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61UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Fri May 15, 2015 11:45 pm

Arena


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
lakmal...............  In Any company you need to have a good distribution net work to develop the market. They invest in that so we may see high cost in Distribution, Marketing sales as well as in administration since you need to recruit good people and may be also good systems to run the operations. 

As I said in a old post ALUFAB will be the next value gem in the market which will pass 50, 75 , 100 and 150 land marks in future followed by great results. We just saw the turn around Quarter statement with healthy profits so price will adjust for future profits as soon as big shots collect their ownership as what happens with VFIN right now.  Just invest in this company and wait for three years you will get more than 400% gain.

Do not play with Market waves as a ordinary Investor who make their Brokers rich. Select the correct company and wait. We do not see these kind of shares all the time so forget about others and grab the opportunities quickly. There will be a time this share also overvalued so do not wait till it passes 50 to buy. With this results i will buy this share at any price below 45 if you can wait for 1 year. I have ALUFAB bought at 29 and will buy few more if wave comes to my side.

One more Plus point is company has more than 134m in cash This is a huge amount for a small company like ALUFAB. So DP do not want to go for a Right issue for its expansion and he will do wonders with this money. Cash per share is around Rs. 11.

62UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:08 am

Teller


Moderator
Moderator
Dear mdcpk, actually ALUF made 0.14 cents only for whole financial year. Last quarter unaditied results shows 1 plus eps and overall set off with other quaters losses average to 0.14 cents. Suddenly increasement of last quarter sales then all 3 quarter losses reversed. We have to find out the reason for sudden increasement of turnover and want to make sure this trend will continue or not. So far i dont see obviousr,reason for increasement. Want to wait for next quarters to see how this trend behaves.

63UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 10:57 am

Arena


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Dear Teller,

The reasons for ALUFAB results are as follows.

1) New Helyy Managemnt.

2) Vision of Dammika Perera.

3) Recent change of Directors as disclosed under announcement. This is usual for Any Dammika Pereras Company where he get the right  talent for all his companies. 

These profits are operations profits so consistency is assured.  No point of Compare ring there is no growing company in par with Alufab for next 6 quarters. We will see continuous Growth in top line during months to come. See Vfin, LFIN, RCL, and all other companies belongs to DP. There is a 10 Year summary attached to each Annual Report.

64UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 1:41 pm

EPS


Expert
Expert
Quarter EPS 1.02 (ANNUALIZE 4.04) X 10 PER = Rs.40/- or 45/- is good at this stsge.
Good luck for ALUF investors.....

65UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 2:03 pm

geshan.weerakkody


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@EPS wrote:Quarter EPS 1.02 (ANNUALIZE 4.04) X 10 PER = Rs.40/- or 45/- is good at this stsge.
Good luck for ALUF investors.....


We know that all quarters do not make similar profits for PARQ.


March quarter is much much higher


ALUF - maybe similar

66UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 2:52 pm

EPS

EPS
Expert
Expert
not agreed.
this is start of turning.
Next financual year profit will defa higher figure than 4.04.
above is my minimum valuation.
Sure, Alufab will be higher return company in next year.

67UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 2:58 pm

k9


Expert
Expert
ALUF shows 1.02 EPS...but ALUF has to wait sometime to Record Profits like PARQ.
Currently ALUF recorded 0.14 EPS for the 2014/15 yr.Trading at 35 levels.
Turnover wise ALUF has not recorded increasement ,52 mn for both Q3 and Q4 2014/15.
Reason is Aluf is supplying their products to  ALUMAX,thats y Mr. Dhammika P has taken over ALUF for the benifit of ALUM.
In Q3 GP is 32.9 mn and Q4 GP has come down to 12 mn.We have consider it.

ALUF price will be gone up becuase of the favourable market situation.For trading purposes ALUF is ok.

But Investment purpose mid and long PARQ is the best.

ALUF price will be gone up becuase of the favourable market situation.For trading purposes ALUF is ok.
But Investment purpose mid and long PARQ is the best.
Remember PARQ risk is very very low as PARQ s Profits consists with both TILE and Aluminum.

Highest future earnings can be expected from PARQ.

68UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:19 pm

EPS

EPS
Expert
Expert
Yes...
Important point is PARQ is having Aluminimum and Tile related Profits. Tile grouts are under selling RCL brand now.

69UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:34 pm

Maharaja


Expert
Expert
Great to hear the good news ,
BUT guys tell me what price to buy on monday !!!!
I have only 100,000 portfolio
34.30 or similar price it had closed yesterday,
guys whats best price to enter ???

70UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:35 pm

Maharaja


Expert
Expert
Great to hear the good news ,
BUT guys tell me what price to buy on monday !!!!
I have only 100,000 portfolio
34.30 or similar price it had closed yesterday,
guys whats best price to enter ???

71UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:36 pm

Maharaja


Expert
Expert
And net assets per share comes more than rs.26 if my calculation is correct.
315 million/ 12 million
tel me if am wrong

72UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 3:49 pm

geshan.weerakkody

geshan.weerakkody
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@k9 wrote:ALUF shows 1.02 EPS...but ALUF has to wait sometime to Record Profits like PARQ.
Currently ALUF recorded 0.14 EPS for the 2014/15 yr.Trading at 35 levels.
Turnover wise ALUF has not recorded increasement ,52 mn for both Q3 and Q4 2014/15.
Reason is Aluf is supplying their products to  ALUMAX,thats y Mr. Dhammika P has taken over ALUF for the benifit of ALUM.
In Q3 GP is 32.9 mn and Q4 GP has come down to 12 mn.We have consider it.

