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ORIN - the share that has not moved up a single cent

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stocks hunter


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
ORIN(Orient finance)

Still trading same levels.

EPS - Rs1.10
NAV - Rs 6.57
share Capital - 115mn
Highest traded price - Rs17

Lowest traded price - Rs15

(figures are as at 31.12.2012)

But how is CALF

SHARE PRICE JUMPED

EPS - 0.29
NAV - 8.14
Share capital - 38.7mn

Highest traded price - 31

lowest traded price -17

What is the difference here please ............... Let me know

seek


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Can you buy ORIN, just give a try. No shares in the market.

shan


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
ORIN Handle with care Vinitha ltd holding 10 million shares they are selling.

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Hope you guys noticed which CSE company is holding a stake in ORIN.

kalum


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:Hope you guys noticed which CSE company is holding a stake in ORIN.

Can you please shed some light to this discussion? This is a one company that i don't have any idea..

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@ Seek how many shares u wanted friend?

@ slstock is it belong to JINS group indirectly isn't it?

Bond


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:Hope you guys noticed which CSE company is holding a stake in ORIN.

That is misleading info. ORIN is not owned by JINS

It is owned by Janashakthi Limited which owns 67% JINS

http://www.orientwealth.lk/about_orient_wealth/aboutus.php


Most of the dividends go to Janashakthi Limited from JINS. It is re-deployed after that.

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
May I ask what you are talking about. Where the misleading info is ?

Who said ORIN is owned by JINS?

Take a look closely at the ORIN quarterly report. You will see who has a stake.



@Bond wrote:
@slstock wrote:Hope you guys noticed which CSE company is holding a stake in ORIN.

That is misleading info. ORIN is not owned by JINS

It is owned by Janashakthi Limited which owns 67% JINS

http://www.orientwealth.lk/about_orient_wealth/aboutus.php


Most of the dividends go to Janashakthi Limited from JINS. It is re-deployed after that.

Bond


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Or so you are excited about CFVF stake. Nothing strange. They have always been investing client and shareholder funds with related parties.

Just like Carsons except not that great performance with related firms Rolling Eyes

@slstock wrote:May I ask what you are talking about. Where the misleading info is ?

Who said ORIN is owned by JINS?

Take a look closely at the ORIN quarterly report. You will see who has a stake.



@Bond wrote:
@slstock wrote:Hope you guys noticed which CSE company is holding a stake in ORIN.

That is misleading info. ORIN is not owned by JINS

It is owned by Janashakthi Limited which owns 67% JINS

http://www.orientwealth.lk/about_orient_wealth/aboutus.php


Most of the dividends go to Janashakthi Limited from JINS. It is re-deployed after that.

The Alchemist


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Young James (Bond) jumping the gun ! ha ha
btw, i hear that whole Orient Group i.e. Orient Capital, Orient Finance (ORIN), Orient Wealth etc maybe combined with CFVF in a restructure, in time to come.
CFVF owns 20 % of ORIN and its unrealized gain on ORIN as at 31st Dec 2012 was approx Rs 3 per share.
With potential of CFVF 31st March 2013 EPS to be Rs 7, interest rate cut (and Good Potential 1st Q ending June) and prospects for a good dividend, will CFVF touch Rs 20 is the question ?

seek


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@The Alchemist wrote:Young James (Bond) jumping the gun ! ha ha
btw, i hear that whole Orient Group i.e. Orient Capital, Orient Finance (ORIN), Orient Wealth etc maybe combined with CFVF in a restructure, in time to come.
CFVF owns 20 % of ORIN and its unrealized gain on ORIN as at 31st Dec 2012 was approx Rs 3 per share.
With potential of CFVF 31st March 2013 EPS to be Rs 7, interest rate cut (and Good Potential 1st Q ending June) and prospects for a good dividend, will CFVF touch Rs 20 is the question ?

scratch cheers

Bond


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@The Alchemist wrote:
btw, i hear that whole Orient Group i.e. Orient Capital, Orient Finance (ORIN), Orient Wealth etc maybe combined with CFVF in a restructure, in time to come.
CFVF owns 20 % of ORIN and its unrealized gain on ORIN as at 31st Dec 2012 was approx Rs 3 per share.

Why stop there? With Rohan S on board why don't they just combine with SMB Leasing. Razz

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Excited? No.
Wanted to give extra info to the forum : Yes.

I see no issue in investing funds if return is higher and investors are paid dividend or through capital again.

That does not go for a specific company. Am talking about all companies.



@Bond wrote:Or so you are excited about CFVF stake. Nothing strange. They have always been investing client and shareholder funds with related parties.

Just like Carsons except not that great performance with related firms Rolling Eyes

@slstock wrote:May I ask what you are talking about. Where the misleading info is ?

Who said ORIN is owned by JINS?

Take a look closely at the ORIN quarterly report. You will see who has a stake.



@Bond wrote:
@slstock wrote:Hope you guys noticed which CSE company is holding a stake in ORIN.

That is misleading info. ORIN is not owned by JINS

It is owned by Janashakthi Limited which owns 67% JINS

http://www.orientwealth.lk/about_orient_wealth/aboutus.php


Most of the dividends go to Janashakthi Limited from JINS. It is re-deployed after that.



Last edited by slstock on Fri May 10, 2013 6:51 pm; edited 1 time in total

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Has anyone studied other companies with similar interest as CFVF ;-)

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Am not much worried about the Orin Moments, since its not even 0.5% of My PF, but decided to keep this for the Fun

Arena


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
ORIN introduction was happened in dark era of CSE. So there were no buyer to push the price artificially at least for initial owners to have couple of millions from the introduction.

ORIN management distributed just 20,000 shares among public/unrelated parties to show the minimum No of shareholders. now the person who is having 10m shares, selling his lot to the public but i think there will be a chance to see a sudden rise in the price. All the introductions were fully manipulated except ORIN. So having couple of thousands in the portfolio will be a real fun investment with this speculative idea.

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Bond wrote:
@The Alchemist wrote:
btw, i hear that whole Orient Group i.e. Orient Capital, Orient Finance (ORIN), Orient Wealth etc maybe combined with CFVF in a restructure, in time to come.
CFVF owns 20 % of ORIN and its unrealized gain on ORIN as at 31st Dec 2012 was approx Rs 3 per share.

Why stop there? With Rohan S on board why don't they just combine with SMB Leasing. Razz

Hi, This time be careful not to talk about owners/shareholders of this site. Anyway good to see you back in the forum Bond(James). You know what I mean tongue

KDDND

KDDND
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
is there any relationship with........
CFVF purchased a brokering firm - HDF from DNH, scratch

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@Arena wrote:ORIN introduction was happened in dark era of CSE. So there were no buyer to push the price artificially at least for initial owners to have couple of millions from the introduction.

ORIN management distributed just 20,000 shares among public/unrelated parties to show the minimum No of shareholders. now the person who is having 10m shares, selling his lot to the public but i think there will be a chance to see a sudden rise in the price. All the introductions were fully manipulated except ORIN. So having couple of thousands in the portfolio will be a real fun investment with this speculative idea.

Yes friend it is real fun, also with in last 3 to 4 months it move from 13.20 to 15/=

seek


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
I can't imagine what kind of fun u guys have with ORIN.

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