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Are our hopes high in the market or is it immature?

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wappula
widanage
Monster
seyon
kam2011
econ
Fresher
lakymahesh
SL.Market
Gaja
Antonym
Slstock
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smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Are we really expecting the market to move up soon or is this market immature? or importantly are we immature not to understand this funny behaviour? Wink
There are so many moves on illiquids, bull#$#% companies where Qtr-Qtr losses go infront of their names and companies.. Companies announce freaking rights issues and suddenly emerge winners.. on the other hand good banks letting the smaller investors down by amending the rights issues as they wish time to time..

I only see companies with growth prospects, future value go down everyday.. Theres no end to this..
See wats happening to LOLC, DIMO, LCEY... to name a few..

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

smallville wrote:Are we really expecting the market to move up soon or is this market immature? or importantly are we immature not to understand this funny behaviour? Wink
There are so many moves on illiquids, bull#$#% companies where Qtr-Qtr losses go infront of their names and companies.. Companies announce freaking rights issues and suddenly emerge winners.. on the other hand good banks letting the smaller investors down by amending the rights issues as they wish time to time..



I only see companies with growth prospects, future value go down everyday.. Theres no end to this..
See wats happening to LOLC, DIMO, LCEY... to name a few..


Yes every other share but fundamentals are going up time to time but good ones are making us losses everyday.

Agree this short term ( actually medium term) price depreciations are quite depressing specially to see %&%&^ shares go up.

But hold solid companies long term and we will be the victors.Patience is the key so the weeds will self mutilate themselves to learn their lessons. Right now the way %&^%^& is going up it seems the idiom "even to kill dogs to make money" is okay.

I saw an article even foriegners are worried about manipulation and insider deals at CSE. CSE, SEC and investors( should I say gamblers)both need to mature to sustain this market.

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

1. Forget the ASI & MPI; they are probably flawed anyway.
2. Look at the specific companies instead. Get rid of the junk in your portfolio.
3. Remember: You are not just buying shares; you are buying part-ownership of a company.
4. Therefore, buy only businesses that you understand.
5. Do not wait for rallies. Stop chasing bubbles.
6. Start thinking long term. It takes time for a caterpillar to become a butterfly.
7. Buy and hold. Don't even look for selling opportunities.
8. Buy only fundamentally strong companies. That means profitable growth and an attractive asset base.
9. Analyze the quarterly results diligently. If performance is great, buy more; if not, reduce your exposure. Keep validating your assumptions.
10. Lock up your shares for a year and throw away the key!
If you follow these rules - In one year from now, you will be a richer and calmer investor. Smile



Last edited by Antonym on Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:52 pm; edited 1 time in total

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Antonym wrote:1. Forget the ASI & MPI; they are probably flawed anyway.
2. Look at the specific companies instead. Get rid of the junk in your portfolio.
3. Remember: You are not just buying shares; you are buying part-ownership of a company.
4. Therefore, buy only businesses that you understand.
5. Do not wait for rallies. Stop chasing bubbles.
6. Start thinking long term. It takes time for a catepillar to become a butterfly.
7. Buy and hold. Don't even look for selling opportunities.
8. Buy only fundamentally strong companies. That means profitable growth and an attractive asset base.
9. Analyze the quarterly results diligently. If performance is great, buy more; if not, reduce your exposure. Keep validating your assumptions.
10. Lock up your shares for a year and throw away the key!
If you follow these rules - In one year from now, you will be a richer and calmer investor. Smile

fully agree with friend, i used to invest keeping 3 year time frame, it paid off for me very well

SL.Market

SL.Market
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Close Monitoring In This Type of market will win..

Remember there is not fundementals to support for the specific shares as many discussed above..

Remember my findings

ATL.R 75% up
Blue 75% up
Mara 30% up
Madu 20% up
East 15% up

But I am little sideline thesedays in the highlighting my finding to the forum

Happy Trading

lakymahesh


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Antonym wrote:1. Forget the ASI & MPI; they are probably flawed anyway.
2. Look at the specific companies instead. Get rid of the junk in your portfolio.
3. Remember: You are not just buying shares; you are buying part-ownership of a company.
4. Therefore, buy only businesses that you understand.
5. Do not wait for rallies. Stop chasing bubbles.
6. Start thinking long term. It takes time for a caterpillar to become a butterfly.
7. Buy and hold. Don't even look for selling opportunities.
8. Buy only fundamentally strong companies. That means profitable growth and an attractive asset base.
9. Analyze the quarterly results diligently. If performance is great, buy more; if not, reduce your exposure. Keep validating your assumptions.
10. Lock up your shares for a year and throw away the key!
If you follow these rules - In one year from now, you will be a richer and calmer investor. Smile

very true . . . . .

