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1Today also green. Empty Today also green. Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:27 pm

keeper

keeper
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
PAP not ready to yet for green,Why?

2Today also green. Empty Re: Today also green. Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:51 pm

dhanurrox


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
We waited for the bull run,Every share will have it's time.Be patient without complaining.

3Today also green. Empty Re: Today also green. Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:58 pm

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@dhanurrox wrote:We waited for the bull run,Every share will have it's time.Be patient without complaining.
There is an old market adage: "A rising tide lifts all boats", which implies that all shares will rise in a strong market. (Incidentally the expression is often attributed to the legendary investor Warren Buffett but it actually originates from John F Kennedy, who used the saying to describe general economic upswings.)

However, the fact is that a rising tide does not necessarily lift all boats. So, follow a 'bottom up' approach to stock-picking. Select your investments wisely.


How can you invest like the experts?
There is no right or wrong way to select shares - each investor has his own style and it is important you adopt an approach you are comfortable with. However, many successful investors have three things in common:
1. A disciplined investment approach
2. A long-term investment strategy
3. A focus on high quality businesses with enduring business models

(Excerpt from Hargreaves Lansdown website)

4Today also green. Empty Re: Today also green. Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:40 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert
hurray anto is back Smile Smile Now tell me exit price for CIT

Smile

you are the master in cit and cfi ne Smile

5Today also green. Empty Re: Today also green. Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:57 pm

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@mark wrote:hurray anto is back Smile:)Now tell me exit price for CIT

Smile

you are the master in cit and cfi ne Smile
I don't have any CFI, machang... Still holding on to CIT and hoping for the best!

The fortunes of CIT are linked to the performance of CFLB & others. My average cost is Rs 164 and I would be happy to hold on until it gets back above that level. (Also see The Alchemist's recent post regarding CIT & CFI.) The prevailing lowered interest rates should help the CFLB group, which has a fairly high debt level.

6Today also green. Empty Re: Today also green. Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:02 pm

The Alchemist


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Antonym wrote:
@mark wrote:hurray anto is back Smile:)Now tell me exit price for CIT

Smile

you are the master in cit and cfi ne Smile
I don't have any CFI, machang... Still holding on to CIT and hoping for the best!

The fortunes of CIT are linked to the performance of CFLB & others. My average cost is Rs 164 and I would be happy to hold on until it gets back above that level. (Also see The Alchemist's recent post regarding CIT & CFI.) The prevailing lowered interest rates should help the CFLB group, which has a fairly high debt level.

Taking into consideration past price performance between CIT / CFI & CFLB (during 2010-2012),  the NAV of CIT/CFI and the intrinsic discount it trades to its NAV, CIT should trade minimum 5 times CFLB Price and CFI should trade Rs 15-20 below CIT price. also remember this formula steeply discounts the CIT/CFI Market Price to NAV proposition.

As CIT is below the threshold 20 % Free Float requirement, one way to overcome this may be to merge with CFI by offering (new) CIT shares to the existing minority CFI shareholders, as it owns over 40 % in CFI as of now. (I have not done the math on this one yet - just a hunch as it would be killing two birds with one stone - free float requirement and merger making sense as we discussed earlier).

7Today also green. Empty Re: Today also green. Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:54 pm

Backstage

Backstage
Moderator
Moderator
aking into consideration past price performance between CIT / CFI & CFLB (during 2010-2012), the NAV of CIT/CFI and the intrinsic discount it trades to its NAV, CIT should trade minimum 5 times CFLB Price and CFI should trade Rs 15-20 below CIT price. also remember this formula steeply discounts the CIT/CFI Market Price to NAV proposition.


So selling CFLB at 30 and buying CIT below 150 makes sense right ? CFLB though is easier to exit , CIT buyers vanish for months at times.

Hi Anto, are you following CFVF ? If so any idea of impact of the rate cuts ? I am targeting 24 , but its sheer guesing. Would really apreciate to see a qualified opinion on this.

8Today also green. Empty Re: Today also green. Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:01 am

mark

mark
Expert
Expert
@The Alchemist wrote:
@Antonym wrote:
@mark wrote:hurray anto is back Smile:)Now tell me exit price for CIT

Smile

you are the master in cit and cfi ne Smile
I don't have any CFI, machang... Still holding on to CIT and hoping for the best!

The fortunes of CIT are linked to the performance of CFLB & others. My average cost is Rs 164 and I would be happy to hold on until it gets back above that level. (Also see The Alchemist's recent post regarding CIT & CFI.) The prevailing lowered interest rates should help the CFLB group, which has a fairly high debt level.