ALUF price will be gone up becuase of the favourable market situation.For trading purposes ALUF is ok.

But Investment purpose mid and long PARQ is the best.

ALUF price will be gone up becuase of the favourable market situation.For trading purposes ALUF is ok.
But Investment purpose mid and long PARQ is the best.
Remember PARQ risk is very very low as PARQ s Profits consists with both TILE and Aluminum.

Highest future earnings can be expected from PARQ.

Well said . Rs 75 can be expected soon if ASI is green

73UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 4:34 pm

k9


Expert
Expert
PARQ is backed by whole Tile sector and the Swisstek Aluminium Ltd.
PARQ tile related products selling through the RCL and Lanka tile outlets.PARQ tile related products are the best products in the market now and captured over 80 % of the overall market.

ALUF is backed by only ALUM..

Mr Arena said that,

"Any company you need to have a good distribution net work to develop the market. They invest in that so we may see high cost in Distribution, Marketing sales as well as in administration since you need to recruit good people and may be also good systems to run the operations. "

We can not agree to that statement as ALUF cutting down their Selling and Distribution Cost by sending Directly to ALUM without having distributors.
Currently ALUF is selling their products to ALUM. they imported and directly sending to ALUM.So no distribution costs relating to the product distribution.
Because of that,
Q3 ALUF selling and distribution cost is 13 mn.But Q4 2.6 mn + figure.

If ALUM expanding their buying from ALUF ,ALUF Turnover will be gone up.That depends on the ALUMs orders.
But the expansion of ALUFs Turnover is low.But ALUF will  manage their Expenses  by reducing costs to run the company in Profit path.

PARQ has clear Expansion ways than  ALUF and now PARQ has the Monopoly of Tile related products.

Technically when PARQ hits 100+++ ALUF can also be gone up.

So analyze the reports carefully  and do your own study....

Dont burn your fingers....
Invest wisely as we all invest our hard earning money or borrowed money with an  interest.

Happy Trading...........

74UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 5:39 pm

Maharaja


Expert
Expert
guys can u help me with my net asset per share cal.
Rs.26+ ?????
If so amazing rytt !!!

75UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:17 pm

Jana

Jana
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@mdcpk1975 wrote:I am just wondering which alufab share jana and teller talking about..has it made a loss.. i cant c it in their report...is there another aluf share in the market
 I am bit confuse because of they use the word "Loss per share" instead of "Earning per Share" 
but ok  ..calculation wise they show profit ..ALUF can go up
 
UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Aluf10

76UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:25 pm

k9


Expert
Expert
U r right jana.its a big mistake.Seems company didnt recheck the reports b4 published.
Have to double check the figures also Carefully.
Dont know this report is audited or not.Seems not audited.
Have to check the totals  of all Q reports and should check whether tally to the yearlly figure.

77UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:28 pm

Maharaja


Expert
Expert
Dear jana,
advise on net assets per share pls

78UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:31 pm

Jana

Jana
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@k9 wrote:U r right jana.its a big mistake.Seems company didnt recheck the reports b4 published.
Have to double check the figures also Carefully.
Dont know this report is audited or not.Seems not audited.
Have to check the totals  of all Q reports and should check whether tally to the yearlly figure.
yes k9 , they are rushing to published reports within the time limit otherwise they need to pay some penalty and its goes to default board as well.

So we can't trust them they did proper audit or not .. thats the reason they use the word unaudited...

any how this reports are right then ALUF can move to upward

79UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:39 pm

Pac-man

Pac-man
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Yes maharaja... 315 mn/ 12 mn will be 26+ value.
i am not a pro, the seniors will be able to help

80UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sat May 16, 2015 11:59 pm

Jana

Jana
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
I think
Actually  NAV = total equity /No of shares 

31st mar 2015 NAV= 22.22

but 

31st Mar 2014 NAV is 22.92  = 276,437,192/12,058,200



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81UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sun May 17, 2015 12:06 am

k9


Expert
Expert
Pls add all the total Q net profit figures in 2014/15.it does not match to the final amount of 1,706,284.
Last 9 months loss is - 15,692,196. 
Q4 profit figure 12,300,759
Year profit 1,706,284

82UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sun May 17, 2015 12:26 am

Gainer

Gainer
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@k9 wrote:Pls add all the total Q net profit figures in 2014/15.it does not match to the final amount of 1,706,284.
Last 9 months loss is - 15,692,196. 
Q4 profit figure 12,300,759
Year profit 1,706,284

Year end loss EPS (00.28) cents How they show the profit 00.14 cents

83UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sun May 17, 2015 1:26 am

Teller

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Hi jana, these reports are not audited. As you, mentioned they have realeased this to escape transfer to default board. Thats a good movement. Its not like before. How ever what about net book value. Thats most important i believe.( Assets - depreciation).


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Teller said is said..

84UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sun May 17, 2015 11:52 am

Maharaja


Expert
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Hi tller gainer jana and others,
thankyou again for guiding me..
so what price do u think i must buy in this turnaround company ???

85UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) - Page 4 Empty Re: UNISYST ENGINEERING PLC (ALUF.N0000) Sun May 17, 2015 7:47 pm

Maharaja


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Rs.35 ??

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