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21LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:22 pm

Slstock


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@CSE1 wrote:
@Gaja wrote:
@ndnk wrote:Will there be a price band again today on LDEV?

Here is the answer - http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/861299750877_.pdf

In terms of the SEC directive dated 14th September 2010, a 10% price band has been imposed on LDEV.N.0000 with effect from 11th March 2011 to 24th March 2011 (both days inclusive).
The full list of securities on which the 10% price band is applicable is attached.

Okay that was coming. How on earth did Wapo did not get caught when it was fluctuating so much as 50% per day. How many retailer much have mnade losses over 50% ?

22LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:40 pm

smallville


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Dont u get it mate? the formula only captures small shares.. an increase of over 10% with high trades will get caught.. with high value shares over 50%.. ahh no way.. it has to go over at least 70% to get qualified in bann.. after all favorites need to have a better treatment know?

23LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:47 pm

Rajitha


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@smallville wrote:Dont u get it mate? the formula only captures small shares.. an increase of over 10% with high trades will get caught.. with high value shares over 50%.. ahh no way.. it has to go over at least 70% to get qualified in bann.. after all favorites need to have a better treatment know?
Its called liquidity of a share. Or in a simpler manner amount of shares traded!

You can have any of the illiquid shares whether Rs 1 or rs 10000 it does not matter go up by 50% and it will not get caught in the price band!

24LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:55 pm

Slstock


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
I get it alright Buddy. I get it that this formula has to be revised Mad

Free float, price, volume huh ? Only for certain shares. After a while we can make a list of share which will be safe even if the price goes over 70% for 3 consecutive days.

25LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:47 pm

chamith


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:
Free float, price, volume huh ? Only for certain shares. After a while we can make a list of share which will be safe even if the price goes over 70% for 3 consecutive days.

well said.....

investor0000


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
I have recently purchased 500 shares of LDEV. Therefore:

[/list]I am entitled to 7500 of shares from rights issue right?
I will have to pay 25 per share for these rights shares?
Then will I be able to sell all 8000 shares for a better price? How much will it be? Now its trading at 59
Any other additional costs? or anything I should know?



Last edited by Meta Trader on Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:43 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : corrected the title of the topic)

27LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:42 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@investor0000 wrote:I have recently purchased 500 shares of LDEV. Therefore:

[/list]I am entitled to 7500 of shares from rights issue right?
I will have to pay 25 per share for these rights shares?
Then will I be able to sell all 8000 shares for a better price? How much will it be? Now its trading at 59
Any other additional costs? or anything I should know?

I am entitled to 7500 of shares from rights issue right? YES
I will have to pay 25 per share for these rights shares? YES

You have to remember that when there is a right issue as big as 15:1 the share price will get diluted naturally first.

Ex : If share is Rs 50 on the XR day

After XR it should be = ( 15*25+50)=Rs 26.25. Remember that there will now be 15 times more shares i nthe market potentially.

But over time the share price can go up more than the above. Some time it goes up immediately due to manipulation , market sentimetns etc. Ex WAPO was a very good example. I cannot precdit the price for LDEV after rights issue but you get the idea.
Hope this helps.

28LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:14 am

DK


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Hi Investor
Thanks for pointing this rights issue out, I completely missed the news on this one Smile

slstock has answered your question already, however there is a small typo:
After XR it should be = ( 15*25+50)/16=Rs 26.25 26.56. Remember that there will now be 15 times more shares (i.e. 16 times the current number) i nthe market potentially.



Last edited by DK on Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:41 am; edited 1 time in total

29LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty LDEV-Right Issue could become a gem Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:30 am

mahasen007


Stock Trader
Rights issues are issued at Rs 25. Assume we bought one share and we are entitled to 15 more share at Rs 25 per share. To attract the LDEV rights at Rs25, assume that XR would be around Rs30 per share. So the total cost for 16 shares( original 1+ 15 rights) have to be Rs 480( 30*16). cost of 15 shares at 25 per shares is Rs 380. Therefore for share to be Rs 30 after the Rights(XR), LDEV present share should atleast move to Rs 105.(480-375). Otherwise investors wont buy the Rights at Rs 25. So I feel the share is really worth to buy now being traded at 58 levels. Hope it will gradually move to closure to 100. Open for discussion

30LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:33 am

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator
@DK wrote:Hi Investor
Thanks for pointing this rights issue out, I completely missed the news on this one Smile

slstock has answered your question already, however there is a small typo:
After XR it should be = ( 15*25+50)/16=Rs 26.25 26.56. Remember that there will now be 15 16 times more shares i nthe market potentially.

15 times more shares = 16 times the current number Smile

31LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:40 am

DK


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Yeap you are correct Smile corrected that text

32LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:49 am

DK


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@mahasen007 wrote:Rights issues are issued at Rs 25. Assume we bought one share and we are entitled to 15 more share at Rs 25 per share. To attract the LDEV rights at Rs25, assume that XR would be around Rs30 per share. So the total cost for 16 shares( original 1+ 15 rights) have to be Rs 480( 30*16). cost of 15 shares at 25 per shares is Rs 380. Therefore for share to be Rs 30 after the Rights(XR), LDEV present share should atleast move to Rs 105.(480-375). Otherwise investors wont buy the Rights at Rs 25. So I feel the share is really worth to buy now being traded at 58 levels. Hope it will gradually move to closure to 100. Open for discussion

There would be no reason why XR has to be 30. So long as XR is over 25, the rights issue would be successful.

33LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:56 am

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator
@ DK
isn't it obvious that the XR would be above it's rights price in any case? (unless the company is stupid to issue rights at a value higher than market price)
so does that make all the rights issues attractive?

34LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:12 am

DK


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
npp wrote:@ DK
isn't it obvious that the XR would be above it's rights price in any case? (unless the company is stupid to issue rights at a value higher than market price)
so does that make all the rights issues attractive?

Correct, but that does not mean you can assume that the share price will appreciate by 100% Smile The share price of LDEV prior to the announcement was 46. Why would it jump to 105 so that the right can trade at 5 rupees? It can very well go to 60 and let the right trade at 2. Sure it can go 105, but then it can go to 150 as well and right would be trading at 7.

What I am saying is that the math doesnt work both ways. XR price is a dependant on the current share price. The share price is not necessarily dependant on the XR price except for what you mentioned, i.e. it has to yield an XR greater than issue price of the rights.

35LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:52 am

investor0000


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
thanks a lot for all the replies......

how can I apply for the rights shares? will they issue all 7500 shares that I am entitled for?

Are there any other costs involved for me?

36LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:26 am

Quibit


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Cost of lankem development (LDEV) rights are more than the investment in lankem development share.. You think it is worth to invest.. I don't think so. 90% investors r playing the game of profit..game of black jack .. Easily during the price ban... They r not real investors....real investment will come from LCEY.. Lankem Ceylon.

37LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Can anyone tell something about LDEV ? Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:17 am

banarahu

banarahu
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Can anyone tell something about Lankem Developments at the moment... bounce
more buyers and no one to sell after the last trade date... what are the suggestions in future trades... Shocked

38LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:53 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@banarahu wrote:Can anyone tell something about Lankem Developments at the moment... bounce
more buyers and no one to sell after the last trade date... what are the suggestions in future trades... Shocked

What I can see is, Its goin up Smile

39LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:55 am

tkc

tkc
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@swan03 wrote:
@banarahu wrote:Can anyone tell something about Lankem Developments at the moment... bounce
more buyers and no one to sell after the last trade date... what are the suggestions in future trades... Shocked

What I can see is, Its goin up Smile
Yes I just missed it....

40LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:57 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@tkc wrote:
@swan03 wrote:
@banarahu wrote:Can anyone tell something about Lankem Developments at the moment... bounce
more buyers and no one to sell after the last trade date... what are the suggestions in future trades... Shocked

What I can see is, Its goin up Smile
Yes I just missed it....

Me too. Waiting until it comes down again Smile.

41LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:59 am

tkc

tkc
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@swan03 wrote:
@tkc wrote:
@swan03 wrote:
@banarahu wrote:Can anyone tell something about Lankem Developments at the moment... bounce
more buyers and no one to sell after the last trade date... what are the suggestions in future trades... Shocked

What I can see is, Its goin up Smile
Yes I just missed it....

Me too. Waiting until it comes down again Smile.
I want to buy LDEV...But i never wish to come down....Bcz there are lots of my friends hold LDEV in this forum.... Smile

42LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:07 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@tkc wrote:
@swan03 wrote:
@tkc wrote:
@swan03 wrote:
@banarahu wrote:Can anyone tell something about Lankem Developments at the moment... bounce
more buyers and no one to sell after the last trade date... what are the suggestions in future trades... Shocked

What I can see is, Its goin up Smile
Yes I just missed it....

Me too. Waiting until it comes down again Smile.
I want to buy LDEV...But i never wish to come down....Bcz there are lots of my friends hold LDEV in this forum.... Smile

Sorry Bro, I didnt mean that. What is the price to buy them in the current market?

43LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:11 am

tkc

tkc
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@swan03 wrote:
@tkc wrote:
@swan03 wrote:
@tkc wrote:
@swan03 wrote:
@banarahu wrote:Can anyone tell something about Lankem Developments at the moment... bounce
more buyers and no one to sell after the last trade date... what are the suggestions in future trades... Shocked

What I can see is, Its goin up Smile
Yes I just missed it....

Me too. Waiting until it comes down again Smile.
I want to buy LDEV...But i never wish to come down....Bcz there are lots of my friends hold LDEV in this forum.... Smile

Sorry Bro, I didnt mean that. What is the price to buy them in the current market?
I know that swan....you are a good friend.... Smile

44LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty Re: LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:15 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@tkc wrote:
@swan03 wrote:
@tkc wrote:
@swan03 wrote:
@tkc wrote:
@swan03 wrote:
@banarahu wrote:Can anyone tell something about Lankem Developments at the moment... bounce
more buyers and no one to sell after the last trade date... what are the suggestions in future trades... Shocked

What I can see is, Its goin up Smile
Yes I just missed it....

Me too. Waiting until it comes down again Smile.
I want to buy LDEV...But i never wish to come down....Bcz there are lots of my friends hold LDEV in this forum.... Smile

Sorry Bro, I didnt mean that. What is the price to buy them in the current market?
I know that swan....you are a good friend.... Smile


sunny sunny

45LANKEM DEVELOPMENTS PLC (LDEV.N0000) - Page 2 Empty still no proper answer... :!: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:42 am

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