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61Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:06 pm

Chinwi


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@reader wrote:
@omegaplus wrote:

It should be regulate and make sure only if they pass same exam from  SL medical council , then they can practice as Drs.Nothing more , nothing less.Fair play?

So it will be a totally different institute to SAITM. And I guess it will be better if they introduce better entrance qualifications apart from deep pockets too. 

One thing I would like to see as a one solution to this mess,  they can offer some percentage, lets say 40% places as scholarships to next students who miss outs government university medical faculty at A/L. 
That will raise the quality of the institute  and results as well as it will offer better return to the country. 
End of the day we want to make sure the person who there to look after any Sri Lankan patient, have that ability.
True.. But we can never expect this from those money oriented people.. .

They have given 500 Million worth Scholarships, full and part , approx 20% of the students as per spokesman of SAITM.

Just watch this video to the end.

BTW I am not representing SAITM.

https://www.facebook.com/FFE.SriLanka/videos/1238879192816692/

62Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:04 pm

Chinwi


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Why I can't support the struggle against PMCs ?  

I have my own experience and observations during the struggle against Ragama PMC  .

It was many decades ago.  I didn't support any group but had  opportunity to experience the struggle and counter attacks from both parties.

Due to this unfortunate struggle the nation lost many doctors. Many young girls and boys  were taken to  torture  chambers and killed after doing all sort of things to them for weeks.  

I think everybody knows ill-famous Threemavithana case  where  nails were inserted to the skull of medical students by some elected members of UNP government.

After decades , now we can see the reality .  What happened to those so called Student Leaders who sent young people to the hell ?

I know many of those Leaders reappeared as capitalists and medical businessmen years later.

I reproduce this writing done by someone else who worked against private medical college as a medical student.

Is history  repeating again ?

දුප්පත් මහජනතාව වෙනුවෙන් හදවතේ බුර බරා නැගුණු කැක්කුම නිසා රාගම පෞද්ගලික වෛද්‍යපීඨයට එරෙහිව එදා උද්ඝෝෂණ සංවිධානය කළ වෛද්‍ය සිසු විරුවන්ගේ අද කල්කිරියාව...
written by වෛද්‍ය රුවන් එම්. ජයතුංග


පී.එම්.සී හෙවත් රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලය ආරම්භ කරනු ලැබුවේ 1980 දශකයේ මැද භාගයේ පමණය.
​1985 වසරේ දී මා සමග උසස් පෙළ විභාගය ලියූ හිරාන් චන්ද්‍රසේකර , චන්දික ( බිංජූරා) උසස් පෙළ ප්‍රතිඑල ඒමත් සමග රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලයට ගියහ​. අපගේ පන්තියේ සිටි රවී විජේසේකර , හෙයියන්තුඩුව ,සම්පත් රණවීර , සුමුදු හේවාවසම් දේශීය වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලවලට තේරුණහ​. මා මෙන්ම මංජුල පතිරාජ වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාව හැදෑරීම පිණිස විදේශ ගතවූහ​.

අප විදේශ ගතවී වසරක් පමණ යන විට රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලයට කොලඹ , පේරාදෙනිය , රුහුණ රජයේ වෛද්‍ය පීඨවල සිසුන් මෙන්ම අනෙකුත් රාජ්‍ය විශ්ව විද්‍යාල වල සිසුන්ද විරෝධතා දියත් කරන බව අපට ආරංචි විය​.
අප පළවන වසර භාෂා අධ්‍යන පාඨමාලාව කරන විට අපගේ වෛද්‍ය පීඨයේ සිටි ජේෂ්ඨ සිසුවෙකු වූ ලක්සිරි ධනංජය වෛද්‍යරත්න රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලයට එරෙහිව කරන සටනේදී අප රජයේ වෛද්‍ය පීඨවල සිසුන්ට සහාය දිය යුතු බව කියා විරෝධතා පෙත්සමකට අත්සන් ගත්තේය​. අපද රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලයට එරෙහිව පෙත්සම අත්සන් කොට ලංකාවේ වෛද්‍ය පීඨවල සිසුන්ට අපගේ සහයෝගිතාව පෙන්වූයෙමු.

