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61RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 4 Empty RWSL- any news Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:50 pm

Hanoifortune


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Is it time to enter RWSL?

KDDND


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
i think just one director a lot or two 20cents above....
is there any real reason behind it?????

keeper


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Steady share in the market....,Boring one....Wena ewa nathuwatada?

dhanurrox


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
When penny's go one by one everyone will join, RWSL waits then what happens market falls so as penny's,so RWSL remains same.
Conclusion: I think there's no active player behind this.

KDDND


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
more SALT is not good for health....!!!

Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
chairman buys more shares increasing his stakes

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Hanoifortune wrote:chairman buys more shares increasing his stakes

He buys because nobody else to buy, otherwise it will fall below Rs.2..

Leon


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Hanoifortune wrote:Is it time to enter RWSL?

You tempted with the director;s buying?? May be he wanted exactly that.

Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
If you do not know, Do not write rubbish. pls check when he bought last. There are thousands of transaction every season. Now all the fundamentals have improved.


@malanp wrote:
@Hanoifortune wrote:chairman buys more shares increasing his stakes

He buys because nobody else to buy, otherwise it will fall below Rs.2..

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Hanoifortune wrote:If you do not know, Do not write rubbish. pls check when he bought last. There are thousands of transaction every season. Now all the fundamentals have improved.


@malanp wrote:
@Hanoifortune wrote:chairman buys more shares increasing his stakes

He buys because nobody else to buy, otherwise it will fall below Rs.2..


very strange, it seems you know everything about the company, then why you want to know more from others by opening a topic??
so tell us we should buy or not..
and You can offload now..

Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

I have nothing to off load. It is a solid share. Market will prove sooner .Pls see below opening and closing prices for last few season

3.10/2.60
2.90/3
3.20/2.50
2.60/2.20
2.20/2.40
2.40/2.30
2.20/2.20


@malanp wrote:
@Hanoifortune wrote:If you do not know, Do not write rubbish. pls check when he bought last. There are thousands of transaction every season. Now all the fundamentals have improved.


@malanp wrote:
@Hanoifortune wrote:chairman buys more shares increasing his stakes

He buys because nobody else to buy, otherwise it will fall below Rs.2..


Yes ,You can offload now..

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Do you call it a great share with an IPO price of 3 and trading at 2.20 after 5 years?????

can you tell us what other great shares in your mind???

Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Again you do not know what you are writing. pls see below from dec10 to dec13 low and high prices. People whole bought at ipos would have already made their buck.

3.70/4.70
4/5.10
4.20/5.40
4/5.30
3.70/4.70
2.90/4.40
2.20/3.10
2.50/3.70
2.30/3.30
2.20/2.90
2.10/2.70
1.90/2.50
2.10/2.40
 study  study  study 


@malanp wrote:
Do you call it a great share with an IPO price of 3 and trading at 2.20 after 5 years?????

can you tell us what other great shares in your mind???

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
I thought you know nothing about this company, and asking advise from forum people to buy or not, that is why I replied in negative way..seems to me you have a good idea about RWSL, so you are in a position to advise others to buy or not.

then tell me why you opened this topic by just asking others is it the time to enter????

You want to enter or you want others to enter????

tell me what is your motive??? you want some advise on RWSL or you want others to buy this share????


@Hanoifortune wrote:Again you do not know what you are writing. pls see below from dec10 to dec13 low and high prices. People whole bought at ipos would have already made their buck.

3.70/4.70
4/5.10
4.20/5.40
4/5.30
3.70/4.70
2.90/4.40
2.20/3.10
2.50/3.70
2.30/3.30
2.20/2.90
2.10/2.70
1.90/2.50
2.10/2.40
 study  study  study 


@malanp wrote:
Do you call it a great share with an IPO price of 3 and trading at 2.20 after 5 years?????

can you tell us what other great shares in your mind???

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Hani, first you start a thread and ask whether its time to enter? So u wanted the opinion of the forum.. Then u go on and tell us how great the share is by looking at director buying when it has also been inconsistent.
Looking at Director dealings, after June 2012, in Feb 2013, another bought in could be seen.. So its infrequent.

EPS is on a declining trend, NAV 2.9 but No dividends after 2011.
EPF Holds 9.9% (28.1 Mil) shares.
Div yield(5 year avg) - 0.52%
http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Financials?s=RWSL.N0000:CSE

See the financial summary for 5yrs;

RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 4 Rwsl_510

We can see earning improved in 2013 but when EPS is considere, where's the growth? This is worth for the NAV but not much growth as expected considering the last 5 years..

kalum


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@smallville wrote:Hani, first you start a thread and ask whether its time to enter? So u wanted the opinion of the forum.. Then u go on and tell us how great the share is by looking at director buying when it has also been inconsistent.
Looking at Director dealings, after June 2012, in Feb 2013, another bought in could be seen.. So its infrequent.

