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21For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun May 31, 2015 1:00 pm

Quibit


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Raj Rajaratnam wrote:True enough. Most of the small investors (including me), don't know the warrant mechanism properly.
Even though I'm in finance filed I burnt my fingers with "GREG.W".

But still the greediness is not letting me to invest some in my favorite company's warrants....

Raj Rajaratnam is not a small investor of JKH. Smile



Last edited by Quibit on Sun May 31, 2015 1:17 pm; edited 1 time in total

22For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun May 31, 2015 1:02 pm

investcsesl


Expert
Expert
Dear Raj (hope you will excuse me calling by your first name, when considering your age)

We all are in the same boat. only reason we lost huge amount of money is the "Greediness". I will put my next post with my experience how to minimize the greediness and convert ourselves to become small time investors.

23For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun May 31, 2015 1:06 pm

Raj Rajaratnam


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Quitbuit I learnt my lessons..... I'm in my good conduct time....
Don't corrupt me again... :no:

24For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun May 31, 2015 1:09 pm

Raj Rajaratnam


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@investcsesl wrote:Dear Raj (hope you will excuse me calling by your first name, when considering your age)

We all are in the same boat. only reason we lost huge amount of money is the "Greediness". I will put my next post with my experience how to minimize the greediness and convert ourselves to become small time investors.

No problem investcsesl,

Age is not barrier.... I'm still young mentally....
Keep going with your posts....
I'm enjoying this forum......

25For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun May 31, 2015 1:45 pm

investcsesl


Expert
Expert
@Raj Rajaratnam wrote:
You are correct. I have a gut feeling this sudden recovery may last to 220 level before the W22 exercising date.
If so it will be honeymoon period for warrant holders.
But yeah High risk.... High return

But its complicate as all depend on the political conditions and investor sentiments.....

It's highly unlikely JKH.N to bounce back to 220 levels during the exercising date of W22. But given the full respect of your gut feeling I have done a below calculation. Still I feel, the best option is to go with normal share and get a very decent profit of 28% within 06 months, rather than aiming 200% profit from W22 and ended up loosing 100% of investment.

JKH - N
Current Trading Price                        195.00
Number of Shares7
Cost for 07 Shares                    1,365.00
Cost with Brokerage                    1,380.29
Dividend XD - 04 June 2015                          10.50
After Subdivision 
Number of allotted Shares8
Total cost per 8 shares                    1,369.79
Cost per share                        171.22
Projected value at Nov 2015                        177.32
Expected Dividend for FY16                            3.50
Projected value at Nov 2016                        186.01
Expected Trading value at Nov 2015                        220.00
Profit for six months28%
Note: interest = Average Weighted Fixed Deposit Rate (AWFDR)  = 7.12%
JKH - W22
Current Trading Price                          20.00
Number of Warrants7
Cost for 07 Shares                        140.00
Cost with Brokerage                        141.57
After Subdivision 
Number of allotted Warrants8
Exercise Price                        161.87
Payment for 8 Shares                    1,294.96
Total cost per 8 shares                    1,436.53
Cost per share                        179.57
Projected value at Nov 2015                        179.99
Expected Trading value at Nov 2015 assuming JKH.N@220                          58.13
Profit for six months191%

26For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun May 31, 2015 4:33 pm

senthu


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
what will be expected price of JKH in sep 2016 ?

27For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun May 31, 2015 5:43 pm

Raj Rajaratnam

Raj Rajaratnam
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
InvestCSEsl, I was calculating this earlier....

High risk, high return....

Which one you like 28% return or 191% return?

As a smart investor I go for JKH.N.... However, the greed never let us to focus on JKH.N.
Hope for the best.....

28For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun May 31, 2015 5:57 pm

senthu


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
JKH.N may be traded 250/- after 16 months time. if that happened JKH.W23 give u good return.
Is that right?

29For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun May 31, 2015 5:58 pm

investcsesl

investcsesl
Expert
Expert
@Raj Rajaratnam wrote:InvestCSEsl, I was calculating this earlier....

High risk, high return....

Which one you like 28% return or 191% return?

As a smart investor I go for JKH.N.... However, the greed never let us to focus on JKH.N.
Hope for the best.....
Raj, I have selected JKH.N, and I bought my first JKH share in my life during last week. By doing so, I have forcefully beaten my greediness to a certain extent and now I feel like a tiny investor. If we allow the greediness to develop while taking investment decision it will be a disaster. That was my mistake from the beginning and resulted with heavy losses. 

