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1REEF the forgotten gem Empty REEF the forgotten gem Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:21 pm

troy

troy
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Reef 19 has gone down considerably. So do the reef.n. I feel there is nothing changed in the company performances and all were due to market conditions. But isnt this has some amazing facts to trigger a wide interest??

1. CLND is an associate of Citrus(Reef) with a stake of 20% and its Kolpity property is almost in aposition to generate income...
2. CITW a subsidiary will start operations very soon...

more to come, but I feel this is enough to wake the bull..

2REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:48 pm

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Nothing is forgotton:lol: 

3REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:56 pm

chat1028


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
Yep. This is an awesome at this level.
Reef W.19 also very attractive since it has a very long way to go

4REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:15 am

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
REEF.W0019 should need to correct at least 1.5 level to boost back again...

5REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:06 am

Light of Hope


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@ Jana could you explain why?

6REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:43 am

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Light of Hope wrote:@ Jana could you explain why?

@Light, Could you tell me which side are you in?? Expecting uptrend from 2.1 level??

7REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:07 am

nirowat


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Diving

8REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:25 pm

Light of Hope


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Side doesn't matter. I will sell now and buy at 1.50, if you could give logical reasons.

@Jana1 wrote:
@Light of Hope wrote:@ Jana could you explain why?

@Light, Could you tell me which side are you in?? Expecting uptrend from 2.1 level??

9REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:27 pm

troy

troy
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@Jana1 wrote:REEF.W0019 should need to correct at least 1.5 level to boost back again...

Hihi... Aiyyo pls elaborate the reasons behind your fears. Why Rs. 1.5 rather than Rs. 0.10? Im amused scratch  

Just consider the intrinsic value... lot to deliver in future...

10REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:41 pm

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Light of Hope wrote:Side doesn't matter. I will sell now and buy at 1.50, if you could give logical reasons.

@Jana1 wrote:
@Light of Hope wrote:@ Jana could you explain why?

@Light, Could you tell me which side are you in?? Expecting uptrend from 2.1 level??

2.1 was its previous low before 1 year.. Den it went to near 6, if I remember correctly, upon mature of REEF.w16.

For depreciating asset, like warrant which is trading under highly over its intrinsic value, speculators can't push its previous high unless voting share move up beyond its mature price. Touching Reef Rs-40 within 1-2 month is very less likely. So if u need decent profit or good run Warrent should be pushed down before show up again...

11REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:42 pm

sandunj


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Gem???
Are you sure?

12REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:05 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
REEF touching 30-40 in 2 months time less likely... scratch scratch

OK but if REEF.W19 comes to 1.9 or 2.0 which could be the newest low, then at least 20-30% gain could be on the cards Wink Also if REEF can pass 20, it will trigger the change. As of now it shows a tiny MACD buy signal.. But without the other indicators getting positive, its just a non-confirmed indication.

But who knows where market can stop if falls from 6000???  Even DJ is nowhere in the market these days.. 

Hmmmmm...
Lucky, this has to stop by 5970. In fact good if this advances from now on...
Unlucky? Red's gonna continue and break the 5970 supp and heads to 5818.. 

13REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:13 pm

Light of Hope


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Not necessarily... as per how I understand you

I would love to see this at 1.50, I have enough funds to buy more of this...

@Jana1 wrote:
@Light of Hope wrote:Side doesn't matter. I will sell now and buy at 1.50, if you could give logical reasons.

@Jana1 wrote:
@Light of Hope wrote:@ Jana could you explain why?

@Light, Could you tell me which side are you in?? Expecting uptrend from 2.1 level??

2.1 was its previous low before 1 year.. Den it went to near 6, if I remember correctly, upon mature of REEF.w16.

For depreciating asset, like warrant which is trading under highly over its intrinsic value, speculators can't push its previous high unless voting share move up beyond its mature price. Touching Reef Rs-40 within 1-2 month is very less likely. So if u need decent profit or good run Warrent should be pushed down before show up again...

14REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:37 am

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Light of Hope wrote:Not necessarily... as per how I understand you

I would love to see this at 1.50, I have enough funds to buy more of this...

@Jana1 wrote:
@Light of Hope wrote:Side doesn't matter. I will sell now and buy at 1.50, if you could give logical reasons.

@Jana1 wrote:
@Light of Hope wrote:@ Jana could you explain why?

@Light, Could you tell me which side are you in?? Expecting uptrend from 2.1 level??

2.1 was its previous low before 1 year.. Den it went to near 6, if I remember correctly, upon mature of REEF.w16.

For depreciating asset, like warrant which is trading under highly over its intrinsic value, speculators can't push its previous high unless voting share move up beyond its mature price. Touching Reef Rs-40 within 1-2 month is very less likely. So if u need decent profit or good run Warrent should be pushed down before show up again...

