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61VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:31 pm

jake


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
wow what a calculation.DP might have missed this.lol
He will fire the chief accountant and hire you if he sees this.

62VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:40 pm

cmnet123


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@Akalanka wrote:Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

What is this calculation . i cant understand Question Question can you explain more Very Happy

If We holds a 1 VONE share we own 51% of 1 RCL share 51% of 1 LFIN sahre & 15% of 1 SAMP share. To have a true value we need to consider the individual market prices of each share for example as to buy a RCL share 158.7 has to be spent. Hope you get it. IF i'm wrong please correct me..aswel

63VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:44 pm

chamith


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
lol...
lol!

64VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:52 pm

Capt


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Smile
The Greg must be trading at;
2075 * 0.64 = 1327 ONLY because of their 64% stake in Colombo Pharmacy.
I don't know whether you are joking, trying to manipulate or really don't understand how to calculate.

65VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:07 pm

schacha


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
This must b the calculation methodology used by most retailers and that's why share price go sky even LOFC went up to 22. Very Happy
Regulators here is the point.
Just teach the retailers how to calculate share value. No need further rules and restrictions to control the market. Very Happy
It was not the manipulation. Very Happy

66VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:13 pm

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
one of my friend got 4000 from 8000 he applied. lucky guy...
obviously he is an employee...

67VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:19 pm

Rajitha

Rajitha
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t5916-shoe-shine-boys
No wonder about the SL market!!

68VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:50 pm

Hiru


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

Dear friend, I do not tell you are wrong or right, but I hope you would be a successful investor if you can read more about company valuations, specially the companies up for listing. I am not going to explain anything in detail as these things can be learnt by your self if you search in Google.

These valuation models are used to determine Ordinary Shares of a Company.

1. P/E Ratio method
2. Dividend Valuation Method
3. Net Assets Value method
There are some more methods and you will see them if you are eager to study.

I believe you are not going to take the controlling power of the company at this IPO, so all three methods can be used if you know the basics and variables needed to each method.

However, you need to consider other factors also and if you give more weight to other factors influencing share prices I hope you would reach your suggested answer, my prediction is well below that.

69VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:03 am

swarnasana


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Hiru wrote:
@cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

Dear friend, I do not tell you are wrong or right, but I hope you would be a successful investor if you can read more about company valuations, specially the companies up for listing. I am not going to explain anything in detail as these things can be learnt by your self if you search in Google.

These valuation models are used to determine Ordinary Shares of a Company.

1. P/E Ratio method
2. Dividend Valuation Method
3. Net Assets Value method
There are some more methods and you will see them if you are eager to study.

I believe you are not going to take the controlling power of the company at this IPO, so all three methods can be used if you know the basics and variables needed to each method.

However, you need to consider other factors also and if you give more weight to other factors influencing share prices I hope you would reach your suggested answer, my prediction is well below that.

Very Good. Telling him the correct way...

70VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:10 am

alexd


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
VONE shares yet to show up in my CDAX pf !!!

71VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:52 am

DK


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
cmnet,
Read Hiru's reply at http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t6361-vone-1st-day-price-calculation#42744.

The method you have used is correct for valuing some types of assets (and therefore stocks) but is dead wrong for others. Unfortunately in the case of VONE, it's the latter.

The method you use is what is used to value indexed funds. Why does it work there? Because by definition, the fund is nothing more than a bunch of stocks put together. You are doing nothing more than to buy a piece of that. So the valuation of the fund is exactly the price of ths shares (well there would be some commissions and other fees applied, but you get the idea).

For a company, that mechanism does not work. Why? Because holding on to other shares would not be the only action it would do. In case of VONE, they are going to build a hotel. And the share prices of the companies it hold doesnt make a material difference because they wont be selling it out.

72VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:58 am

sanjeewa88

sanjeewa88
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
You can't value the share by using this mathematical calculation.

Actually if you want to calculate it mathematically consider the number of shares them.

But remember it never gives you a real valuation.

73VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:00 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@cmnet123 wrote:According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected.

My friend, I am presuming you are doing this calculation as you are not aware of the correct methods and not for any other reason.

As VOL is listed under Diversified sector,

a) look at it current EPS
b) define a reasonable PE compared to sector and future growth

and calculate it value. You can also consider the NAV also and look at ROE, PEG ratio etc.

Above method is not the correct way.


74VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:01 am

rizjiji


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
My dfn pf still does not show VONE... is it ok

75VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:31 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@rizjiji wrote:My dfn pf still does not show VONE... is it ok

Mine too hasnt updated yet. They will update after 9 a.m

76VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:35 am

maalinda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
are you serious dude ??? what a calculation... LOL.. seriously i should not laugh. but cant stop.

77VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:55 am

RichDad

RichDad
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
That's the way a professional would do it. Well done Hiru. Positive Rep. And thanks slstock.

78VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:13 am

alexd


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
@alexd wrote:VONE shares yet to show up in my CDAX pf !!!

Finally! Its now in my pf.

79VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:16 am

pdgsuranga

pdgsuranga
Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
VONE will be big movement. I guess it will reach.....60/=

80VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:19 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Mine not yet.

81VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VONE What will happen? Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:22 am

ranga


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic


@ 9.19am
12.5mil buyers and 23.5mil Sellers. Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad

82VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:23 am

PGNN


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
"VONE 1st day Price Calculation?
by cmnet123 Yesterday at 10:23 pm

According to the market value of its subsidiaries VOne should have a market price as follows.
As @ 2011/07/07 closing price
RCL-158.7
LFIN-181.40
SAMP-242

Then VONE PRICE= RCL*51%+LFIN*51%+ SAMP*15%
=158.7*0.51+181.40*0.51+242*0.15
=209.75 almost 210

I have not considered the investments on Delmege and Orient Garment...Please make me correct if this value is not true.I think this share is having much value than we think(most of them saying 60-65 worth). Is it worth to sell a share having a more worth than we think? Your Valuable comments are expected."
bounce

This is from http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t6361-vone-1st-day-price-calculation#42800

83VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:26 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@swan03 wrote:Mine not yet.

At last.. Yes its there Very Happy

84VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:28 am

alexd


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
FYI

VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Cdax_i11

85VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:55 am

Amilasri


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
VONE highest 38.50...what will be for softlogic...

86VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty VONE trading price Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:07 pm

UNI


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Do something for Vone on Monday...please manipulate...

87VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:09 pm

nirmal_g


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
Will VONE be like LGL? come down upto IPO price and then shoot up after few days? experts pl advice

88VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:15 pm

duke


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
They already are trying.
Almost 80% of the buy orders are fake. Look at the last buy orders at 40 and 50 cents.

Qty price Splits
116,600 10.00 5
100,000 5.00 1
500,000 1.10 1
200,000 1.00 2
100,000 0.70 1
1,000,000 0.60 1
12,002,500 0.50 3
11,735,500 0.40 3

89VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty Re: VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:20 pm

tkc

tkc
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Still market is bearish for me. So lets wait and see. But I expected lot more from VONE after LOFC trading. Smile

90VALLIBEL ONE PLC (VONE.N0000) - Page 3 Empty ohhhh Vone what happend...... Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:22 pm

UNI


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Will this come to 25 level by next week?

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