මේ අතර සටන දිගින් දිගටම ඇවිලී ගිය අතර වෛද්‍ය පීඨවල සිසුන් කිහිප දෙනෙකු මරු දැකීමෙන් සහ රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලය රජයට පවරා ගැනීමෙන් සටන අවසන් වූ බව පසුව වාර්තා විය​.

මේ විරෝධතා වලින් දශක කීපයකට පසුව මට රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලයේ හිටපු සිසුන් මෙන්ම ඒ කාලයේ රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලයට එරෙහිව සටන් කල අතීත සිසු නායකයන් හමුවී තිබේ. එදා මෙදා අතර කාලය තුල බොහෝ දේවල් වෙනස්වී තිබේ.

නමුත් මම අපක්‍ෂපාතීව මගේ නීරීක්‍ෂණයන් සඳහන් කරමි.

රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලයට එරෙහිව අපගේ විනිට්සා වෛද්‍ය පීඨයේ පළමු වෙඩි මුරය පත්තු කල ජේෂ්ඨ සිසුවෙකු වූ ලක්සිරි ධනංජය w... වර්තමානයේදී විශේසඥ අධිකරණ වෛද්‍යවරයෙකු ලෙස සේවය කරයි. එකල රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලයට එරෙහිව සටන් කල දේශීය වෛද්‍ය පීඨ වල ඉගෙන ගත් අතීත සිසු නායකයන් කීප දෙනෙකු මට ලංකාවේ විවිධ රෝහල් වල හමු වී තිබේ.

පේරාදෙනිය වෛද්‍ය පීඨය නිම කල එක් සිසු නායකයෙකුගේ වෛද්‍ය වෘත්තික ක්‍රියා කලාපය මම මිනිපේ සෞඛ්‍යය වෛද්‍ය නිලධාරී ලෙස සේවය කල කාලයේ දුටුවෙමි.

දුප්පත් රෝගීන් ගේ අයිතිවාසිකම් වෙනුවෙන් මිනී පෙට්ටි ඔසවාගෙන උද්ඝෝෂණ වල ගිය ඔහු වෛද්‍යවරයෙකු වූ පසු රාජකාරී වේලාවේ තම නිල නිවසේදී පුද්ගලිකව රෝගීන් මුදලට බැලීය​. එසේම තම Private Practice (පීපී) එකට නාව දුප්පත් රෝගීන්ට රෝහලේදී ඇඳක් දුන්නේවත් ඔවුන්ව නිසියාකාරව බැලුවේත් නැත​. අසීමිත ලෙස පුද්ගලික සේවයේ යෙදෙමින් අනෙකුත් වෛද්‍යවරුන් ගේ ප්‍රතිකාර රෝගීන් ඉදිරියේ මෙන්ම කාර්‍ය මණ්ඩලය ඉදිරියේ විවේචනය කල ඔහු රෝහලේ කම්කරුවන් දෙදෙනෙකු යොදා ගනිමින් අනෙකුත් වෛද්‍යවරුන්ට එරෙහිව මඩ ප්‍රචාර ගෙන ගියේ තම වියාපාරය තව තවත් දියුණු කර ගැනීමේ අභිලාශයෙනි.

අරණායක ප්‍රදේශයෙන් පැමිණි මොහු මේ සා පිස්සුවෙන් මෙන් මුදල් පසුපස ලුහුබැන්දේ අළුත් මෝටර් රථයක් ගැනීමටත් නව නිවසක් තනා ගැනීමේ මූලික අභිලාශයෙන් බව මට වැටහුණි.

නිදහස් අධ්‍යාපනය රැක ගැනීම සඳහා උග්‍ර පී.එම්.සී විරෝධතාවක යෙදුනු මාතලේ රෝහලේ සිටි තවත් වෛද්‍යවරයෙකු මට සිහිපත් වේ.
ඔහු රෝහලේ සේවය කරන විට බෙහෙත් ගැනීමට පැමිණි දුප්පත් නමුත් රූමත් තරුණියක් දපනේ දමා ගත්තේය​. ඇයව තම නිල නිවාසයට ගෙන්වා ගත් ඔහු ඇය සමග අඹු සැමියන් ලෙස හැසිරුනේ ඇයව විවහා කර ගන්නා බවට පොරොන්දු දීමෙනි අවසානයේදී තම අශාවන් ඉෂ්ඨ කර ගැනීමෙන් පසුව ඔහු ඇයව නිල නිවාසයෙන් පළවා හැරියේය​. අතරමං වූ තරුණිය වස පානය කොට දිවි නසාගත්තාය​. ඇයගේ දුගී දෙමාපියන් මෙය එකල මාතලේ ඩී.එම්.ඕ වූ වෛද්‍ය සි... ජ... පැමිණිලි කලද ඔහු මේ කේස් එක යට ගසා චූදිත වෛද්‍යවරයා බේරා ගත්තේය​. පසු කාලයක වෛද්‍ය සි..  ජ..  පුද්ගලික හේතුවක් මත පී.එච්.අයි වරයෙකු විසින් මිරිස් ගලකින් පහර දීම නිසා මිය යන ලදි.

