, it seems I should study about odd lot trading bit more, before doing that. Smile

12Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:04 pm

DK


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

The charges would vary on your total investment, as there is a flat charge below a certain limit (even on the main board, this is there and you can easily see this if you buy something like 100 of SEMB.W0015, which trades around 1/=).

I just checked up on some odd lot stock trades I have done, the charges seem to be in the range of 1.175% (for a total investment of around 6400/=) to 1.275% (for a total investment around 2900/=). I'm sure there is some CSE document on fees, have seen it before, will post it here if I can find it.

13Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:10 pm

2011_NewComer

2011_NewComer
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Thanks DK. Please share them if you find. Smile

It seems, I misunderstood earlier, its not actually a additional cost, the same charges applies but if the cost is below a certain level then there are two fixed charges, CDS fee 5 and broker fee 10 (the minimum values for these two)

so if I buy 2 share of Rs.5, it'll cost me Rs.25.05 (5*2 + 5 + 10 + other charges)

as slstock mentioned if I buy 1 share at 160 it'll cost about 176 (160 + 5 + 10 + other charges)

14Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:33 pm

Vinu


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Can we do odd share trading through the online.In my system they ask at least 100 for any transaction.I have few odd shares which I got from right issues which are less than 100.What can I do those lots

15Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:46 pm

StocksWatch


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Vinu wrote:Can we do odd share trading through the online.In my system they ask at least 100 for any transaction.I have few odd shares which I got from right issues which are less than 100.What can I do those lots

You should be able to trade odd lots through your online account. There is a seperate tab for odd lots in my system. Check your interface and if you can't find the button, give a call to your adviser who will be able to guide you.

16Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:48 pm

Vinu


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Thanks,StocksWatch

17Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:58 pm

Vinu


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Yes, I just checked and I have that facility. I wonder Why the bid price is so low.Bid price for sampath is around 80Rs.Who wants to sell even small shares for that price?

18Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:36 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Vinu wrote:Yes, I just checked and I have that facility. I wonder Why the bid price is so low.Bid price for sampath is around 80Rs.Who wants to sell even small shares for that price?


Vinu

usually for odd lot there is big buyer and seller difference compared to normal lots ( 0f 100).
So odd lot liquidity is less. Either the buyer has to go with the seller price which in most case might not be market price and vice versa.

As I explaiend earlier , one issue is buyer and seller has to factor in the minimum fees of CSE if the value of the ood lots are small. So there could be difference their also.

Becareful before you buy odd lots to do your math, It can bring you some profit or even loss it not bought at the right price + fees.

19Odd shares Empty Re: Odd Shares Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:51 pm

DeAmO


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

Hi, I too am very interested in this topic.

Does anyone here have any experience purchasing 'odd lot' shares through BMS online trading?

Although the facility to buy odd lot shares SEEMS to be available, my orders keep getting rejected...

Any help and advice in this regard will most appreciated!

Cheers.... afro


20Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:03 pm

milanka

milanka
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

DeAmO wrote:Hi, I too am very interested in this topic.

Does anyone here have any experience purchasing 'odd lot' shares through BMS online trading?

Although the facility to buy odd lot shares SEEMS to be available, my orders keep getting rejected...

Any help and advice in this regard will most appreciated!

Cheers.... afro



The BMS online software is not working for odd lots . Is has lot of limitations. Some one there told me that new software is being prepared. but may take time.

For odd lots you have to contact the advisor at BMs. also I checked the rights purchase option that is also not working.

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/u188

21Odd shares Empty Re: Odd shares Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:14 pm

DeAmO


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

milanka wrote:

The BMS online software is not working for odd lots . Is has lot of limitations. Some one there told me that new software is being prepared. but may take time.

For odd lots you have to contact the advisor at BMs. also I checked the rights purchase option that is also not working.


Thank you for the prompt reply and help in this regard.....

I hope for the sake of their customers, they upgrade their software sooner rather than later! Shocked

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