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator

SL.Market - well, good job on the findings. A committed trader will have greatly benefited by those.

but, it is not just right for investors. There are people who can't be in front of a machine all the time to monitor. some even wont have the time to check after work. If they get too frustrated by the quick movements they are going to lose.

Antonym's points are excellent for an investor.

econ

econ
Global Moderator

yeah in cse we need to be in front of a machine all the time. otherwise we are too late. Its too fast that prices get up and then go down. if you away for few more hours you miss the rally.

kam2011


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

npp wrote:SL.Market - well, good job on the findings. A committed trader will have greatly benefited by those.

but, it is not just right for investors. There are people who can't be in front of a machine all the time to monitor. some even wont have the time to check after work. If they get too frustrated by the quick movements they are going to lose.

Antonym's points are excellent for an investor.



I think for the investors who cant be seated in front of the computer during the cse working time best option is investing in Fundermantaly strong medium and long term stocks.

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator

econ wrote:yeah in cse we need to be in front of a machine all the time. otherwise we are too late. Its too fast that prices get up and then go down. if you away for few more hours you miss the rally.

unless you want to take that extra risk to get exorbitant profits, you don't have to do that. I believe that a decent gain can be made in the mid to long term. All depends on your expectations in life

seyon


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Antonym wrote:1. Forget the ASI & MPI; they are probably flawed anyway.
2. Look at the specific companies instead. Get rid of the junk in your portfolio.
3. Remember: You are not just buying shares; you are buying part-ownership of a company.
4. Therefore, buy only businesses that you understand.
5. Do not wait for rallies. Stop chasing bubbles.
6. Start thinking long term. It takes time for a caterpillar to become a butterfly.
7. Buy and hold. Don't even look for selling opportunities.
8. Buy only fundamentally strong companies. That means profitable growth and an attractive asset base.
9. Analyze the quarterly results diligently. If performance is great, buy more; if not, reduce your exposure. Keep validating your assumptions.
10. Lock up your shares for a year and throw away the key!
If you follow these rules - In one year from now, you will be a richer and calmer investor. Smile


Hi Antonym

Great advises for the investors. Thanks. I am trying to reduce my speculative counters these days and switching to investment.

Happy Trading

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Antonym wrote:1. Forget the ASI & MPI; they are probably flawed anyway.
2. Look at the specific companies instead. Get rid of the junk in your portfolio.
3. Remember: You are not just buying shares; you are buying part-ownership of a company.
4. Therefore, buy only businesses that you understand.
5. Do not wait for rallies. Stop chasing bubbles.
6. Start thinking long term. It takes time for a caterpillar to become a butterfly.
7. Buy and hold. Don't even look for selling opportunities.
8. Buy only fundamentally strong companies. That means profitable growth and an attractive asset base.
9. Analyze the quarterly results diligently. If performance is great, buy more; if not, reduce your exposure. Keep validating your assumptions.
10. Lock up your shares for a year and throw away the key!
If you follow these rules - In one year from now, you will be a richer and calmer investor. Smile
Great advices for an investor. +Rep from me.

widanage


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Antonym wrote:1. Forget the ASI & MPI; they are probably flawed anyway.
2. Look at the specific companies instead. Get rid of the junk in your portfolio.
3. Remember: You are not just buying shares; you are buying part-ownership of a company.
4. Therefore, buy only businesses that you understand.
5. Do not wait for rallies. Stop chasing bubbles.
6. Start thinking long term. It takes time for a caterpillar to become a butterfly.
7. Buy and hold. Don't even look for selling opportunities.
8. Buy only fundamentally strong companies. That means profitable growth and an attractive asset base.
9. Analyze the quarterly results diligently. If performance is great, buy more; if not, reduce your exposure. Keep validating your assumptions.
10. Lock up your shares for a year and throw away the key!
If you follow these rules - In one year from now, you will be a richer and calmer investor. Smile


Good advise + Rep from me just wanted to add few things from my opinion.