පීඑම්සී විරෝධී මෙන්ම නිදහස් සෞඛ්‍යය සේවාව වෙනුවෙන් පෙලපාලි ගිය උද්ඝෝෂණය කල අංකුර වෛද්‍යවරුන් පසු කාලයක දුප්පත් මිනිසුන් බෙහෙත් ගැනීමට පැමිණි විට ඔවුන් ගේ මුහුණ දෙසවත් නොබලා බෙහෙත් තුංඩුව දෙන අන්දම මම දුටුවෙමි.

එසේම ඔවුන් ශල්‍යකර්ම සඳහා බොහෝ මුදල් අය කොට දුගීන් ගේ රීරී මාංශය වූවද හූරා ගැනීමේ සමතුන් වූහ​. මෙසේ පරිනාමය වූ බොහෝ දෙනෙකු අතීතයේ සටන් කලේ පී එම් සී නම් යක්‍ෂයාගෙන් මෙරට ජනතාව බේරා ගැනීමටය​.

රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාල විරෝධතාව වෙනුවෙන් ත්‍රීමා විතාණ , වෙනුර , කොල්ලූරේ යන සිසුන් අකාලයේ මිය ගියහ​.

කොලඹ වෛද්‍ය පීඨයේ ත්‍රීමා විතාණ සමග එක කාමරයේ සිටි පීඑම්සී විරෝධතා කල එකල වෛද්‍ය සිසුවෙකු වූ අයෙක් අද වෛද්‍ය කළු කඩ මුදලාලි කෙනෙකි.

මේ සටන් පසුපස සිටි අවස්ථාවාදී දේශපාලකයන් පසු කාලයක මිලියන ගනන් ජනතා මුදල් හොරකම් කොට තම දරුවන් විදෙස් රට වල පුද්ගලික විශ්ව විද්‍යාල වලට යවති.

පොදුවේ බැලීමේදී රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලය විසින් බිහි කරන ලද වෛද්‍යවරු බොහෝ දෙනෙකු අද විශේෂඥ වෛද්‍යවරු ලෙස ලංකාවේ සේවය කරති. එසේම තවත් බොහෝ දෙනෙකු සාර්ථකව විදෙස් රට වල සේවයේ යෙදේ. රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලයට ගිය සිසු සිසුවියන් තුල ඉංග්‍රීසි භාෂා හැකියාවේ ප්‍රවීණත්වය නිසා ඔවුන්ට අපහසුවකින් තොරව පශ්චාත් උපාධි අධ්‍යනයේ යෙදීමට හැකිවූ බව මම අනුමාන කරමි. එසේම මට හමුවී ඇති පීඑම්සී වෛද්‍යවරු බොහෝ දෙනෙකු වෘත්තීය කුහකත්වයෙන් ,වෛද්‍ය ආචාර ධර්ම කඩ කිරීමෙන්, හීනමානතා සංකීර්ණයෙන් තොරය​. ඔවුන් තුල ලෝකය පිලිබඳ පෘථුල අදහස් පවතින්නේ ඔවුන් ලෝකයේ බොහෝ රටවල සංචාරය කොට තිබීම නිසා බව මම සිතමි.
මේ ලියවිල්ල පීඑම්සී එකේ වෛද්‍යවරුන් ඉතා ඉස්තරම් බව කියවෙන ලියවිල්ලක් නොවේ. මා මෙහිදී පෙන්වා දෙන්නට අදහස් කලේ එදා අපගේ විරෝධතාවන් සාධනීයද කියාය​.
අප කල යුත්තේ කුමක්ද ?  පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාල විනාශ කොට යසාගේ දියණිය මිය යාමට ඉඩ දුන් නරුම වෛද්‍යවරු මේ ක්‍රමය යටතේ ඇතිකිරීමද නැතහොත් මේ ක්‍රමය වඩාත් මානුශිකවාදී කිරීමද ?
~ වෛද්‍ය රුවන් එම්. ජයතුංග ~