30For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun May 31, 2015 6:00 pm

investcsesl

investcsesl
Expert
Expert
This post was created to pick the best option of investing in JKH from the three forms of JKH.N, JKH22 and JKH23 at the current downtrend. 
Being the best option of normal share as the investment, I never recommend you to sell your holdings of JKH.W22 and JKH.W23 at current market prices. 
Now JKH.N is trading almost at the 52 weeks low so that we will expect a bounce back soon. JKH.W22 also has another 6 months to exercise and therefore you will have better chances to recover. 
Keep your basic guideline as never sell at a loss.

31For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:44 pm

investcsesl

investcsesl
Expert
Expert
I think this is a golden opportunity for long term investors to invest in a Great Company at a very reasonable price. So no need to panic by looking at the red screen, be greedy to grab this opportunity. If it drops to 190 then it will be a better option and 185 consider as the best buying option.

32For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:56 pm

jayathu


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
It will reach 190-185 levels, political situation is a mess.

33For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:01 pm

BvsB

BvsB
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
I do not think JKH to go below Rs 190 level...

Good support around Rs 190-191...

34For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:22 pm

jayathu


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Everyone was saying buy it around 200 levels, it won't go down below 200. Nw what has happened??

35For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:24 pm

jayathu


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Company is solid, Gud earning growth but political instability trumps all of those factors. That's why I expect jkh will go down further

36For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:56 pm

investcsesl

investcsesl
Expert
Expert
@jayathu wrote:Everyone was saying buy it around 200 levels, it won't go down below 200. Nw what has happened??
You develop the strategy to buy shares in slabs during sharp down tern. Below was what I'm following. Unfortunately I don't have big money to buy JKH.

Bought 250 shares at Rs. 200
Bought 500 shares at Rs. 195
Placed GTC buy order for 1000 shares at Rs. 190
Will buy 2000 shares at Rs. 185 if it touches.

By doing so, I will end up having 3750 shares at an average of 188.66 which is very close to the bottom price of 185.

37For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:59 pm

Quibit


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Average down when buying and average up when selling. You could get best of both world. Thanks Investcsesl. Hope JKH won't fall as low as 150/=?

38For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:08 am

investcsesl

investcsesl
Expert
Expert
@Quibit wrote:Average down when buying and average up when selling. You could get best of both world. Thanks Investcsesl. Hope JKH won't fall as low as 150/=?
Don't worry Quibit, if it falls to 150 then I will sell all my properties and buy it for sure Very Happy .

39For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:29 pm

Raj Rajaratnam

Raj Rajaratnam
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@Quibit wrote:Average down when buying and average up when selling. You could get best of both world. Thanks Investcsesl. Hope JKH won't fall as low as 150/=?

I'm waiting for that level with mouth watering.....

Even though my total portfolio coming down drastically these days... I'm enjoying the market as JKH is falling....

for every rupee down, I'm averaging my investment price. I'm only looking towards the future.

I'm seeing some positive movement in 191 level.... but i need at 185  :twisted: :twisted:

40For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:21 am

investcsesl

investcsesl
Expert
Expert
It’s quite unusual behavior from the market leader JKH.
Share price has sharply dropped from Rs. 205 – 190 within a span of 10 days till the date of XD where Rs. 1.50 was declared as a dividend. But soon after the XD share price has bounced back to Rs. 195 behaving against the general norm of “Share price may drop after the XD”. 
By looking at the pattern I thought it might touch Rs. 185 but due to unique nature of JKH it has bounced back. Better to wait couple of days to confirm the exact direction.

41For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:51 am

BvsB

BvsB
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@BvsB wrote:I do not think JKH to go below Rs 190 level...

Good support around Rs 190-191...

Here we go .... Twisted Evil

Can expect short term upward movement.. Cool

42For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:19 am

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Volume support not there on Friday I doubt Monday

43For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:31 pm

investcsesl

investcsesl
Expert
Expert
@investcsesl wrote:It’s quite unusual behavior from the market leader JKH.
Share price has sharply dropped from Rs. 205 – 190 within a span of 10 days till the date of XD where Rs. 1.50 was declared as a dividend. But soon after the XD share price has bounced back to Rs. 195 behaving against the general norm of “Share price may drop after the XD”. 
By looking at the pattern I thought it might touch Rs. 185 but due to unique nature of JKH it has bounced back. Better to wait couple of days to confirm the exact direction.
As predicted, JKH is returning back to 190 levels. If it breaks 190 then 185 is possible. Waiting for the golden opportunity.

44For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:33 pm

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@nimantha80 wrote:Volume support not there on Friday I doubt Monday
Very Happy

45For JKH Small Scale Investors - Page 2 Empty Re: For JKH Small Scale Investors Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:36 pm

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@nimantha80 wrote:
@nimantha80 wrote:Volume support not there on Friday I doubt Monday
Very Happy
190 buying just vanished.

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