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21I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:30 pm

cse.alpha


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Over 850 million PAP shares traded during week 6th - 10th June 2011.

A lot of this was day trading and churning, but PAP has only 500 million shares.

The major shareholder, Power Hub, said they sold 68 million shares on 9th June 2011, but I am surprised that no formal announcement has been made from any buyers buying more than 10% in PAP.

The SEC's Company Take-overs and Mergers Code requires disclosure of 10% stakes within 2 market days.

Press stories said that Emagewise (Dilith Jayaweera) bought 20% of PAP on 6th June 2011, but where is the disclosure then ? We are well past 2 market days.

Have they forgotten to disclose, or did they day trade and sell ? Do they have under 10% now ? What is the SEC doing about this ?

Who are the major shareholders of PAP now ? Power Hub Malaysia has only 28% after the sale.

Lots of unanswered questions, the answers to which may help decide what to do with PAP, fundamentals aside.

22I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:45 pm

themask


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Well the brokers always have something to say. Don't believe those idiots! Just ask yourself that whether the company can sustain the price levels in the long run before you buy any stock. If you are too lazy to analyze then always allocate a little portion for this type of speculative buys.

23I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:46 pm

themask


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
If Tubal has seen this, He would say the dumb money has been shaken.

24I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:23 pm

Monster


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@smallville wrote:This is what we've been telling for sometime.. Ppl dont know what they're buying.. Ant still they buy a big some of it and then worry when its dropped..
You guys should have the common sense of not buying bulks like HNWIs if ur not into an acquisition or interested on a director position. Wink
Simple facts.. whn u buy, do it little by little.. And avoid credit as much as possible these days..

OK.. the solution to ur problem is to dispose some of the other stocks and also a little bit of PAP as well to settle the charges..
Keep in mind to avoid these costly mistakes in future..
Most of the investors(???) do not bother in what stock they invest. They need is quick money. Due to that they may loose some hard earned money. I am pretty sure most of the investors, who chased EAST and BLUE have no idea about what kind of business activities they do. Even they don't worry about EPS or NAV. When we tried to enlighten this, they say "this is CSE". Our market should return to fundamental. Otherwise another market crash is no longer.

25I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:32 pm

Prince


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Suthar

So sorry about the situation. What has happened is already happened. Wonder whether I can help you out this situation. Shall we talk personally and seriously on this if you willing to ..?

26I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:26 pm

warren buff


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
some people deserve to loose.

27I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:03 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Monster wrote:
@smallville wrote:This is what we've been telling for sometime.. Ppl dont know what they're buying.. Ant still they buy a big some of it and then worry when its dropped..
You guys should have the common sense of not buying bulks like HNWIs if ur not into an acquisition or interested on a director position. Wink
Simple facts.. whn u buy, do it little by little.. And avoid credit as much as possible these days..

OK.. the solution to ur problem is to dispose some of the other stocks and also a little bit of PAP as well to settle the charges..
Keep in mind to avoid these costly mistakes in future..
Most of the investors(???) do not bother in what stock they invest. They need is quick money. Due to that they may loose some hard earned money. I am pretty sure most of the investors, who chased EAST and BLUE have no idea about what kind of business activities they do. Even they don't worry about EPS or NAV. When we tried to enlighten this, they say "this is CSE". Our market should return to fundamental. Otherwise another market crash is no longer.
Fundamental or Speculative.....I think we should keep an eye on price of a share and analyse whether it is over-valued,fairly-valued or under-valued and look at the trend of the market very very carefully and finally take the decision to invest or not by urself.

28I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:11 pm

ISURU

ISURU
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@rijayasooriya wrote:
@Monster wrote:
@smallville wrote:This is what we've been telling for sometime.. Ppl dont know what they're buying.. Ant still they buy a big some of it and then worry when its dropped..
You guys should have the common sense of not buying bulks like HNWIs if ur not into an acquisition or interested on a director position. Wink
Simple facts.. whn u buy, do it little by little.. And avoid credit as much as possible these days..

