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1CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty CIFL - Mokada Wenne Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:09 am

Market.Player

Market.Player
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
CIFL is stuck with Rs.1.00.
What to do - Dendada ? Gandada?
Thawa udata Yaida?

Jana1 - What is your prediction?

2CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:39 am

m2_yapa

m2_yapa
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Ganda Ganda kochchara labada thawama Rs 1 ne. Api nam gaththe .50 ta. Very Happy 

3CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:49 am

Market.Player

Market.Player
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Earlier History I remember, When Seylan Bank faced like this Financial Cricis, Central Bank has appointed some party to restructure the Seylan Bank. Later on Seylan came to write track.
Now Central Bank has appointed, Finance jaint Peoples Leasing Company (PLC.N) to Do the duty. What do yoy think CIFL future?

4CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:10 am

m2_yapa

m2_yapa
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
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I feel sorry about the depositors who deposited their hard earned money. But i know Who ever earned it hard they wont deposit it in this form.
Secondly i feel who ever bought this share at around 4 and average it in to some where 2. I consider them as long term investors. Wish you good luck for them.
CIFL has a good future in this forum. But i do not know how their future in the financial sector in Sri Lanka. They may succeed in another planet or Galaxy. Not in the earth.
If you are worry about this company bocoz of your share pls do minimize you risk. Once i also received same msg from one of my good market friend. I must pay my sincere gratitude to him. I do not know whether he is watching this msg or not.
Play safe with some other share becoz there are many counters trading at their ever lowest...
Good luck

5CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:14 am

raezor


Equity Analytic
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CIFL - Mokada Wenne Capture

Suspended ??

6CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:37 am

Market.Player

Market.Player
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Not Suspended. It is a Price Band at Rs.1.00. Today CIFL can go maximum Price is Rs.1.00. That is a reason for huge buying at Rs.1.00 & 0.90. Now No sellers in Order Book.

7CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:40 am

m2_yapa

m2_yapa
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Nope it is trading but cannot put selling order beyond 1.00 lets c 2 morow. That is the market rules. What is going to give by PLC.N to CIFL.

8CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:41 am

troy

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Trading... but no sellers.
I think 2morrow this will start fro 1.20 and around 10.30am will reach 1.40.

by the way i dont understand this ceiling. is this differ from share to share?

9CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:49 am

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Market.Player wrote:CIFL is stuck with Rs.1.00.
What to do - Dendada ? Gandada?
Thawa udata Yaida?

Jana1 - What is your prediction?
I am out of this game mate...If you have already bought this at cheaper hold it or partly dispose when selling comes- in case if it get manipulated to two level. Don't buy at current level since price upper limit is sealed- because u can't identify any patterns. since no1 knows Aspic when they will dump rest of their 16 mn shares. But keep in ur mind u shd get out of this game as soon as possible with maximising profit.

Don't compare Seyb with CIFL. CIFL is utter crap whilst Seyb was good- many had confident at that time (2008). Their cause of loss was different. U can easily evaluate the seyb performance from revenue. Y CIFL revenue dramatically dropped?? All debtors ran away?? or sum 1 well planned to eat all cash?? Doesn't it smell something? Sum1 with 5 mn could push CIFL easily up. I am pretty sure it will cumdown..

10CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:00 pm

Market.Player

Market.Player
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
http://www.cse.lk/pdf/ATS-RULES.pdf


11CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:46 am

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
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I guess dumping at 1-1.1 is advisable for the time being...Nw it s trading at 1.1

12CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:09 am

Market.Player

Market.Player
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Yes Jana1, likely dumping 1.10

13CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:37 am

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
IMHO the big players including CB officials wants to up the price, because if they want to convert deposits to shares in future (which is going to happen) they need to justify the depositors no?

End of the day depositors (future share holders) and the share holders are going to enjoy a interesting lesson (bitter) for their life time no?

14CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:49 pm

nkuda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Redbulls wrote:IMHO the big players including CB officials wants to up the price, because if they want to convert deposits to shares in future (which is going to happen) they need to justify the depositors no?

End of the day depositors (future share holders) and the share holders are going to enjoy a interesting lesson (bitter) for their life time no?
Any possibility to suspend CIFL trading in the future ?, According to the company situation.

15CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:52 pm

wappula

wappula
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Jana1 wrote:
@Market.Player wrote:CIFL is stuck with Rs.1.00.
What to do - Dendada ? Gandada?
Thawa udata Yaida?