Taking into consideration past price performance between CIT / CFI & CFLB (during 2010-2012),  the NAV of CIT/CFI and the intrinsic discount it trades to its NAV, CIT should trade minimum 5 times CFLB Price and CFI should trade Rs 15-20 below CIT price. also remember this formula steeply discounts the CIT/CFI Market Price to NAV proposition.

As CIT is below the threshold 20 % Free Float requirement, one way to overcome this may be to merge with CFI by offering (new) CIT shares to the existing minority CFI shareholders, as it owns over 40 % in CFI as of now. (I have not done the math on this one yet - just a hunch as it would be killing two birds with one stone - free float requirement and merger making sense as we discussed earlier).


Thanks sooo much dear anto and alchemist Smile Smile

Yet no move in CIT or CFI even CFLB moved from 27 to 31.50. Seems someone on the selling.

@anto- i also have CIT at avg 101, ill wait for another week and sell off if not make a move.

9Today also green. Empty Re: Today also green. Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:36 pm

Backstage

Backstage
Moderator
Moderator
@mark wrote:
@The Alchemist wrote:
@Antonym wrote:
@mark wrote:hurray anto is back Smile:)Now tell me exit price for CIT

Smile

you are the master in cit and cfi ne Smile
I don't have any CFI, machang... Still holding on to CIT and hoping for the best!

The fortunes of CIT are linked to the performance of CFLB & others. My average cost is Rs 164 and I would be happy to hold on until it gets back above that level. (Also see The Alchemist's recent post regarding CIT & CFI.) The prevailing lowered interest rates should help the CFLB group, which has a fairly high debt level.

Taking into consideration past price performance between CIT / CFI & CFLB (during 2010-2012),  the NAV of CIT/CFI and the intrinsic discount it trades to its NAV, CIT should trade minimum 5 times CFLB Price and CFI should trade Rs 15-20 below CIT price. also remember this formula steeply discounts the CIT/CFI Market Price to NAV proposition.

As CIT is below the threshold 20 % Free Float requirement, one way to overcome this may be to merge with CFI by offering (new) CIT shares to the existing minority CFI shareholders, as it owns over 40 % in CFI as of now. (I have not done the math on this one yet - just a hunch as it would be killing two birds with one stone - free float requirement and merger making sense as we discussed earlier).


Thanks sooo much dear anto and alchemist SmileSmile

Yet no move in CIT or CFI even CFLB moved from 27 to 31.50. Seems someone on the selling.

@anto- i also have CIT at avg 101, ill wait for another week and sell off if not make a move.

Mark CIT at 101 av is great. If you can hold for a couple of years ,you could get 400 to 500 %. Its that type of a share.

10Today also green. Empty Re: Today also green. Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:20 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Mark , holding for that long is somethign I like to see :-)


.
@Backstage wrote:
@mark wrote:
@The Alchemist wrote:
@Antonym wrote:
@mark wrote:hurray anto is back Smile:)Now tell me exit price for CIT

Smile

you are the master in cit and cfi ne Smile
I don't have any CFI, machang... Still holding on to CIT and hoping for the best!

The fortunes of CIT are linked to the performance of CFLB & others. My average cost is Rs 164 and I would be happy to hold on until it gets back above that level. (Also see The Alchemist's recent post regarding CIT & CFI.) The prevailing lowered interest rates should help the CFLB group, which has a fairly high debt level.

Taking into consideration past price performance between CIT / CFI & CFLB (during 2010-2012),  the NAV of CIT/CFI and the intrinsic discount it trades to its NAV, CIT should trade minimum 5 times CFLB Price and CFI should trade Rs 15-20 below CIT price. also remember this formula steeply discounts the CIT/CFI Market Price to NAV proposition.

As CIT is below the threshold 20 % Free Float requirement, one way to overcome this may be to merge with CFI by offering (new) CIT shares to the existing minority CFI shareholders, as it owns over 40 % in CFI as of now. (I have not done the math on this one yet - just a hunch as it would be killing two birds with one stone - free float requirement and merger making sense as we discussed earlier).


Thanks sooo much dear anto and alchemist SmileSmile

Yet no move in CIT or CFI even CFLB moved from 27 to 31.50. Seems someone on the selling.

@anto- i also have CIT at avg 101, ill wait for another week and sell off if not make a move.

Mark CIT at 101 av is great. If you can hold for a couple of years ,you could get 400 to 500 %. Its that type of a share.

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