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CFVF Moving Up

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41CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:51 pm

Vptilak


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:
@stocks hunter wrote:my deer seek

u can't play with stocks. to take a decision we have to have something to prove. then only it gives us the confidence to buy.






We should not forget market most times value shares ahead of  time/ future earning.

By the time the results are out,  prices  could have increased or decreased ( basically adjusted to expectations.) This was the case  with CFVF running to Rs 16 from Rs 11-12.  So sometime we can miss the early bird special if we wait for report confirmations  if we do not do our own homework early. 

But if a company is going to continually increase its earning ( maybe QoQ  growth ) and have increasing expectations, then even if we get in later after confirmation  ( to be comfortable) we may have more distance to go.   Seems to be the case with CFVF with present behavior.


If we try to do this with specualtives ( which may have 1 positve quarter ) , when the report comes out prices would have increased. If we then buy, it maybe  at the top.

So we need to be careful in anycase with anyshare.

I am just presenting different views  as there are 2 sides to looking at this.


I think this is good freindly advice. Thank u slstock.



42CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:22 pm

smallville


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
I dont see this CFVF thread was open in the form of promotion.. It lacks the saliant features imo Wink

In this thread, many members discussed why they are bullish, business model of the company and how the policies affect their revenue, etc.. etc..

Normally promotions are like "CFVF going to hit 25 in 2 weeks" kinda headings which if no proper backing were given we either delete or change the heading.

Red, there could've been 1 or 2 CFVF threads for promotions but majority was not imo.. When it hit 19 and reversed, many wanted to know holding at 18+ levels is worthy or not.. So out of desperation many threads were started.. Ideally these should've been merged but even mods now-a-days have more than ever Wink
Good that you bring up things, and its better we ask the facts first before naming the thread a promotion. Keep up ur good work.

43CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:23 pm

rainmaker


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Some of us are top 20 in CFVF. A moderator is also top 20 I believe

Redbulls is smarter than the average

But even he is not smart enough to know what SSBT means .... 

But if you pigs want it to go up to 50 then make my day .....

44CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:25 pm

rainmaker


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Look at the shareholder list of CFVF if you want to know what I'm talking about

45CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:41 pm

Redbulls


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@rainmaker wrote:Some of us are top 20 in CFVF. A moderator is also top 20 I believe

Redbulls is smarter than the average

But even he is not smart enough to know what SSBT means .... 

But if you pigs want it to go up to 50 then make my day .....

SSBT
mysterious investment fund company may be chinese origin.
Is it right?

46CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:50 pm

udeni

udeni
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
rainmaker, moderator may be in the top 20 shareholder (SSBT) list but   
if you analyse the financial accounts CFVF has done extremely well as at 31.3.2013. After all I was told whether we should "look a gift horse in the mouth." Rolling Eyes

47CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:42 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@udeni wrote:rainmaker, moderator may be in the top 20 shareholder (SSBT) list but   
if you analyse the financial accounts CFVF has done extremely well as at 31.3.2013. After all I was told whether we should "look a gift horse in the mouth." Rolling Eyes

That's for the ppl who are so curious on Forum ownership (not about CFVF)... I've stated the forum contacts.. Pls make our day and brag on your findings for our entertainment too... Basketball Basketball

48CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:47 pm

celtic tiger


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
I bought CFVF at 16 when our members mentioned before the quarterly reports because their argument was logical.
Members! who against CFVF-can you please come up with some logical facts to prove your point?
that way you may be able to save few  pigs getting slaughtered.

49CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:39 pm

rainmaker


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Redbulls

That is why I said even you are not smart enough. Actually even slstock or other mods are not smart enough

50CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:49 pm

stocks hunter


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
No body can't control the CFVF journey. withing couple of days somtimes u all may be able to see the changes in the TOP 20 list.

Bulls and pigs who sold their Quantities very early crying for it and trying their maximum to bring the CFVF price down. some are waiting to buy it  at lower levels as well and publishing statements.

But the truth is u can't hide gems likr CFVF for a longer period FROM THE CROWD.

51CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:46 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
If this SSBT is the biggest topic; then he/she/it's a serious fella I must say,

See the holding as @ 31-MArch-2013

NTB - 2,058,500
http://www.nationstrust.com/uploads/finance/2011banks_performance_q3.pdf

CTC - 195,600
http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/460_1367318209698.pdf

Sold SERV 28,797,700 shares in March 2010 to HAYL;
http://www.cse.lk/cmt/uploadAnnounceFiles/4081268383623_543.pdf

About CFVF top 20;
Janashakthi Ltd got 5.2 Mil shares in CFVF through various accounts.

Bank of Ceylon - No. 2 A/C - 1,000,000
N.D. Kurukulasuriya - 208,836 [Managers(Portfolio), Ceylinco Life] ??????

If not valuable, BOC and Janashakthi would'n be in the list imo.. With the rate cut announcement of CB, this may get a better 2013..

52CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:14 pm

sriranga

sriranga
Co-Admin
As far as I know about SSBT - State Street Bank and Trust Company which come under State Street Corporation, handling Mutual Fund, Investment Fund etc.

