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1REEF.W0019  Empty REEF.W0019 Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:28 pm

hasarel

hasarel
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Need your Advice....I'm planning to buy REEF.W0019 at 1.80.This price is better or not?????

2REEF.W0019  Empty Re: REEF.W0019 Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:10 pm

Chutta


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

Wait. It will drop below 1 RS

3REEF.W0019  Empty Re: REEF.W0019 Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:19 pm

hasarel

hasarel
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Chutta wrote:Wait. It will drop below 1 RS

Thanks a lot...

4REEF.W0019  Empty Re: REEF.W0019 Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:12 am

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Hmmm.. dropping below 1????

Den I should start selling now.. I hav few 1000s Laughing

On the other hand, if this falls to 1.60-1.40 and stays firm, I will start collectin' Wink

5REEF.W0019  Empty Re: REEF.W0019 Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:00 pm

kalum


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

smallville - i'm bit confuse. isn't it make sense invest in REEF.N profitable and less risk than investing in any warrants?

6REEF.W0019  Empty Re: REEF.W0019 Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:03 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

kalum wrote:smallville - i'm bit confuse. isn't it make sense invest in REEF.N profitable and less risk than investing in any warrants?
Well warrants are a play.. REEF19 has 1.6 years more to mature that's why we're betting on it.. This is actually what if based...
What if REEF goes to 80s in this time (we have 1.6 years)? What if they build CITK or CITW in the mean time?
For REEF, there's no reason to run.. Its just speculate.. Sometimes buying at 14 would make it a 10-20% play while REEF19 wont do that much, its less risky.

7REEF.W0019  Empty Re: REEF.W0019 Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:14 pm

kalum


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

smallville wrote:
kalum wrote:smallville - i'm bit confuse. isn't it make sense invest in REEF.N profitable and less risk than investing in any warrants?
Well warrants are a play.. REEF19 has 1.6 years more to mature that's why we're betting on it.. This is actually what if based...
What if REEF goes to 80s in this time (we have 1.6 years)? What if they build CITK or CITW in the mean time?
For REEF, there's no reason to run.. Its just speculate.. Sometimes buying at 14 would make it a 10-20% play while REEF19 wont do that much, its less risky.
yeah, i got your point. Smile

it is always high risk and possible play Cool

8REEF.W0019  Empty Re: REEF.W0019 Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:44 am

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

kalum wrote:
smallville wrote:
kalum wrote:smallville - i'm bit confuse. isn't it make sense invest in REEF.N profitable and less risk than investing in any warrants?
Well warrants are a play.. REEF19 has 1.6 years more to mature that's why we're betting on it.. This is actually what if based...
What if REEF goes to 80s in this time (we have 1.6 years)? What if they build CITK or CITW in the mean time?
For REEF, there's no reason to run.. Its just speculate.. Sometimes buying at 14 would make it a 10-20% play while REEF19 wont do that much, its less risky.
yeah, i got your point. Smile

it is always high risk and possible play Cool
 

Well I should thank you for bringing this.. I did a small comparision. The given figures are rounded values.
Apprently, when the price increase % goes up, REEF.N gives u more as REEF.W19 should increase in 0.10 chunks..

Capital 25000
Counter REEF.N REEF.W19
Share Price 14 1.7
Shares that can be bought 1786 14706
Investment 24724 24720
10% increase in price (Rounded) 15.4 1.9
New Investment Value 27196 27628
profit 2472 2908

Capital 25000
Counter REEF.N REEF.W19
Share Price 14 1.7
Shares that can be bought 1786 14706
Investment 24724 24720
15% increase in price (Rounded) 16.1 2
New Investment Value 28433 29083
profit 3709 4363

Capital 25000
Counter REEF.N REEF.W19
Share Price 14 1.7
Shares that can be bought 1786 14706
Investment 24724 24720
20% increase in price (Rounded) 16.8 2
New Investment Value 29669 29083
profit 4945 4363

Capital 25000
Counter REEF.N REEF.W19
Share Price 14 1.7
Shares that can be bought 1786 14706
Investment 24724 24720
25% increase in price (Rounded) 17.5 2.1
New Investment Value 30905 30537
profit 6181 5817

9REEF.W0019  Empty Re: REEF.W0019 Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:24 am

kalum


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

smallville wrote:
kalum wrote:
smallville wrote:
kalum wrote:smallville - i'm bit confuse. isn't it make sense invest in REEF.N profitable and less risk than investing in any warrants?
Well warrants are a play.. REEF19 has 1.6 years more to mature that's why we're betting on it.. This is actually what if based...
What if REEF goes to 80s in this time (we have 1.6 years)? What if they build CITK or CITW in the mean time?
For REEF, there's no reason to run.. Its just speculate.. Sometimes buying at 14 would make it a 10-20% play while REEF19 wont do that much, its less risky.
yeah, i got your point. Smile

it is always high risk and possible play Cool
 

Well I should thank you for bringing this.. I did a small comparision. The given figures are rounded values.
Apprently, when the price increase % goes up, REEF.N gives u more as REEF.W19 should increase in 0.10 chunks..

Capital 25000
Counter REEF.N REEF.W19
Share Price 14 1.7
Shares that can be bought 1786 14706
Investment 24724 24720
10% increase in price (Rounded) 15.4 1.9
New Investment Value 27196 27628
profit 2472 2908

Capital 25000
Counter REEF.N REEF.W19
Share Price 14 1.7
Shares that can be bought 1786 14706
Investment 24724 24720
15% increase in price (Rounded) 16.1 2
New Investment Value 28433 29083
profit 3709 4363

Capital 25000
Counter REEF.N REEF.W19
Share Price 14 1.7
Shares that can be bought 1786 14706
Investment 24724 24720
20% increase in price (Rounded) 16.8 2
New Investment Value 29669 29083
profit 4945 4363

Capital 25000
Counter REEF.N REEF.W19
Share Price 14 1.7
Shares that can be bought 1786 14706
Investment 24724 24720
25% increase in price (Rounded) 17.5 2.1
New Investment Value 30905 30537
profit 6181 5817
Thanks small, That's more comprehensive.

Apparently REEF.N give more profit if share price increased more than 20%. And i do understand some times N and W increments will not be align. sometimes W may appreciate more % compared to N. So there is always a chance to people who play with risk. But if some one considering safe path they could still play with REEF.N

It's more clear now Smile

10REEF.W0019  Empty Re: REEF.W0019 Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:21 am

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Figures are actually interesting;

When % goes 33 up again REEF.W19 gives u a higher return but marginally. as this % goes higher, 3-5% increases mean nothing for REEF.W19. The reason being, increases that are not multipies of 0.10 have no meaning at all.

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