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81CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:14 pm

Slstock


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Any idea with NEST, CTC, COMB, CLC down about 25 points ( buy DIAL last minute push adding 5 points ) how SL20 index is down only 3 points overall !





@slstock wrote:Out of all shares IF  some foreigners might want to sell, I  hope  not for CTC and NEST.

These share are high caps trading at premiums at CSE.
Some companies are still holding to CTC for example which they bought below Rs 300 ( and now at Rs 1300. )
Same propoirtions with NEST . One good thing is most companies who bought are long term investors.  

However,  if they decide to sell directly in market or much lower via crossings ,  it will be very detrimental to present market sentiments.



 

82CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:16 pm

Slstock


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Never mind,  they corrected SP20 now. 15 points down ( .44%).

If SP20 drops over 1% more, it can go into oversold region ;-).

Guess TAH will also be happy with his "Waves" for a bigger recovery one in the future.


Guess further foreign selling is on cards today . Hope some other foreigner bought though ( even a local foreigner) else our retailer will worry too much.




@slstock wrote:Any idea with NEST, CTC,  COMB, CLC down  about 25 points  (   buy DIAL   last minute push adding  5 points )  how SL20 index is down only 3 points overall !  





@slstock wrote:Out of all shares IF  some foreigners might want to sell, I  hope  not for CTC and NEST.

These share are high caps trading at premiums at CSE.
Some companies are still holding to CTC for example which they bought below Rs 300 ( and now at Rs 1300. )
Same propoirtions with NEST . One good thing is most companies who bought are long term investors.  

However,  if they decide to sell directly in market or much lower via crossings ,  it will be very detrimental to present market sentiments.



 

83CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:45 pm

Slstock


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Use these "red" times wisely. I am mainly addressing investors with holding power ( trader will get plenty of opportunities as well)

No market can be red or green always.

Think I should remind below

"This trend needs to continue upto about 6300-6500 taking small breaks in the middle ( so don't panic for red days). There will be resistance at around 6200 I presume if not sooner next week. We don't want to fall into a psyc trap as mentioned in the above thread if you read. If most hold their positions , prices of shares are only going to go up. This short term selling "cycle" needs to break for all to see better times at CSE. Did you see what happened at UAE and JAPAN last year. Dubai might not forget 2013 in a hurry . "

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t32308-cse-in-2014-and-fundamental-shares-that-have-underperformed#190367

84CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:55 pm

kalum


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Thanks SLS. As you have highlighted it is very important the investors not be panic. anyway if you are an investor you shouldn't be worry about day-to-day fluctuate. if you know you are holding is worth it's time to study the market and relax. Smile

85CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:05 pm

sriranga


Co-Admin
Foreign Outflow top 2.029 Billion YTD.

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

86CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:30 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Dial has to be a foreign sale. I remember this share was Rs 5-6 in 2012 may-june and there was some big buying. If they exited big profits.

Anyway, Main share holder of DIAL need to sell about 300 million share to meet the 20% public float ;-) .
So there might be more crossing to come.


@sriranga wrote:Foreign Outflow top 2.029 Billion YTD.

87CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:33 pm

sriranga

sriranga
Co-Admin
Dial Foreign holding change 47,500,000 shares.

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

88CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:01 pm

kalum


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
It's TJL today's foreign attraction while DIAL,COMB,JKH following foreign outflow.

It's amazing how foreign dump COMB during past period, actually i don't see it is as a dumping counter for an investor  Very Happy 

89CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:11 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Thanks.

There was lot of buying for COMB at 100. Seems only part of it being sold so far.

@kalum wrote:It's TJL today's foreign attraction while DIAL,COMB,JKH following foreign outflow.

It's amazing how foreign dump COMB during past period, actually i don't see it is as a dumping counter for an investor  Very Happy 

90CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:20 pm

sashimaal

sashimaal
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:

Anyway, Main share holder of DIAL need to sell about 300 million share to meet the 20% public float ;-) .
So there might be more crossing to come.