1. Have two accounts
2. Invest 70%-80% one account as per Antonym's philosophy.
3. Don't even bother to read the monthly CDS statement but keep the eyes open
4. Balance into the second account with online trading.
5. Try to follow the technical analysis and get in to the train early. (If this is difficult try to follow the penny shares)
6. Don't be greedy get out at a reasonable return.


This is what I practice and I sleep well. I do not have a time to sit on the computer throughout the day to trade but I still gain on my 25% trading portfolio.

SL.Market

SL.Market
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Antonym wrote:1. Forget the ASI & MPI; they are probably flawed anyway.
2. Look at the specific companies instead. Get rid of the junk in your portfolio.
3. Remember: You are not just buying shares; you are buying part-ownership of a company.
4. Therefore, buy only businesses that you understand.
5. Do not wait for rallies. Stop chasing bubbles.
6. Start thinking long term. It takes time for a caterpillar to become a butterfly.
7. Buy and hold. Don't even look for selling opportunities.
8. Buy only fundamentally strong companies. That means profitable growth and an attractive asset base.
9. Analyze the quarterly results diligently. If performance is great, buy more; if not, reduce your exposure. Keep validating your assumptions.
10. Lock up your shares for a year and throw away the key!
If you follow these rules - In one year from now, you will be a richer and calmer investor. Smile

Antonym..

Those are very good directions not only new comers but also for others as well.
I am very sure one who follow this will be benifite within a year time.
Thank you so much
Happy Trading

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Antonym wrote:1. Forget the ASI & MPI; they are probably flawed anyway.
2. Look at the specific companies instead. Get rid of the junk in your portfolio.
3. Remember: You are not just buying shares; you are buying part-ownership of a company.
4. Therefore, buy only businesses that you understand.
5. Do not wait for rallies. Stop chasing bubbles.
6. Start thinking long term. It takes time for a caterpillar to become a butterfly.
7. Buy and hold. Don't even look for selling opportunities.
8. Buy only fundamentally strong companies. That means profitable growth and an attractive asset base.
9. Analyze the quarterly results diligently. If performance is great, buy more; if not, reduce your exposure. Keep validating your assumptions.
10. Lock up your shares for a year and throw away the key!
If you follow these rules - In one year from now, you will be a richer and calmer investor. Smile

Good one Antonym.

wappula

wappula
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Antonym wrote:1. Forget the ASI & MPI; they are probably flawed anyway.
2. Look at the specific companies instead. Get rid of the junk in your portfolio.
3. Remember: You are not just buying shares; you are buying part-ownership of a company.
4. Therefore, buy only businesses that you understand.
5. Do not wait for rallies. Stop chasing bubbles.
6. Start thinking long term. It takes time for a caterpillar to become a butterfly.
7. Buy and hold. Don't even look for selling opportunities.
8. Buy only fundamentally strong companies. That means profitable growth and an attractive asset base.
9. Analyze the quarterly results diligently. If performance is great, buy more; if not, reduce your exposure. Keep validating your assumptions.
10. Lock up your shares for a year and throw away the key!
If you follow these rules - In one year from now, you will be a richer and calmer investor. Smile

thank you very match your ideas very attractive keep following.

mono

mono
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

look guys the smart people will win. the market maybe flat but there is money to be made.

I've been consistently making good money since early april. Be smart about where you invest, let go of stock that are not exhibiting what you were expecting them exhibit.

themask

themask
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

mono wrote:look guys the smart people will win. the market maybe flat but there is money to be made.

I've been consistently making good money since early april. Be smart about where you invest, let go of stock that are not exhibiting what you were expecting them exhibit.

Can you be my investment adviser? Very Happy

suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Most investors make money when markets are flat and on a down ward slope, if they select a stock they will stick to it and by more when there is blood in the market. How ever advice is when the market is dipping collect your chosen stocks in small qty's. This will be not possible if you are a day trader or a short term trader.

StocksWatch


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

@ Antonym - good insight for an investor. Thanks.

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