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1SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty SDB is being collected by unknown? Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:40 pm

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Anyone knows who is behind SDB game? I guess it could easily pass 90 sooner...

2SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:42 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
String fundmentals are there for this share. NAV is 150. PE is still abut 5.

3SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:44 pm

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Yes. Very strong fundamental. Just 3% with first holder. With massive shares in the public, it should pass 120 level in 2-3 months time.

4SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:00 pm

suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Usually if it is a collection the share is brought down and collected with a big sell order at a considerated price. If it is a bull market then the SDB movement is justified. The fundamentals are very good , hope that we do not get a shock near future. I too am in SDB due to fundamentals but the movement needs to be watched. My worry is JB selling this fundamentally sound share as these rates it is very good.

5SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:28 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Suja, I feel this JB is given too much recognization.

Even if short term there is an effect ( price drop) on SDB what do you think long term?




@suja wrote:Usually if it is a collection the share is brought down and collected with a big sell order at a considerated price. If it is a bull market then the SDB movement is justified. The fundamentals are very good , hope that we do not get a shock near future. I too am in SDB due to fundamentals but the movement needs to be watched. My worry is JB selling this fundamentally sound share as these rates it is very good.

6SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:37 pm

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@suja wrote:Usually if it is a collection the share is brought down and collected with a big sell order at a considerated price. If it is a bull market then the SDB movement is justified. The fundamentals are very good , hope that we do not get a shock near future. I too am in SDB due to fundamentals but the movement needs to be watched. My worry is JB selling this fundamentally sound share as these rates it is very good.

Not need to be brought down. If their target is high as long as shares having its fundamental it can go up. So no point of brought down to collect more volume, and they can't collect more volume buy bring it down if it is supported by fundamentals. SDB moment is justified as price appreciation during the bear mkt to collect more vol. They are collecting volume without dragging the price down. This is another method of collecting volume which you could see in East and BFL before its rally.

JB is not god's kids and holding about 2.5% of issued qtys. Who worries about 2.5% holding which already traded in the mkt??

7SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:44 pm

sharekhan

sharekhan
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Leave lanka stock market and sell vegetables.......economy is devasted

8SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:07 pm

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@sharekhan wrote:Leave lanka  stock market and sell vegetables.......economy is devasted

So are you selling vegetables now? What are your prices?

9SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:52 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Could it be that a crossing will be seen soon ?

10SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:53 am

suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Guys , I will be the happiest if the share move as I am in it already. I might collect more if the report for the second quarter is good. I have and will raise issues asi am a part of this forum and honestly give my opinion. So dont get me wrong as we are too small to bring a share price down alone.

We are investing in a business and hence we need to know the buisness model that we are investing in. SDB is in the microfinance business at large and in the given economic climate if there are defaults they might be trouble. Small loans are the ones which will not default as they work on trust at large but if the poor guys are not getting enough revenue how are they going to pay? This will effect the company who has given the loanss. So I am asking every one to watch it a little bit more.

Why JB is because they send people to talk to decision makers of companies and the company is obliged to give information as it is a public company , so they might know something that we dont.

It will be silly to sell such a fundamentally strong share but they have done it???

11SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Will SDB pass 100.00? Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:53 am

freebird


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
will sdb pass 100.00 why is that moving so fast

12SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:57 am

suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Slstock, Thats a possiblity. Yes this can be the reason for the gradual uptrend as funds can ask for a block at a certain price. If this is going to happen it is best that we move in before the funds do. Please do not take this as a buy/sell. These are all possibilities and carry risks as a part of investment game.

13SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:44 am

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
SDB problem was traditional thinking  of brokers

They do not allow to buy it saying slow moving stock.The reason for slow moment also brokers Some sort of vicious circle .I have first hand experience with a  Broker

Now SDB was able to brake the vicious circle

It will go up

14SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:12 am

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Brokers can't control any shares for long term. They can only control for short term, later they may buy at double price.. If shares is fundamentally backed with trustable management (importantly educated or honest), then no1 can stop its rally... I guess ASI could touch near 6900 before October..

15SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:15 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
As the start of the year I was wishing that ASI will reach 7000 within this year and settle around 6500 before the next run.

( if I can find the post I will give the link.)

Can it come true ?

16SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:20 am

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:As the start of the year I was wishing that ASI will reach 7000  within this year and settle around 6500  before the next run.

( if I can find the post I will give the link.)

Can it come true ?

Ya. I remember You were talking when mkt was at 5800 level. But I thought it could reach 7800 within this year- I guess I was wrong at that time as misjudged the momentum from 4800-6000. As it faced two upward bottoms, I guess it could reach 7000. But possibly come down once it touched 7000/ more lvl.

17SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:25 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
7800 may  appear  far fetched to us right now,  but who know what some timely  good news and pushes can do at CSE ;-)

Anyway let first hope 7000 can happen.

This just a wish guys based on patterns. This message is not to blindly jump and buy. I could be very wrong.


@Jana1 wrote:
@slstock wrote:As the start of the year I was wishing that ASI will reach 7000  within this year and settle around 6500  before the next run.

( if I can find the post I will give the link.)

Can it come true ?

Ya. I remember You were talking when mkt was at 5800 level. But I thought it could reach 7800 within this year- I guess I was wrong at that time  as misjudged the momentum from 4800-6000. As it faced two upward bottoms, I guess it could reach 7000. But possibly come down once it touched 7000/ more lvl.

18SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:13 pm

sandunj


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
If you allready have SDB hold it with hope, but now its too high to buy for new buyers. Lot of people selling it now.

19SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:38 am

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
You advice to hold it and not to buy

If all follow you what will happen ?

Typical brokers advice

How you say price is too high get the data
calculate intrinsic value. check the fundamentals

20SDB is being collected by unknown? Empty Re: SDB is being collected by unknown? Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:28 am

sandunj


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@D.G.Dayaratne wrote:You advice to hold it and not to buy

If all follow you what will happen ?

Typical brokers advice

How you say price is too high get the data
calculate intrinsic value. check the fundamentals


No argument about the value of this share but now it s all ready appreciates near 15%.
Anyway in present brokers are not going to tell don't buy SDB even with current prices. Did you have that type of broker? Which broker firm?
If you buy SDB 89 - 90 level now you have to sell it at least 97-100 to take good gain. Will it reach? As per my knowledge lot of people are selling side including some brokers too. Anyway in CSE SDB still can go either way. But high risk is there to new buyers...

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