For Dial, it's minimum public float should be 10% as i know.

Pls see SEC ruling below:

1. a) A Listed Entity on the Main Board shall maintain,

i. a minimum public holding of 20% of its total listed ordinary voting shares in the hands of a minimum of 750 public shareholders; or

ii. a market capitalization of Rupees 5 Billion of its public holding in the hands of a minimum of 500 public shareholders while maintaining a minimum public holding of 10%.



http://www.sec.gov.lk/?p=6331&lang=en

91CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:51 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Thanks for pointing out. I need to read this further as you maybe right here with the new rule.

Btw, the link you gave does it point to the same statement you made below?

@sashimaal wrote:
@slstock wrote:

Anyway, Main share holder of DIAL need to sell about 300 million share to meet the 20% public float ;-) .
So there might be more crossing to come.


For Dial, it's minimum public float should be 10% as i know.

Pls see SEC ruling below:

1. a) A Listed Entity on the Main Board shall maintain,

i. a minimum public holding of 20% of its total listed ordinary voting shares in the hands of a minimum of 750 public shareholders; or

ii. a market capitalization of Rupees 5 Billion of its public holding in the hands of a minimum of 500 public shareholders while maintaining a minimum public holding of 10%.



http://www.sec.gov.lk/?p=6331&lang=en

92CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:58 pm

sriranga

sriranga
Co-Admin
Please find below the link.
http://www.sec.gov.lk/wp-content/uploads/Rules-on-Minimum-Public-Float-as-a-Continuous-Listing-Requirement-Annexure-to-Directive.pdf

Posted in our forum on 21/12/2013
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t32129-sri-lanka-sec-sets-minimum-public-float-limits?highlight=public


@slstock wrote:Thanks for pointing out.  I need to read this further as you maybe right here with the new rule.  

Btw, the link you gave does it point to the same statement you made below?

@sashimaal wrote:
@slstock wrote:

Anyway, Main share holder of DIAL need to sell about 300 million share to meet the 20% public float ;-) .
So there might be more crossing to come.


For Dial, it's minimum public float should be 10% as i know.

Pls see SEC ruling below:

1. a) A Listed Entity on the Main Board shall maintain,

i. a minimum public holding of 20% of its total listed ordinary voting shares in the hands of a minimum of 750 public shareholders; or

ii. a market capitalization of Rupees 5 Billion of its public holding in the hands of a minimum of 500 public shareholders while maintaining a minimum public holding of 10%.



http://www.sec.gov.lk/?p=6331&lang=en

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

93CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:15 pm

dhanurrox


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
COMB falling 8 rupees in 2 days is not possible considering the slow and steady move from 120 to 129+ earlier. Evil or Very Mad 

94CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:31 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Actually most of today big company results for Dec are not bad.

CFIN, AHUN, SPEN, CTC, UML , Soft Capital all did well.

RHL, is showing big growth but they have to cut their costs which is effecting bigger profits.

95CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:46 pm

balapas


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Yeah results are good. What I see is panic due to foreign selling more than Geneva. Tapering is not the end of the world and selling all and hoping for a crash to buy again does not make sense when results are good. Tapering will soon be factored in to the share price.

96CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:05 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Feb 11th,

ASI closed in marginal Green some how! It kind of justified as today was balanced day with some shares going up.

SP20 is  also slowly heading towards  oversold region.

JKH and COMB selling is dragging the whole market down more than any fundamental reason.


Problem is we don't know how much more selling of JKH /COMB  will happen and what price. Logic says who ever might not sell JKH much below Rs 220 ( Janus bought JKH at around Rs 190 before the right issue. Also rights were at Rs 175. So if they want to exit lower they can which is a concern).

COMB why selling below Rs 120 ( with a dividend coming )

Technically JKH is nearing oversold also.

But techincals  will be challenged as long as someone big wants to exit like this.