Not sure what you understood... Do u expect any warrants (which is trading highly over its intrinsic value) is not a depreciating asset? Depreciating assets which cannot be backed by fundamentals can only move through speculation.. Speculator is not a naked guy who never do similar trading, buying from 2.1 and pushing above 4. They are smart and give unexpected turns to nake retailers. For me I couldn't find any value at present price as it fluctuated in this region twice. If mkt turns up it may have small run along with voting share but probability is less. If I am buying I would consider below that price. That what I insist here. That does not mean it will come that price or can't have any upward movement. I always make sure my base is firm before I step in...

15REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:31 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Jana, where was ur base when u followed CIFL?? CSF too???

tongue 

There's no intrinsic value to warrants.. Since REEF is going at cheap REEF.19 has no value at even 0.10 but its always a play.. Previously it hit 2 and went up and few stories repeated as such. So with these kinda shares, some indicators like 14day MA or even MACD might not work.. But looking at chart  histories, there are other facts to consider at what price this looks attractive in history. So the similar patterns, trends only we have to deal with in these kinda warrants..

16REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:17 pm

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@smallville wrote:Jana, where was ur base when u followed CIFL?? CSF too???

tongue 

There's no intrinsic value to warrants.. Since REEF is going at cheap REEF.19 has no value at even 0.10 but its always a play.. Previously it hit 2 and went up and few stories repeated as such. So with these kinda shares, some indicators like 14day MA or even MACD might not work.. But looking at chart  histories, there are other facts to consider at what price this looks attractive in history. So the similar patterns, trends only we have to deal with in these kinda warrants..

@Small, CIFL and CSF also depreciating investments unless they turnaround..I didn't advice any1 to keep away from reef. I said present price is not right time. I buy high and sell high for following shares where I made good profit in twod (twice),cifl and csf brokerage lost.. PCH no idea at all, nw dr,s gives sum hopes...I will play with reef, but not this price, if it move up I will let it go. Let me give u what I mean by buy high sell high. I bought TWOD at 3.9 when it get back from 3.5 and traded 6 mn qty. That was da lowest ever. I was pretty confident that buyer should push up I got decent profit. In previous rally it came to new low about 5.5 then made rally on following days from 6.3 trading over 6 mn qty. So at that time I bought few ten thousands qty and sold from 7.3-8.3 range if I remember the highest correctly..Even I disclosed this on that same day. Even CIFL and CSF gave me good indication when I bought but I got exit with brokerage lost as I wasn't sure about the buying pattern... For me Reef is not is da buying region at the moment. Even if it goes 1.2 sumtimes I may not buy, but I may buy at 1.6 if I could figure out it could run. I am pretty concentrate on making profit rather losing on spec shares..

17REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:18 pm

seek


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Small, This Jana1 is different from Jana. They are two different users. Jana1 is more experianced member.

18REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:29 pm

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Fall of Reef W could be the last part of a chain reaction.

19REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:04 am

Light of Hope


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Jana- How much of TWOD were you able to buy at 3.9? because when a share is moving up it's difficult buy in big quantity. If you plan to collect around 25,000 reef warrants, you could when it's moving up. But if you want to collect like more than 100,000 it's gonna be difficult cause there want be much sellers then, since it's moving up. There is also more risk involved in this

I started buying reef warrants at 2.6 with little quantities and bought around 50% of what I plan to hold at 2.1, I will buy more if it goes to 1.8 or when it moves up.


@Jana1 wrote:
@smallville wrote:Jana, where was ur base when u followed CIFL?? CSF too???

tongue 



There's no intrinsic value to warrants.. Since REEF is going at cheap REEF.19 has no value at even 0.10 but its always a play.. Previously it hit 2 and went up and few stories repeated as such. So with these kinda shares, some indicators like 14day MA or even MACD might not work.. But looking at chart  histories, there are other facts to consider at what price this looks attractive in history. So the similar patterns, trends only we have to deal with in these kinda warrants..

@Small, CIFL and CSF also depreciating investments unless they turnaround..I didn't advice any1 to keep away from reef. I said present price is not right time. I buy high and sell high for following shares where I made good profit in twod (twice),cifl and csf brokerage lost.. PCH no idea at all, nw dr,s gives sum hopes...I will play with reef, but not this price, if it move up I will let it go. Let me give u what I mean by buy high sell high. I bought TWOD at 3.9 when it get back from 3.5 and traded 6 mn qty. That was da lowest ever. I was pretty confident that buyer should push up I got decent profit. In previous rally it came to new low about 5.5 then made rally on following days from 6.3 trading over 6 mn qty. So at that time I bought few ten thousands qty and sold from 7.3-8.3 range if I remember the highest correctly..Even I disclosed this on that same day. Even CIFL and CSF gave me good indication when I bought but I got exit with brokerage lost as I wasn't sure about the buying pattern... For me Reef is not is da buying region at the moment. Even if it goes 1.2 sumtimes I may not buy, but I may buy at 1.6 if I could figure out it could run. I am pretty concentrate on making profit rather losing on spec shares..

20REEF the forgotten gem Empty Re: REEF the forgotten gem Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:34 am

pirate

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My buying order for reef.19 got rejected and apparently Asia Securities is not allowing their customers to buy reef.19 (I was just told by my adviser)..can anybody confirm this please ??

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