EPS is on a declining trend, NAV 2.9 but No dividends after 2011.
EPF Holds 9.9% (28.1 Mil) shares.
Div yield(5 year avg) - 0.52%
http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Financials?s=RWSL.N0000:CSE

See the financial summary for 5yrs;

RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 4 Rwsl_510

We can see earning improved in 2013 but when EPS is considere, where's the growth? This is worth for the NAV but not much growth as expected considering the last 5 years..

Thanks small for details. It's logical as always. Smile

RWSL is one of my base shares as well. I'm not sure if im in correct view, but not only directors collecting it. It's been collected by someone/group time to time.
may be not collected. may be it's traded.
It is a one share that has potential to gave the effect what SEMB did recently. it is worth per nav/eps basics. current prices are encouraging. but yes, its improvement is not satisfied. EPS hopes good return in future, so do I. malan, it's ipo price is 2.50 as i rem, I have invested in the IPO and it was a one good IPO at that time. just my view.



Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Now Rwsl has completed their new slatterns. When out put increases so as sales and profit. Yes, chairman last bought in June 12 then price was 2/20 and later it was shot up to 3/70.Now he is buying again and there is a opportunity price to move higher. Pls see below how weekly closing prices have slither higher for last 14 few weeks. There are 290 listed companies ,you may buy any. But important is how much you can make .

2.30
2.30
2.30
2.30
2.30
2.20
2.20
2.20
2.20
2.20
2.20
2.20
2.10
2.10

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Hanoi

you are right, you are right, we all should buy RWSL now from tomorrow,,,.. because its chairman bought yesterday.
we can make millions...

Tell me how many shares your broker house planning to offload???

KDDND

KDDND
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
EPS declining during the last three years....
in my memory this counter loitering around 2.10-2.4
without even notice...!

Any there any inside infor.....?
is there any planned trading game in coming days..??
 Rolling Eyes 

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@Hanoifortune wrote:But important is how much you can make .


Exactly.. how much ur expecting? Cuz those price changes from 2 - 2.50 doesnt say anything... If we see this collected between the same range for another few wks, we can some action is about to happen. Smile 

Ok I'll give u another point technically;

RAIGAM WAYAMBA SALTERNS PLC (RWSL.N0000) - Page 4 Rwsl10

Historically, Stochastic chart  shown when this share reaches 80 mark, there goes a price fall...

I feel this is better to catch either if this breaks 2.60 or when stochastic fall to 20s.

Also, you can be the greater fool following the director.. Who knows he may be thinking of taking this to 4 again.. Wink

suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Guys, I don't want to get involved with the argument but please note that RWSL is in a category of having limited competition. I feel that there are only 2 players at the moment. The imports are not feasible due to govt tax on salt. So it is a steady business. If you read their chairman's report the saltterns will have the best time in 14 and 15. I have the share and will buy in the future.

Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Just because you had over looked or not yet bought, pls do not discourage me. why do not you put the chart for Gran, Tafl, Samp. LBfin, Chot, Mara,RCl and etc  for the same period and check your self, At the moment RWSL is better than those shares.
Except Nest and CTC which share did not nose dive from feb 2011  to sep12?So, why do you depend on chart for ,between 2009 to 2012?

Hawk Eye

Hawk Eye
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Singalaxana is selling or started buying again ??

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Hano,

Pardon me first, if you decided to buy and I discourage you.
U cant stay ahead of the game if you follow someone blindly.. Directors have diff motives than us, they buy shares just to make it look attractive, they buy shares when dividends are abt to announce, etc.. Anyways, I hope a majority dont even sought after a particular company's share to own the company by themselves.
Basically, we look for good profits, less debts, expansions, future prospects, dividends, etc.. in seeking prospective shares.

I just gave my opinion considering two criterias;
1) Fundamental judgement
2) Technical aspect

If I'm gonna put charts for all the shares you want, its not gonna happen.. I did this even since malanp has got few valid points you didnt wanna consider.

Lets hope for your sake, as suja said, RWSL can benefit from less competition in future.

So if anyone wants to buy,. its their decision. If this breaks 2.60 with vol, it can go up at least to 3.00-3.20. So there's short term benefits too..
For long term, we gotta analyse more deeper than just lookin at charts or glancing at financials.

KDDND

KDDND
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
there could be another scenario...

There could be a major management decision to taken in near future...
which might have known only to one or two people including the director...

knowing that decision they might have brought...
even if it so...
only 160K transaction ..... is this enough???

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