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21NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:09 pm

pathfinder


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@ccsentha wrote:
what are u talking? simply companies cannot give free shares to depositors. If they give, normally they'll minus that amount from there deposits. When companies cannot repay the depositors that's what they do.

NBSL is a company of a collapsed ceylinco group
who told you this free share issue?
X given for depositors for their deposits and for interest because they don't have money to pay back.
I think TFC has done this before.

22NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:47 pm

sriranga


Co-Admin
@pathfinder wrote:
I think TFC has done this before.
Yes they did.
http://www.cse.lk/cmt/uploadAnnounceFiles/9461285819463_449.pdf

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

23NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:16 pm

Chinwi


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
They do not have money to pay you.

-------That means, empty pocket.

Hence they give shares.

-------  That means, you become the owner of the empty pocket.

24NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:24 pm

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@Chinwi wrote:They do not have money to pay you.

-------That means, empty pocket.

Hence they give shares.

-------  That means, you become the owner of the empty pocket.

Couldn't stop laughing friend, they wanted buy more companies as well, how are they going to fund it?

25NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:13 pm

ccsentha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@pathfinder wrote:
@ccsentha wrote:
what are u talking? simply companies cannot give free shares to depositors. If they give, normally they'll minus that amount from there deposits. When companies cannot repay the depositors that's what they do.

NBSL is a company of a collapsed ceylinco group
who told you this free share issue?
X given for depositors for their deposits and for interest because they don't have money to pay back.
I think TFC has done this before.

agree with that mate. But in the forum the way it's mentioned, it looks as if it's gona be given free/bonus

26NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Nation Lanka Finance (CSF) Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:05 pm

Thushara Ayya

Thushara Ayya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Dear all,
Do you know the reason for the down turn... Is any thing wrong with this counter...Pl share your valuable comments....
Thanks.

27NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:11 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Check fundamentals. I would wait and see how "good" this quarter is.

If you search the forum there were so many promotions predicting the moon when this was Rs 11. Some said so many news will come next week

Here is a intersting topic.
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t29161-csf-gandada-epada

28NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:22 pm

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Most of the CSF promotors and fortune tellers actively particpated in the past disappeared from the forum for long time.

Samething happened in the past to GREG, BLUE etc...

Note: Nowadays couple of guys promoting some shares (may be good price at this moment (?) or immediate past) which they have in their PFs.

29NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:26 pm

rainmaker


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Where is the sexy Professional? Razz

30NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:31 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
The one who said to "Sawal pitin Aran Dapan. Kauru gaththe nathath mama gannam. "
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t29161p25-csf-gandada-epada#171580

@rainmaker wrote:Where is the sexy Professional? Razz

31NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:13 pm

Jana

Jana
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Thushara Ayya wrote:Dear all,
Do you know the reason for the down turn... Is any thing wrong with this counter...Pl share your valuable comments....
Thanks.

Right issue rumour going on... so the price go down...

Already I burnt my hand with CSF W and N ... huge lost (for me) may be that one small amount for you guys... I feel to jump in front of the Train... Its happened to me in 2003 as well... then I come back from that ...
Still I feel I can come from this loss... will see... but unfortunately I have some more other warrants.. So I am very scared...

32NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:42 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@Jana wrote:
Still I feel I can come from this loss... will see... but unfortunately I have some more other warrants.. So I am very scared...

jana I don;t know what to tell you. How many times we repeated not to play with specualtives too much, Yet you like to . I think you have own up to your loss.

What other warrants you have and what price.

33NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:11 pm

Jana

Jana
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:
@Jana wrote:
Still I feel I can come from this loss... will see... but unfortunately I have some more other warrants.. So I am very scared...

jana I don;t know what to tell you. How many times we repeated not to play with specualtives too much, Yet you like to .  I think you have own up to your loss.

What other warrants you have and what price.

yes Slstock I ignore your and some other members advise...

