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WHAT ARE THE EXPECTING PRICES OF GRAN, TAFL & BFL?

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suku502
nis2010
shadow walker
anu
SLBOY
bandara 123
AUS79
NZ BOY
stockback
kassachandi
kashyapa89
rizan666
Teller
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VALUEPICK
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peacockman


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

bandara 123 wrote:peacockman

YOU ARE DEAD WRONG

Hey ...Hey there should be an end to this. Some companies take FY as Dec 31 and some companies take FY as March 31.

BFL FY goes from 01/04/2015 to 31/03/2016.

These are simple things no friend.Why can't you go throught the reports which are in CSE site. It cleary stated that BFL has reported EPS of Rs5.93 in 4Q14.

Now June Q is their Ist Q in their FY15/16.

Now again who is correct?
Mr. Bandara, if so... 9.02 X 4 is correct... you're right!

Teller


Moderator
Moderator

Now both are correct :-).

bandara 123


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Teller 

WHAT? How come that?




peacockman 



Then just imagine the Annualized EPS of BFL now.




It is Rs9.02 * 4 = Rs36.08




This is really really under value and should trade above Rs200 for sure. No doubt. Any sales below Rs200 is very cheap and grab it without wasting time and without double thinking.

Teller


Moderator
Moderator

Of course mr.bandara. BFL can provide a better EPS in coming quarters too. Surely 45-50 /- is possible. In that scenario i cant imagine what will be the price. I feel capitalization reserve,split or higher dividend may be possible & There will be few sellers monday onwards. BFL will break all the barriers. Thx all the members who shared value infos.

SLBOY


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Both of you are trying to get expected EPS. So peackman trying to get by last 2 quarter and avarage where as mr banadara expecting this quarter multiple by 4. However ever when company having good potential in comming quaters it seem to be good by evaluateting through current quarter. Is there is any formal guide to get expected EPS as accounting point of view.

VALUEPICK

VALUEPICK
Expert
Expert

Globally egg prices are at record high. In May, Goldman Sachs estimated that U.S. consumers will pay $7.5 billion to $8 billion more this year to buy eggs. On top of that Record beef prices not expected to ease any time soon. Globally oil, milk and gold all are down. But meat is up. There will be great demand for protein products from Indonesia, China to the USA.
 
If we follow these three companies not only during next three to 11 quarters but also beyond that, then we should be able to get some good ideas about their industry and their individual business. Food stocks are good for all types of situation including during period of uncertainty. These three have great value and strong outlook now.
 
Have a look at their pattern, behaviour and momentum as well. Each stock can have its own personality as well. I like stocks with strong personality.  It is better to study their bigger picture rather than analysing few quarters. That is where we are going to see some great opportunities.

Teller

Teller
Moderator
Moderator

This is called RFC, RFC stands for Rollling Forcast.
When we prepare a rolling forcast for a particular future period, we have to consider ACTUALS plus FUTURE earnings.
Actual figures always our actual data but future figures we have to calculate with assumptions. when it comes to BFL,the bes,method is
1st quarter acutual + future 3 quarter forcast.
We expect less cost per unit in coming quarters as new projects, less overhead costs as low oil and electricity price reduction in next quarter., high tourist boom and high disposable income
In that scenario BFL can provide a better EPS in coming 3 quarters atleast 10% by QOQ.
So mr.Bandaras way of calculation is better.
Good luck gents

kassachandi


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

So experts what will be the immediate target of BFL after election day ?

Teller

Teller
Moderator
Moderator

As i said earlier
140----->185
185------>237
So definitely 220 plus.....with good government

peacockman


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:As i said earlier
140----->185
185------>237
So definitely 220 plus.....with good government
I agree with you & hope to an All Time High break out very soon.

kassachandi


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Gran will settle around 80-82 range on Monday

bandara 123


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

BFL should immediately pass Rs200 levels in order to adjust to its superior results.