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

53CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:24 pm

rainmaker


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@sri you are the closest. It was absorbed by State street .... which coincidentally has the same first two letters.

Ill give you a clue. The first letter used to be Swiss. Lets see how good your google skills are. 

Small, SSBT is used by all of the foreign funds in all the blue chip stocks. Just check the top 20.

54CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:31 pm

sriranga

sriranga
Co-Admin
@rainmaker wrote:@sri you are the closest. It was absorbed by State street .... which coincidentally has the same first two letters.

Ill give you a clue. The first letter used to be Swiss. Lets see how good your google skills are. 

Small, SSBT is used by all of the foreign funds in all the blue chip stocks. Just check the top 20.

Are you refering
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/State-Street-purchases-Swiss-apf-1700375028.html

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

55CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:34 pm

The Alchemist


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
SSBTSuisse Security Bank and Trust (Bahamas)

56CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:52 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
SSBT (Suisse Security Bank and Trust ) got its license suspended and winded up in 2001?
http://www.centralbankbahamas.com/news.php?id=15882&cmd=view
http://ssbtinliquidation.com/

Another SSBT is listed under State Street Corporation;

State Street Bank and Trust Company

SSBT, a Massachusetts-chartered trust company, was formed in 1961 by the merger of State Street’s predecessor banks.

As a state-chartered banking institution that is a member of the Federal Reserve System, SSBT’s primary federal banking regulator is the Federal Reserve for its U.S. and non-U.S. operations.
SSBT is also an FDIC-insured depository institution and is subject to applicable federal and state banking laws and to supervision and regulation by the Federal Reserve, as well as by the Massachusetts Division of Banks, the FDIC and the regulatory authorities of those states and countries in which a SSBT branch is located.

SSBT operates as a specialized custody bank that services and manages assets on behalf of its institutional clients. As a consolidated entity, SSBT and its subsidiaries and branches comprised approximately 98% of State Street’s consolidated total assets as of December 31, 2011. In 2011, SSBT processed 91% of State Street’s aggregate cash payments.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/bankinforeg/state_street_resolution_plan_201210.pdf

Ok now whats with this SSBT? is CFVF blue chip too?

57CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:00 pm

rainmaker


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Now see the shareholding of RICH. 
Do you remember how Mr Y took ACAP and RICH?

58CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:07 pm

rainmaker


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Alchemist tell me if those shares are mine ? Razz

59CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:11 pm

sriranga

sriranga
Co-Admin
@rainmaker wrote:Now see the shareholding of RICH. 
Do you remember how Mr Y took ACAP and RICH?
Are you referring
http://www.island.lk/2008/08/17/business2.html

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

60CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:05 pm

KDDND

KDDND
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Smile if any body waiting to buy CFVF below 17/- ...
i believe they got to wait... bit longer than they expect... in the next circle...

looked at the quantities..... and price range it float....
next step of CFVF would be taking place soon than  later....

But some may try to push this up than it should go... but it true it should go up further....

I believe this coz of performances records & dividend to come.... i expect they to pay total of over 3/- dividend within this whole year - 2013.

if any one want to take my comment as promotion.... still don't forget to do homework... its is worth to do it...
my expectation [CFVF to touch above 25/- & total dividend 3/- in whole 2013] may be too high but i need it Smile

61CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:12 pm

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
from wikipedia.

SSBT OD05 OMNIBUS ACCOUNT—TREATY CLIENTS and SSBT OD05 OMNIBUS CHINA TREATY 808150 are a mysterious[1] investment funds holding significant stakes in more than 170 large Japanese publicly traded companies.[2] Although their stake in single company never exceed 5% (level that requires greater disclosure under Japanese securities laws),[1] total value of their stakes is exceeding ¥ 3.58 trillion[2] (app. $ 45 billion) as of 2012. Funds are registered in Australia, but investors are not known. It is widely believed that investors are China’s state-owned China Investment Corporation and State Administration of Foreign Exchange.

62CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:25 pm

The Alchemist


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@rainmaker wrote:Alchemist tell me if those shares are mine ? Razz

I dont think so Smile. otherwise a smart guy like you (and a Bond expert) would have bought between 31st Dec 2012 and 31st March 2013, when you new for certain that interest rates would be declining after the December rate cut.  
But, it could be yours ...... stranger things have been known to happen. Like Harry82 selling LLUB shares at Rs 450 ! Embarassed

63CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:42 pm

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
In this link your name is appering no?
http://documents.gov.lk/gazette/2011/PDF/Jan/21Jan2011/I-I(E)2011.01.21.pdf

64CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:41 pm

Takecharge


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Redbulls wrote:In this link your name is appering no?
http://documents.gov.lk/gazette/2011/PDF/Jan/21Jan2011/I-I(E)2011.01.21.pdf
What name ? can u pls clarify ?

65CFVF Moving Up - Page 3 Empty Re: CFVF Moving Up Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:44 pm

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@Takecharge wrote:
@Redbulls wrote:In this link your name is appering no?
http://documents.gov.lk/gazette/2011/PDF/Jan/21Jan2011/I-I(E)2011.01.21.pdf
What name ? can u pls clarify ?

Mate do some home work go through the financial statement you may succed, before that Rainmaker needs to confirm no?

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