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ThilinaM


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
1 - Fundamentals
2. Technicals
3. Market tone

Thease type of forums will give you what is the investors sentiment (market tone) thats it.

102Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:16 am

ThilinaM


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Example analysis - When at price 12 access was at best fundamental scores huge div yield/ at price 12 it was a technical low low / everyone said it will go up after election. all the 3 i mentioned mached and u dobled your value.

your best profited but lowest risk trades will come from matching all.

103Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:31 pm

ColomboCSE


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
i'm also really confused why Mr. Perera won't buy HAYLEYS @140-146 level...
But he bought  HAYLEYS when it move to 180...
If he buy HAYLEYS @147 easily he can save 14M...

104Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:52 pm

Beta1


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Sell both and buy HAYC. 
HAYC good potential company. They have quarter on quater growth. So far they have earned Rs. 850mn.we can hope good result for next two quarters also.we can enjoy good dividend.see accounts.

105Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:47 pm

Rare


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
@Asoka Samarakone wrote: your losses without sinking in it

Recognize Trends. Only takes “educated” risks!
Stocks don’t go down and stay down because of stories, tips, or people’s opinions; they go down for specific reasons. Find those reasons, and then act on your own knowledge.
Don’t let unfamiliar terms scare you.
Risk and return are married, and they’re never going to get divorced. There is no return without risk.
Stock markets can make your money work for you. All you need to do is to push in your earned cash at the right place, right time and right price.
Take care and all the best!
Happy trading

True. Train your mind and emotions for investing success. Learn how investors deal with mental blocks that undermine success. Accepting and using the approach of successful investors gives us the way to manage investing psychology. Successful investors have personal maturity. Knowledge is the base of their approach to investing and the stock market.

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
???

107Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty normally investors do not waste divident Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:18 am

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
when there is a divident investors will have opportunety to have better investment alternatives. divident taxes should be reduces

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Directors robbers related party robers should be sent to prison. most of companys this happening.

External Auditors should only check related party payments and director payrolls

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Simple truth is they fraud tax. if they come to stock market there will be more transperancy and have to pay more taxes.

Main way to hide tax is situation of few companys

A - Cutting and sewing one company
B - Inventory another company
C - Selling one company (Tax heaven country)

assume if they come  stock market they pay 28% tax 

What They do is they sell A to B less profit margin like 3%
B to C at margin like 3%

C company will sell to final customer at huge margin like 20% and that tax is not come to srilanka.
Income tax pepartment and PWC auditors know this but they may take bribe and do not revel this.

srilanka top apparel exporters are like this . they cant do this game if they come to stock market

110Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:16 am

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
another way is costing huge IT and consulatancy fee to financials and that IT fee etc will go directly to owners pocket

111Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:31 am

ColomboCSE


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@TilinaM

 just imagine if you have company did you listed in CSE with this tax system and rules ?
Actually i'm not... I think

1)minimum public holding need to be change  

2)tax need to be paid according to NAV
Ex: If NAV to LKR100 then profit is more than 25% then ok to pay tax with current sri lanka situation B'cos "sri lankan rupee depreciation, inflation"
that's why most sri lankan companies not grow yearly

3)need to have good rules and law in CSE and sri lanka.

112Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:46 am

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@ColomboCSE - 100% agree taxes should be based against NAV .most of companys Price return 20% but NAV return is below 10% beter to put FD

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Crappy and lazy managemnt.
born robbers. new comers do not touch this. RHL only profit jenerating business is revaluing there Propety high may be by bribing valuer. no any business. all cash flow go to directors pocket

114Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:13 am

ColomboCSE


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@ThilinaM
According to your comments in this forum i can't believe did you invested LAUGFS  Shocked Shocked Shocked

115Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:47 am

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@colomboCSE - which comments?? i did the mistake in 6 year ago men. i sold all last month

116Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:26 pm

ColomboCSE


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@ThilinaM
I did not mean any any particular comment Thilina. what i mean was the members comment this forum we can get some idea that member knowledge about stock market and how he or she invested in stocks... according to your comments in this forum you have read several good books.
(I still read few books compare to you... Smile )
that's why i have wonder you also invested LAUGFS... 
but "6 year ago" then i can understand... 

117Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:31 pm

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Ah . at that time i throwed money on broker comment with 5 minute analysis of fundamentals. no technical analysis. i only followed NAV. 

6 year ago i was a real idiot. with the finance degree i thought i can crack the market (it was the most stupid thought and  achedemic education what so ever will not prepare a person to stock market)

after 6 years what i lurnt is lurning lurning lurning dicipline dicipline dicipline stamina stamina stamina

now im little bit improved . 0% to 3%% have to go another 97%

If finance theories are correct CFAs and PHD finance guys should be billioneers  jocolor jocolor jocolor 
only way to success is to study market history like a story and study strategies and failures by best investors

118Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:41 pm

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
market is highly dinamic you cant use same theory again and again and gain profit.
we should find out new storys . most profitable investments fudamentals /Technicals and market sentiment come in line together. find out best fundamentals / technical all time lows /possitive sentiment
when invest in long term.

not like those days i will take mutch time to buy even 10 cent tick matter to me. some time i put order deleate again put deleate many times some times i put orders 10 cents by 10 cents and find the price in the range. i do this for even im thinking to hold life time

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
world best investors like Ray dalio do meditation a lot. dammika perera also did yogi meditation for few years .
Understading the reality will reduce your greedyness and reduce your imotions. also it will increase financial risk taking behaviour. when you are poor you will be motivated by money. when you are becoming rich you will not be motivated by money. most of this forum discuss about 20% (analysis part). without becoming dicipline and without reducing love for money you cant be success in investing. 

Grandmasters of this game are not 160+IQ people. Grandmasters of this game are highly diciplined people.

120Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:45 pm

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
ones warren buffet said if you have 160 IQ please give 25 to another person. IQ and advanced analysis will not work here. go with common sence basic mathematics regorus lurning and dicipline

121Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:09 pm

KavinduTM

KavinduTM
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Yes doing meditation is good for anyone whether he is an investor or not.Attitudes and discipline matters but analysis also important as investor is nothing without an analysis. And i think attitude matters only 60% when investing. we have to analyse. However there will be no investors in this world if they don't love money.

Haha yeah greediness will affect bad in investors. Like u didn't sell SAMP even when u were having more than 100% profit Wink

122Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:16 pm

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@kavindu - I cant predict short term markets . i dont know wether there are people like that (if thre they should be insiders) so i stick with my strategy. I hold good companys in long term. do time to time trades when im 90%+ sure.


Real investors are no greedy. greedy people are ametures. most of super rich people are not love with money. warren buffet have given 99% of money to charity same as bill gates . i may be do it someday.

There are analysis but complex mathematics will not work in market. simple mathematics and better understanding of company will work in long term. high level maths will work only you doing flash trading (HFT). btw HFT is not available in SL.

123Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:19 pm

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
I have Studied Lagrangian multiples/jargobians and vector calculas in my degree program Bsc finance usjp. those bull shit will not work. i dont know there are people who try those things and still success. my opinion is advanced mathematics will be useless when long term investing

124Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:05 pm

KavinduTM

KavinduTM
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@ThilinaM wrote:@kavindu - I cant predict short term markets . i dont know wether there are people like that (if thre they should be insiders) so i stick with my strategy. I hold good companys in long term. do time to time trades when im 90%+ sure.


Real investors are no greedy. greedy people are ametures. most of super rich people are not love with money. warren buffet have given 99% of money to charity same as bill gates . i may be do it someday.

There are analysis but complex mathematics will not work in market. simple mathematics and better understanding of company will work in long term. high level maths will work only you doing flash trading (HFT). btw HFT is not available in SL.
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U are against analysis. That's why u cant predict the short term markets. We can predict the short term market with a good advanced analysis.

125Investment Strategy - Page 6 Empty Re: Investment Strategy Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:07 pm

KavinduTM

KavinduTM
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@ThilinaM wrote:I have Studied Lagrangian multiples/jargobians and vector calculas in my degree program Bsc finance usjp. those bull shit will not work. i dont know there are people who try those things and still success. my opinion is advanced mathematics will be useless when long term investing

Yeah. but the problem is here.

Is it worthy to do long time investing in CSE? Even when most of companies don't pay a good dividend. ( Some are don't even pay a coin )

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