Jana1 - What is your prediction?
I am out of this game mate...If you have already bought this at cheaper  hold it or partly dispose when selling comes- in case if it get manipulated to two level. Don't buy at current level since price upper limit is sealed- because u can't identify any patterns. since no1 knows Aspic when they will dump rest of their 16 mn shares. But keep in ur mind u shd get out of this game as soon as possible with maximising profit.

Don't compare Seyb with CIFL. CIFL is utter crap whilst Seyb was good- many had confident at that time (2008). Their cause of loss was different. U can easily evaluate the seyb performance from revenue. Y CIFL revenue dramatically dropped?? All debtors ran away?? or sum 1 well planned to eat all cash?? Doesn't it smell something? Sum1 with 5 mn could push CIFL easily up. I am pretty sure it will cumdown..

thank you, jana1.
also thanks redbull.

16CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:39 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Ur not supposed to hold crap.. This can go wherever the big ppl want it to be.. If some big boy comes to pump we can see this goin up to 2 or even 3 but it can happen after a fall even allowing the player to buy more under the guise of dumping...

U n I may not know what's cooking Evil or Very Mad 

Anyways, just enjoy the small gain and satisfy..

17CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:10 pm

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@smallville wrote:Ur not supposed to hold crap.. This can go wherever the big ppl want it to be.. If some big boy comes to pump we can see this goin up to 2 or even 3 but it can happen after a fall even allowing the player to buy more under the guise of dumping...

U n I may not know what's cooking Evil or Very Mad 

Anyways, just enjoy the small gain and satisfy..
Well,

I am afraid you are wrong. Pushing it to above 2.0 level seems impossible now. If he wants he should have pushed today since upper price ceiling was there and can be easily pushed. If his intention is pushing that level the manipulator would loose the game since more volume will be unloaded. If he needs volume then he should not be too hurry. Its obvious that he is dumping, mostly Aspic.. Just 11 mn-small retailer money is enough to push this up.

I don't think any retailer/big chap can play with CIFL. For me its dead. Over 87 cases had filled. 3.2 bn debt. Upon takeover every1 will take their money off. So sum1 need to pump at-least 5 bn and still not sure how they can succeed. Who will put their money? 5 bn is a big money. Even Dhammika himself wouldn't do. Then who else?

[/quote]Anyways, just enjoy the small gain and satisfy..[/quote] That is big profit. Sum1 bought at 0.4-0.5 level its giving 100% return...

18CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:42 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Jana1,
Anyone can play with CIFL if they have a lot of money to mess with.. But what u say is also possible and wonder why he didnt wanna go wit the upper limit.. May be these ppl tryin to dump some and bring the price down again to collect.
We never know as in those days if TWOD can go up when the court case was near why CIFL not when PLC is in the game?

Well.. revival is promised by PLC but who knows? D pere would not surely mess wit this since he has other fish to fry.. Some claim maloney has no money, then wat happened to their TWOD sales?

Hilarious things are happening around us and watch dog waits till the last moment to probe in.. Gosh!!!

19CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:06 pm

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@smallville wrote:Jana1,
Anyone can play with CIFL if they have a lot of money to mess with.. But what u say is also possible and wonder why he didnt wanna go wit the upper limit.. May be these ppl tryin to dump some and bring the price down again to collect.
We never know as in those days if TWOD can go up when the court case was near why CIFL not when PLC is in the game?

Well.. revival is promised by PLC but who knows? D pere would not surely mess wit this since he has other fish to fry.. Some claim maloney has no money, then wat happened to their TWOD sales?

Hilarious things are happening around us and watch dog waits till the last moment to probe in.. Gosh!!!
@ Small,

I always look most pbms in a simple and rational way..

Yes. TWOD showed up upon court case, but if that mkt condition prevail CIFL would have passed even 4. 2013 mkt is so dull. So it can't happen.

At prevailing mkt I couldn't imagine sum1 will push down and buy back and push up. If he does so then he should push into 2.5-3 lvl and need to trade at that lvl atleast 2-3 months to get out  with profit. I dont think any manipulator would do that 1 in prevailing mkt as he will get more volume.

I remember ppl are talking about TWOD proceeds. Don't u rember LOLC pushed twod price from 5 to 8 in 2 days then dump maloney's qtys from 8-5 to settle his margin.. His entire fortune had gone..If he left with sum money he shd have bought house in Thailand since his legal action is due.

I am doubt CIFL drama by eithr Aspic or CT, no1 else...Let c...

20CIFL - Mokada Wenne Empty Re: CIFL - Mokada Wenne Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:10 pm

Redbulls

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@Jana1 wrote: CT, no1 else
Seems to be.

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