TAFL will touch Rs120 levels and GRAN will come closer to Rs80 - Rs90 range tommorow.

kassachandi


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

What will be the starting prices of 3 chicks tomorrow?

anu

anu
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Had a glance at the 1Q2015/16 financials of BFL. There is a 25 mn item added to the comprehensive income by way of negative goodwill. Taking away this one-off item, the EPS to be used for annualising should be 7.5. 

One basic assumption in annualising this Q EPS is that the raw material price will continue to be low and interest rate will continue at current levels. The moment these factors work negatively, the results can fall short of expectations.

Nevertheless, this is a promising counter.

VALUEPICK

VALUEPICK
Expert
Expert

After sometimes, today BFL had a strong break out. TAFL also had another strong breakout. GARN is also not that bad. It will follow both BFL and TAFL.

kassachandi


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Valuepick what are ur targets tommorow for BFL

VALUEPICK

VALUEPICK
Expert
Expert

I gave up keeping short term targets for stocks especially in bull market. Besides, my strategy is different. In addition to strong stocks, I like out of favour stock as well. I believe some of my out of favour stocks will do well in 2016/17.
 
Only thing I can tell now is it has great value. I commented on this stock when it was trading below Rs.130. I said if it passes Rs.140 and Rs.150, we can become bullish.

This earning season has given opportunity to pick lot of value stocks with strong outlook. We should screen and should target best in the lot.
 

Food stocks are idle for all type of market situation, during uncertainly and in the remaining stages of current bull market especially later stage of bull market etc. If we select a stock we should have some idea about bigger picture. How about bigger picture in 2016/17 and beyond?  Is it going to be better than today? There are so many way to study to find out winners in the market. 

kassachandi


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Thanks MR Valuepick. i expect BFL will reach 220+ end of this week.

rizan666


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

BFL will pass 200 easily tomorrow.

peacockman


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

kassachandi wrote:Thanks MR Valuepick. i expect BFL will reach 220+ end of this week.

Dear kassachandi ,

According to 'Price/EPS/PER Chart Reading' BFL may break it's All Time High. Before that it will pass 210, 220, 230 levels very soon!

Please refer the charts given below!
We can identify these things at the charts :-
1. The current EPS is 9 now, but it was 30 by 2011
2. The P/E Ratio is 20 now, but it was 25 by 2014
It is pertinent  to get 27-30 as the (Annual) EPS  & to get 20-25 as the PER.
(27 X 20...?)
So, we can imagine that what a big counter it is & what a discounted price now!

Here are the charts:-
(Duration : Aug 2011 - Aug 2015)
 
Dear Experts, Moderators, Guys, Comments please....

WHAT ARE THE EXPECTING PRICES OF GRAN, TAFL & BFL? - Page 3 Big

shadow walker

shadow walker
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

i heard
that f* EPF wants to sell their quantities..

nis2010


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

shadow walker wrote:i heard
that f* EPF wants to sell their quantities..
that mean kabbas gambling epf going to recover.

kassachandi


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

I don't thinks so.thier will be lot of institutional investors who want to grab this value gem in this discounted price

Teller

Teller
Moderator
Moderator

If EPF sell this level. We can say its a manipulation. BFL has a grate value to reach 350 levels. Its not because of any thing. Its because of its earnings and future developments.

kassachandi


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

EPF will buy more now

AUS79


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Chicken running like " catch me if you can.." Smile

suku502


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Looks like 2011??

peacockman


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

kassachandi wrote:EPF will buy more now
yep... trying to buy more & more...

SLBOY


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:If EPF sell this level. We can say its a manipulation. BFL has a grate value to reach  350 levels.  Its not because of any thing. Its because of  its earnings and future developments.
As per Quarterly Financial Reports, EPF bought 5Mn Shares of GRAN during the period of January to March 2011. Can any body provide the Avg price of GRAN on those period. Then We can have a idea about the Cost per share for them.

bandara 123


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

GRAN and TAFL are flying now.

However the most under valued stock in the poultry group BFL is still trading at very very attractive levels. This should touch Rs200 levels today or tommorow.

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