OK.. the solution to ur problem is to dispose some of the other stocks and also a little bit of PAP as well to settle the charges..
Keep in mind to avoid these costly mistakes in future..
Most of the investors(???) do not bother in what stock they invest. They need is quick money. Due to that they may loose some hard earned money. I am pretty sure most of the investors, who chased EAST and BLUE have no idea about what kind of business activities they do. Even they don't worry about EPS or NAV. When we tried to enlighten this, they say "this is CSE". Our market should return to fundamental. Otherwise another market crash is no longer.
Fundamental or Speculative.....I think we should keep an eye on price of a share and analyse whether it is over-valued,fairly-valued or under-valued and look at the trend of the market very very carefully and finally take the decision to invest or not by urself.
Yep agree with rijayasooriya. Also don't depend and don't trust your brokers 100%

29I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:29 pm

dr kiru005

dr kiru005
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@Suthar wrote:Badly need your help. I have more than 1MN PAP bought at 8. I'm dealing with 3 brokers, all said it will pass 10 very soon, but seems its geting delaying. What are your thoughts? loss is around 2.5MN Sad

don't sell it man it will be there at least next year.. if you sell it you will loose that money just close your eyes for 3 months.. you will get into a profit. i promise

30I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:37 pm

Asiri_I

Asiri_I
Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
@dr kiru005 wrote:
@Suthar wrote:Badly need your help. I have more than 1MN PAP bought at 8. I'm dealing with 3 brokers, all said it will pass 10 very soon, but seems its geting delaying. What are your thoughts? loss is around 2.5MN Sad

don't sell it man it will be there at least next year.. if you sell it you will loose that money just close your eyes for 3 months.. you will get into a profit. i promise
are you sure?

31I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:16 am

Suthar

Suthar
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Thanks all for your ideas.

32I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:20 am

Suthar

Suthar
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
What's the reason for this high selling pressure. Buyers seems to be not placing orders due to this?

What do you all think? Is it credit clearence?

33I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:00 am

Suthar

Suthar
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Freinds,

Today also the same. Very high selling pressure. Did you all get any good/bad news about PAP?

34I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:05 pm

Tiger

Tiger
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Suthar wrote:Freinds,

Today also the same. Very high selling pressure. Did you all get any good/bad news about PAP?


When a share shoots off the roof without any fundermental reason its bound to fall to the same value. That is what's happening.

35I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:18 pm

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
suthar sorry to say this, one thing if its went by one or two rupees then psot will not come at all, what u are doing is business and in business you should be ready to face profits as well as losses.

Trades like you are the most important persons for brokers and for big people, so in the future at least do some analysis before buying or selling

This is i have repeated again and again, if you miss what ever so called rally you will only lose the profit that u could have earned and your capital will remain intact, but if you bought at wrong price not only will failed to ended up with profit, your capital also will get lost. Again most of time i remind members if you doing day trading, do it with your own money and don't try with the credit

36I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:31 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert
curse of speculation Evil or Very Mad
you had to exit early,never be too greedy in speculation,sell off and quit as quickly as possible....

37I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:49 pm

nal 78


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
never believe brokers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

38I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:36 am

Suthar

Suthar
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Thnks all

39I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Tue May 26, 2015 9:49 pm

aran

aran
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
i just accidentally found this interesting discussion when i search for slstocks post new members please go trough this 
pap is still traded below 4 rupee last month i buy some @ 3.3
it went up to 4 and come back to 3.6 after the dividend payment

40I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help - Page 2 Empty Re: I'm Stuck with PAP. Please help Tue May 26, 2015 10:54 pm

BvsB

BvsB
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@aran wrote:i just accidentally found this interesting discussion when i search for slstocks post new members please go trough this 
pap is still traded below 4 rupee last month i buy some @ 3.3
it went up to 4 and come back to 3.6 after the dividend payment

Yes Aran,

They will be a run after they release quarterly financial report for sure.

More than 60 million shares traded within the month of May...
Keep an eye on this ....

GL

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