End.
back to me:
I know another student leader who became a surgeon....  
රාගම පුද්ගලික වෛද්‍ය විද්‍යාලයට එරෙහිව ගිරිය කඩාගෙන කෑ ගසමින් සිසුන් පාරට දක්කා වෙඩි උණ් ඩයට බිලි දුන් තවත් එක් විප්ලවවාදී සමාජවාදී වීර ශිෂ්‍ය නායකයෙක්  හොරෙන් ම අතුරුදන්වී   පසුව ශල්‍යවෛද්‍යවරයකු බවට පත් වීය​. ඔහු S ... රෝහලේ paying wards සල්ලි කාර ස්ත්‍රීන් පැමිණි විට දරුණු රෝග ඇති බවට බොරුවට විනිශ්‍යය කර බොරුවට බඩ කපා මසා 60,000 බැගින් සාක්කුවට දමා ගන්න බව එම රොහලේම වෛද්‍යවරුන් අතර ප්‍රසිද්ධ රහසකි. සෑම සති අන්තයකම මෙවන් ඒවා 10 ක් වත් කිරීම ඔහුගේ සෙල්ලම.



As per my experience, these so called hardcore student leaders are the most selfish creatures in the batches. They hate good looking decent people coming form educated background.
After the student life also they behave like beasts. Selfish bastards.  
There struggle against PMCs is purely due to selfish reasons.

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omegaplus


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@omegaplus wrote:It's sad to see where we going with this. At the beginning it was about SAITM, Questions were,

1.Is SAITM good or bad? 
 

2.Should SAITM allowed to continue? 


3.Why SAITM don't maintain min standards ?  


4. As the way it's started illegal , what can be done? (Law and order should be same for everyone )


Why this became about poor and rich? It's so sad to see guys think like 16th century. It's not like high cast controlling others. In a way they insulting higher middle class and rich kids who get highest marks and go to medical faculties. Because most of Sri Lankan university students not from that poor families. 
Are you indirectly saying all rich kids are failing A/Ls? 
Other hand, how can you categorise all those are full of jealous , and hate. It's more like you are more jealous and hate, because what ever reason . 

Every individual have their own story. Every one should be judge by their actions , but not by their family , birth, or how rich or poor they are. 

specially if you are a buddhist , how can you think something like that, let alone saying it. These students are selected for universities. They not fighting for their rights, but future generations .

I agree, every part of society have different people. Some jealous , some hate each others, But some with compassion. But you can't categorise people just like that just because you think they poor.

What we need in a country , Law and order for everyone. 
Then basic human decency , how you treat each others regardless of anyones background, family status , or if they rich or poor. 


I don't think any decent person will argive against that or any poorest as they don't have anything to lose if that happen, but only few selfish minority will act against it as now happening in our country, because  they don't like playing fair. 



Where you Stand, do we need a country with Law and order same for every citizen?  Then, Just two questions. 


1.Is SAITM started according to right protocol or illegally? 
 
2.So should we act on law or cover it up? 


We are in a country seen RS 50,000.00 fined,  13 years old schooled girl for 8 stealing coconuts. 

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D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
SAITM problem mostly created by JVP and Some doctors who want to protect their monopoly

JVP with their present education policy will never come to power. They should change present education policy

All medical faculties of universities are not same Quality vice

Medical council or Ministry of Helth must conduct a exam before recruiting doctors

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Chinwi


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
1980s රාගම PMC එක ආසියාවේම නව පරිච්ඡේදයක්. ඒ වන විට මැලේසියාව​, බංග්ලාදේශ ආදී රටවල් ඕවට ප්‍රසිද්ධ වෙලා තිබුනේ නෑ.
ඒකෙ  මුල් බැච් එකටම    20% ක්ම පිටරට ලමයි ගෙන්න ගන්න පිලිවන් උනා.
අපේ රටට ඉහලට යන්න තිබුන තවත් මහඟු අවස්ථාවක් අපරාදේ වනසලා දැම්ම​.
දැන් නැවතත් ඒ විනාසෙම කරනව​.