I also... one of them who want to make money from sudden change.. high risk...its happened

I made money from all crap Eg: HUEJ...ALUB..SINI..ASPH...ASHA...GEST..SIL..BINN..Finally RGEM) apart from it MORI..PHAR.. ALLI..NEH...HARI...So I love illiquid crap...

I never trade with GREG N or W up to 2011 Sep .. then I thought this is the bottom level so I enter now.. but its going to hell..

now I have some GREG W3 @ 2.20 W6 @3.04 CLPL.W13 @ 3.60... all in loss now...

apart from that MAL.X 4.60 COMD @ 107...

34NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:41 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Jana, when you play with warrants atleast go with the one that expire the last. ( 2015)

If there is a hopeful run this year, you might be able to cut losses or maybe gain with some luck

@Jana wrote:
@slstock wrote:
@Jana wrote:
Still I feel I can come from this loss... will see... but unfortunately I have some more other warrants.. So I am very scared...

jana I don;t know what to tell you. How many times we repeated not to play with specualtives too much, Yet you like to .  I think you have own up to your loss.

What other warrants you have and what price.

yes Slstock I ignore your and some other members advise...

I also... one of them who want to make money from sudden change.. high risk...its happened

I made money from all crap Eg: HUEJ...ALUB..SINI..ASPH...ASHA...GEST..SIL..BINN..Finally RGEM) apart from it MORI..PHAR.. ALLI..NEH...HARI...So I love illiquid crap...

I never trade with GREG N or W up to 2011 Sep .. then I thought this is the bottom level so I enter now.. but its going to hell..

now I have some GREG W3 @ 2.20 W6 @3.04 CLPL.W13 @ 3.60... all in loss now...

apart from that MAL.X 4.60 COMD @ 107...

35NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:00 pm

Jana

Jana
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:Jana, when you play with warrants atleast go with the one that expire the  last. ( 2015)

If there is a hopeful  run this year, you might be able to cut losses or maybe gain with  some luck


yes.. Thanks Slstock .. I am also planning to keep GREG.W6 and reed of others .. I hope I can sell CLPL.W13 also with my cost..company in good position. may be CLPL convert their warrants successfully (may be)

36NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:00 pm

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
I really feel bad about Jana, who is like the live wire of this forum. My advice now is not to panic.

I was bit of lucky with G3. My advisor has sold @ 1.50 some weeks back with 20/10 cts loss. I blasted him that day. But I didn't buy back as I was concentrating with TJL and AEL.

I think GREG will be in subdued form for the moment as next month is the conversion month for the most cursed warrant in CSE, "G2". Apart from that all the penny stocks (good or bad) are in a bad run these days. CIFL and PC group shares have eroded the portfolios of penny lovers. So we have to understand all other penny stocks also under pressure.

My gut feeling is that some penny stocks do have good valuations now and can offer tremendous opportunities at these prices.

But always maintain a diversified portfolio. Jana, as you are a very experience person I hope you will recover your losses soon.

37NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:25 pm

Thushara Ayya

Thushara Ayya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Dear slstock and all the members....Thank you very much for the ideas...

38NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:46 am

Jana

Jana
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@hariesha wrote:I really feel bad about Jana, who is like the live wire of this forum. My advice now is not to panic.

But always maintain a diversified portfolio. Jana, as you are a very experience person I hope you will recover your losses soon.
Thanks hariesha!

As I said I play with lot of craps and make money as well ... some time loosing money also.. but this time unwanted loss.. and more careless..(100% Gamble with CSF) thats why I feel bad...

The main reason I entered these warrants because this is the bottom level (some of them bought GREG w2 W3 W6 more than 10/= 15/= level as well)

As you and Slstock said I can make some W6 (may be) if I have luck.. or I will swap these with good fundamental

39NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:13 pm

smayadunne


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@rainmaker wrote:Where is the sexy Professional? Razz
hey, i am here for u daling...afro 
bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce

DealKing

DealKing
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
It is anticipated that Hatton National Bank (HNB) will acquire a strategic stake in Nation Lanka Finance PLC (CSF) soon.