However, there are some positives today amongst the negatives.  
Also note the world market been up while CSE is going down;-)

My gut feeling is market should be atleast up for short term sooner than later.

Foreign seller: If you want to sell,  please find buyers and do it  and get it over with soon.
 
Day by day, little by little dragging JKH down to sell, is killing the whole market which other wise was heading / behaving very well !

97CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:16 pm

dhanurrox


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:Feb 11th,

ASI closed in marginal Green some how! It kind of justified as today was balanced day with some shares going up.

SP20 is  also slowly heading towards  oversold region.

JKH and COMB selling is dragging the whole market down more than any fundamental reason.


Problem is we don't know how much more selling of JKH /COMB  will happen and what price. Logic says who ever might not sell JKH much below Rs 220 ( Janus bought JKH at around Rs 190 before the right issue. Also rights were at Rs 175. So if they want to exit lower they can which is a concern).

COMB why selling below Rs 120 ( with a dividend coming )

Technically JKH is nearing oversold also.  

But techincals  will be challenged as long as someone big wants to exit like this.


However, there are some positives today amongst the negatives.  
Also note the world market been up while CSE is going down;-)

My gut feeling is market should be atleast up for short term sooner than later.

Foreign seller: If you want to sell,  please find buyers and do it  and get it over with soon.
 
Day by day, little by little dragging JKH down to sell, is killing the whole market which other wise was heading / behaving very well !

Is " kalu suddo" behind these selling,Anyway it is applicable for buying too.Forget JKH,COMB I never expected this,
And are the financials delayed...?

98CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:16 pm

KDDND

KDDND
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:Feb 11th,

ASI closed in marginal Green some how! It kind of justified as today was balanced day with some shares going up.

SP20 is  also slowly heading towards  oversold region.

JKH and COMB selling is dragging the whole market down more than any fundamental reason.


Problem is we don't know how much more selling of JKH /COMB  will happen and what price. Logic says who ever might not sell JKH much below Rs 220 ( Janus bought JKH at around Rs 190 before the right issue. Also rights were at Rs 175. So if they want to exit lower they can which is a concern).

COMB why selling below Rs 120 ( with a dividend coming )

Technically JKH is nearing oversold also.  

But techincals  will be challenged as long as someone big wants to exit like this.


However, there are some positives today amongst the negatives.  
Also note the world market been up while CSE is going down;-)

My gut feeling is market should be atleast up for short term sooner than later.

Foreign seller: If you want to sell,  please find buyers and do it  and get it over with soon.
 
Day by day, little by little dragging JKH down to sell, is killing the whole market which other wise was heading / behaving very well !


God if they listen to you....
I sure it is their cash...
They shud hv tried all they can...
It's millions rupees transactions...
My hope is....
Are they willing to exit only from this counter....
Do they hv annoy more plan.....

Ther might hv another plan/link with previous BIG LOT of JKH...
That's ........... TWICE larger LOT of JKH might have in queue change hand at lower level...between the same parties........
But realy knows......let's WAIT and SEE  confused 

99CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:21 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Feb 12th :

Aha,
good news from JKH.

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/7921392196448_.pdf

100CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:28 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Feb 13th :

Finally some inflow, 118 mil.

Seems JKH has some more drama to show.

101CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:41 pm

Backstage

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@balapas wrote:Yeah results are good. What I see is panic due to foreign selling more than Geneva. Tapering is not the end of the world and selling all and hoping for a crash to buy again does not make sense when results are good. Tapering will soon be factored in to the share price.

Geneva is mainly an elections propaganda tool that seems to be working among the rurals but not so on the urbanites. The outcome will be a few more strictures on the govt and nothing much more. All concerned other than the LTTE rump has other urgent business to attend to.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLnYL82pYL0

102CSE and future - Page 5 Empty Re: CSE and future Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:42 pm

Slstock

Slstock
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http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t32714-there-will-be-sunshine-after-a-storm-don-t-panic-unduely

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