ලස්සන වැඩේ කියන්නේ ඒකෙන් පිටවුන දක්‍ෂ​ වෛද්‍යවරුන් ගෙන් පසුව රජයේ වි වි වල පෙලපාලි යන JVP දොස්තර ලමයි ඉගෙන ගත්තා සායන වලදී ලැජ්ජ නැතුව​.  ඒ කාලෙ කැම්පස් වහනව විටින් විට​. කොච්චර භීශනය ආවද කියනව නම් නොමැරී ඉතුරු උන අයට​ රජයේ වෛදවරයෙක් ලෙස ඉගෙන ගෙන පිට වෙන්නෙ වසර 8 ක් වගේ ගියා.

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hettdas

hettdas
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
please read this
http://www.lankaenews.com/news/4205

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omegaplus

omegaplus
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@D.G.Dayaratne wrote:SAITM problem mostly created by JVP and Some doctors  who want  to protect their monopoly

JVP with their present education policy will never come to power. They should change present education policy

All medical faculties of universities are not same Quality vice

Medical council or Ministry of Helth must conduct a exam before recruiting doctors

As far as I believe every act should look at its own merit.I do not have any political agendas as far as they act behalf of countries or general publics benefits. Sadly it not happen very often.
Where you Stand, do we need a country with Law and order same for every citizen?  Then, Just two questions. 


1.Is SAITM started according to right protocol or illegally? 
 
2.So should we act on law or cover it up? 


We are in a country seen RS 50,000.00 fined,  13 years old schooled girl for stealing 8 coconuts. 

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omegaplus

omegaplus
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Chinwi wrote:1980s රාගම PMC එක ආසියාවේම නව පරිච්ඡේදයක්. ඒ වන විට මැලේසියාව​, බංග්ලාදේශ ආදී රටවල් ඕවට ප්‍රසිද්ධ වෙලා තිබුනේ නෑ.
ඒකෙ  මුල් බැච් එකටම    20% ක්ම පිටරට ලමයි ගෙන්න ගන්න පිලිවන් උනා.
අපේ රටට ඉහලට යන්න තිබුන තවත් මහඟු අවස්ථාවක් අපරාදේ වනසලා දැම්ම​.
දැන් නැවතත් ඒ විනාසෙම කරනව​.

ලස්සන වැඩේ කියන්නේ ඒකෙන් පිටවුන දක්‍ෂ​ වෛද්‍යවරුන් ගෙන් පසුව රජයේ වි වි වල පෙලපාලි යන JVP දොස්තර ලමයි ඉගෙන ගත්තා සායන වලදී ලැජ්ජ නැතුව​.  ඒ කාලෙ කැම්පස් වහනව විටින් විට​. කොච්චර භීශනය ආවද කියනව නම් නොමැරී ඉතුරු උන අයට​ රජයේ වෛදවරයෙක් ලෙස ඉගෙන ගෙන පිට වෙන්නෙ වසර 8 ක් වගේ ගියා.

Please don't take this personally. Didn't we all ask for law and order? 

As far as I believe every act should look at its own merit.I do not have any political agendas as far as they act behalf of countries or general publics benefits. Sadly it not happen very often.
Where you Stand, do we need a country with Law and order same for every citizen?  Then, Just two questions. 


1.Is SAITM started according to right protocol or illegally? 
 
2.So should we act on law or cover it up? 


We are in a country seen RS 50,000.00 fined,  13 years old schooled girl for stealing 8 coconuts. 

69Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:41 pm

Chinwi

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Then, Just two questions.


1.Is SAITM started according to right protocol or illegally?

2.So should we act on law or cover it up?


We are in a country seen RS 50,000.00 fined, 13 years old schooled girl for 8 stealing coconuts.



Simply this:

Regulations are there for the betterment of a nation.

If prevailing laws are not supportive for the cause then you have change them . Time to time they are changed everywhere .

I saw some fools of coast conservation demolishing a newly built hotel in Hikkaduwa. The reason for demolishing was: it was an illegal construction . Then they gave permission to build a new hotel , same plan, same location.