It is aaid that GEM Global Yield Fund LLC SCS (That has connection with Gregory Scott Newsome and Kosala Heengama of former Environmetal Resources Investments PLC (GREG) now Lanka Century Investments) that was yet to invest nearly Rs. 1.4 billion in CSF has not been a confirmed investment.GEM Global Yield Fund LLC SCS was to acquire a little over 29% stake of CSF.

However HNB has already received an license from Central Bank to start finance company. Thus market sources say that probably instead of starting a fresh finance company HNB may acquire and run Nation Lanka looking at synergies that HNB could get in to through the investment in CSF.



41NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:54 pm

lux2014

lux2014
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
I thought GEM Global Yield Fund did invest in Nation Lanka Finance (CSF). There were so many newspaper and web articles on this deal. Surprising.

42NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:51 am

StockGuru

StockGuru
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@lux2014 wrote:I thought GEM Global Yield Fund did invest in Nation Lanka Finance (CSF). There were so many newspaper and web articles on this deal. Surprising.

No even to my knowledge all the newspaper articles said GEM Global Yield Fund is going to invest...so they haven't invested yet...This is the problem in this country people just read headlines and come to conclusions...or read things partly...always read in full.

43NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:31 am

stevenapple


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@StockGuru wrote:
@lux2014 wrote:I thought GEM Global Yield Fund did invest in Nation Lanka Finance (CSF). There were so many newspaper and web articles on this deal. Surprising.

No even to my knowledge all the newspaper articles said GEM Global Yield Fund is going to invest...so they haven't invested yet...This is the problem in this country people just read headlines and come to conclusions...or read things partly...always read in full.

 Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad 

Harry82

Harry82
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Sampath bank will acquire a strategic stake in Nation Lanka Finance PLC (CSF) soon.

45NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:23 pm

indi009

indi009
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Harry82 wrote: Sampath bank will acquire a strategic stake in Nation Lanka Finance PLC (CSF) soon.


I thought it's HNB who's gonna acquire CSF

46NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:21 pm

Top Trader


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Someone few days back told HNB going to buy nation Lanka, now with sampath, same people sometime back promote nation Lanka warrants by saying csf.n will pass the exercise price, like they did with clpl

47NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:14 am

Eng Krishantha

Eng Krishantha
Expert
Expert
@Harry82 wrote: Sampath bank will acquire a strategic stake in Nation Lanka Finance PLC (CSF) soon.


really...
Is it your opinion...
or any news....

48NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:38 am

Harry82

Harry82
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
i think good choice. they have more than 20 branch network.

49NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:48 am

AAABoy

AAABoy
Moderator
Moderator
It is not Sampath Bank, Guaranteed it is HNB who gonna acquire CSF. But I wonder at which price they will do the deal, as CSF's NAV is just Rs. 0.64/-, Their stated capital is about Rs. 1.8Bn and Accumulated loss is around 1.7Bn. But they have more than Rs. 4Bn assets base, Anyway I don't think HNB would give a premium to CSF deal.


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50NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: NATION LANKA FINANCE PLC (CSF.N0000) Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:05 am

StockGuru

StockGuru
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@AAABoy wrote:It is not Sampath Bank, Guaranteed it is HNB who gonna acquire CSF. But I wonder at which price they will do the deal, as CSF's NAV is just Rs. 0.64/-, Their stated capital is about Rs. 1.8Bn and Accumulated loss is around 1.7Bn. But they have more than Rs. 4Bn assets base, Anyway I don't think HNB would give a premium to CSF deal.
 

HNB is out from the Deal, HNB has concluded a due diligence on CSF and they realized it is not worth so HNB bought Prime Grameen (Which was earlier known as Ceylinco Grameen)

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