If SAITM was started without proper paperwork then, as a nation, we have to absolve them and give fullest support to fulfill any such requirements .
Destroying assets of a country is not the way to any-palanaya.

Making and running a motor vehicle without permission is illegal. If someone build and drive a car with levitation capabilities it is against the law. So we can destroy it , Cheena or Japana will make it and sell to us.
We are geared for such things.
We destroyed our golden creation , Ragama PMC in 1980s . Malaysia, Bangladesh , Australia, Russia, India are selling Medical education to us now.

70Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:45 pm

reader


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71Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:58 pm

reader


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@Chinwi wrote:
Then, Just two questions.


1.Is SAITM started according to right protocol or illegally?

2.So should we act on law or cover it up?


We are in a country seen RS 50,000.00 fined,  13 years old schooled girl for 8 stealing coconuts.



Simply this:

Regulations are there for the betterment of a nation.

If prevailing laws are not supportive for the cause then you have change them . Time to time they are changed everywhere .

I saw some fools of coast conservation demolishing a newly built hotel in Hikkaduwa.  The reason for demolishing was: it was an illegal construction . Then they gave permission to build a new hotel , same plan, same location.

If SAITM was  started without proper paperwork then, as a nation,  we have to absolve them and give fullest support to fulfill any such requirements .
Destroying assets of a country is not the way to any-palanaya.

Making and running a motor vehicle without permission is illegal. If someone build and drive a car with levitation capabilities it is against the law. So we can destroy it , Cheena or Japana will make it and sell to us.
We are geared for such things.
We destroyed our golden creation , Ragama PMC in 1980s . Malaysia, Bangladesh , Australia, Russia, India are selling Medical education to us now.

ohhh... it is such simple..  we can legalize all illegally start business and absolve them as all of them are the assets of the country.

72Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:31 am

omegaplus

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@Chinwi wrote:
Then, Just two questions.


1.Is SAITM started according to right protocol or illegally?

2.So should we act on law or cover it up?


We are in a country seen RS 50,000.00 fined,  13 years old schooled girl for 8 stealing coconuts.



Simply this:

Regulations are there for the betterment of a nation.

If prevailing laws are not supportive for the cause then you have change them . Time to time they are changed everywhere .

I saw some fools of coast conservation demolishing a newly built hotel in Hikkaduwa.  The reason for demolishing was: it was an illegal construction . Then they gave permission to build a new hotel , same plan, same location.

If SAITM was  started without proper paperwork then, as a nation,  we have to absolve them and give fullest support to fulfill any such requirements .
Destroying assets of a country is not the way to any-palanaya.

Making and running a motor vehicle without permission is illegal. If someone build and drive a car with levitation capabilities it is against the law. So we can destroy it , Cheena or Japana will make it and sell to us.
We are geared for such things.
We destroyed our golden creation , Ragama PMC in 1980s . Malaysia, Bangladesh , Australia, Russia, India are selling Medical education to us now.

Sorry, I will not agree.And it's not personal....

The very reason we can't develop as a country is different standards of practicing Law and order of the country, and funny enough some of those countries you mention have proper law and order in place. And about Indian Dr degree , whole worlds know what happened and a video posted above. 

It's simple in this way...either you support and accept Law and order of the country for every citizen or want to continue as last 60 years...
No wonder we in this mess as a country.

73Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:29 pm

Chinwi

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@reader wrote:ohhh... it is such simple.. we can legalize all illegally start business and absolve them as all of them are the assets of the country.


This shows you have left no valid arguments.

kasippu , kudu, kansa all are assets of some kind but we are talking about progressive things.

74Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:12 pm

hettdas

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http://www.lankaanews.com/2017/01/31/%E0%B6%85%E0%B6%B0%E0%B7%8A%E2%80%8D%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%8F%E0%B6%B4%E0%B6%B1-%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%94%E0%B7%84%E0%B6%9A%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B1%E0%B7%8A-%E0%B6%B4%E0%B6%BB%E0%B7%8F%E0%B6%AF%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%92/

75Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:43 pm

omegaplus

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@hettdas wrote:http://www.lankaanews.com/2017/01/31/%E0%B6%85%E0%B6%B0%E0%B7%8A%E2%80%8D%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%8F%E0%B6%B4%E0%B6%B1-%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%94%E0%B7%84%E0%B6%9A%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B1%E0%B7%8A-%E0%B6%B4%E0%B6%BB%E0%B7%8F%E0%B6%AF%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%92/
So who is saying the truth?
As it mention here , Education minter was asking for changes before approval. So this MP saying lies? 

76Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:01 pm

samaritan


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The Court of Appeal has ruled today that SAITM graduates be given provisional registration by the SLMC.

I personally know of a specialist physician who graduated from the North Colombo Medical College and presently serving as Professor of Medicine at the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Sri Jayawardenepura enjoying a thriving private practice.

Has the University of SJP compromised on standards?

I agree on a mechanism to ensure standards of the profession rather than just viewing SAITM as SATAN.


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77Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:05 pm

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@samaritan wrote:The Court of Appeal has ruled today that SAITM graduates be given provisional registration by the SLMC.

I personally know of a specialist physician who graduated from the North Colombo Medical College and presently serving as Professor of Medicine at the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Sri Jayawardenepura enjoying a thriving private practice.

Has the University of SJP compromised on standards?

I agree on a mechanism to ensure standards of the profession rather than just viewing SAITM as SATAN.

fair points & fair result today.!
As Chinwi correctly said we should have opened a private uni long before. But due to various reasons we were not lucky enough to get one.

We could have been stopped draining money from this poor nation.

I really hope students from other countries will come & study at SAITM soon.

78Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:58 pm

Chinwi

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@omegaplus wrote:Please don't take this personally. .....

Sorry I forgot to mention ...
I do not take anything personally .. just exchanging ideas and facts only. Smile

Everybody has valid looking facts but a country has to settle on one plane.
I think we are still good. See what is happening in USA. !

79Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:23 pm

omegaplus

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@Chinwi wrote:
@omegaplus wrote:Please don't take this personally. .....

Sorry I forgot to mention ...
I do not take anything personally .. just exchanging ideas and facts only. Smile

Everybody has valid looking facts  but a country has to settle on one plane.
I think we are still good.  See what is happening in USA. !
Thank you...but I still believe SAITM didn't follow right protocol, and legal  framework of the country. And Law and order bypassed at this matter too. 
And About private education , yes it should enhance, thats a different topic, matter to this.
Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Justic10

80Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:35 pm

reader


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@Chinwi wrote:
@reader wrote:ohhh... it is such simple..  we can legalize all illegally start business and absolve them as all of them are the assets of the country.


This shows you have left no valid arguments.

kasippu , kudu, kansa all are assets of some kind but we are talking about progressive things. 
Argument is there no need to repeat it. ..

81Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:22 am

reader


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The sad truth of SAITM,  is  many do not even comprehend the enormity of the consequences.. Our health and education system was strong despite all the political chaos. Now it also gone.. When the public (who complain of the students blocking the roads) start to feel the effect , it will be too late....

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omegaplus

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@reader wrote:The sad truth of SAITM,  is  many do not even comprehend the enormity of the consequences.. Our health and education system was strong despite all the political chaos. Now it also gone.. When the public (who complain of the students blocking the roads) start to feel the effect , it will be too late....
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thilankad

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@reader wrote:The sad truth of SAITM,  is  many do not even comprehend the enormity of the consequences.. Our health and education system was strong despite all the political chaos. Now it also gone.. When the public (who complain of the students blocking the roads) start to feel the effect , it will be too late....

Congratulations SAITM !!!!  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Quality of Doctors may improve due to competition

Monopoly of Doctors will brake

Quality of doctors can improve by proper management

Medical council should be vigilant must take independent professional action

85Abolish SAITM! - Page 4 Empty Re: Abolish SAITM! Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:31 pm

omegaplus

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OH " Lady Justice of SL"


It's the Miracle of World of course,  In Sri Lanka , even high educated investors (I'm sure there are some of them studies Law too) don't  want to accept ,

" Law and order should same for every citizen"

where we going....OH " Lady Justice of SL"...    You fined a 13 years old school girl for 8 counts.
But for stealing central back on daylight, stealing EPF/ETF money, unexplained income for 80-90% politicians you are blindfolded . It's for not to be blindfolded for selected. 
It's for fair justice without selecting . 

Now when a group of people violate many law and order of the country , you getting there side...
You not just blindfolded and  shameless but abusing the real "Lady Justice-  'Justitia " 

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