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dineshfernando


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First of all I must thank to CSE a lot because I made over 200% gain over the last 2 years. I have been trading over 6 years in total and seen many downs and ups of the market. 95%  of my portfolio is of fundamental shares and undervalued shares.

At this present condition, I have been losing almost Rs. 200,000/= everyday. I am planning to quit temporarily and come back with 50% of portfolio when things are ok. My portfolio value is 8 digit figure and if I dispose it and put it in a fixed deposit I will earn more than my present salary.

My options are:
1) Dispose entire portfolio and deposit it in fixed deposit account
2) Dispose 50% and reinvest it in plantations (coconut)
3) Quit the job and spend more time on trading
4) Buy an appartment and rent
5) Do nothing and wait till the market recover

Also, I would like to know how many of you are doing trading as a job (full-time). I have more than 25 years to retire but I feel if I spend more time in the market I always can make more gains and reduce loses. I'm also fed up with my present job.

Friends, please advice me.

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Post Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:02 am by Kumar

Buying shares now is good for long term investment.

Post Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:50 am by Soundchips

What is the Exit strategy

Post Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:42 am by Kumar

@Soundchips wrote:What is the Exit strategy
After making reasonable profit.
Fundamental shares will bounce back in their own pace.

Post Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:30 pm by rijayasooriya

@Kumar wrote:
@Soundchips wrote:What is the Exit strategy
After making reasonable profit.
Very very intelligent Wink

Tiger

Post Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:44 pm by Tiger

@Tiger wrote:
@Tiger wrote:If I were you I would dispose about 25-50% of PF even with some losses, after carefully selecting high P/E forwards. Keep this money in liquid form and keep until this down trend ends. I expect this to be end by beginning of Q4, until then those with high p/e's will seek its bottom (i.e. until Q3 results, those companies which cannot support these high p/e with actual results will sink).

Again enter the market if you wish. I believe 2012 to be exciting year.

This is my personal view please obtain professional advice before making your investment decisions.


I have nothing to say other than repeat what I said many times before. If you had correctly followed the market this year you would have been able to double your wealth in 2011; in terms of the number of shares you had in the same companies. Still I have one thing to say, you should be entering into oversold market and not wise verse.

shaankh

Post Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:54 am by shaankh

Do your own business. When market is blooming come again.

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Post Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:59 am by Soundchips

@rijayasooriya wrote:
@Kumar wrote:
@Soundchips wrote:What is the Exit strategy
After making reasonable profit.
Very very intelligent Wink

when there continuous.. negative sentiments imposed on investors what other options are left...

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Post Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:59 am by arrowms

@dineshfernando wrote:
Also, I would like to know how many of you are doing trading as a job (full-time). I have more than 25 years to retire but I feel if I spend more time in the market I always can make more gains and reduce loses. I'm also fed up with my present job.

Friends, please advice me.
25years to go!!!! I think U have to get experience lot in life. Better to start full time work in the market at the age of 45. 'cos u have energy to work @ office and manage stock trading now.

bePositive

Post Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:13 am by bePositive

great damage done to CSE by passing an unwarranted under performing business acquisition law, which would make it worse for CSE.

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Post Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:54 pm by Aamiable

however, consequences and stock market response seem to be very inappropriate.

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Post Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:11 pm by yellow knife

There is no one unique strategy..We all develop our own strategies..

Fixed Deposit is still not the solution as return is less..Giving up job and do fulltime trading has no value at alll....to do business is really good..it need more courage than paper trading...continue collecting stocks....

indika11

Post Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:55 pm by indika11

alien WHAT WILL BE THE BEST STRATEGY AT THIS MOMENT TO -SELL -HOLD-BUY OR AVARAGE.I WOLD PREFER TO HOLD AND AVARAGE (IF CAN AFFORD) Question [b]



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rijayasooriya

Post Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:45 pm by rijayasooriya

SELL:- Craps if u can exit even with a marginal loss.
HOLD:-Fundamentally sounds shares.
BUY:- Fundamentally sounds undervalued(or fairlyvalued) shares.
AVERAGE:-Mmmmm.....bit tricky bussiness as bottom seems to be 'bottomless.' Wink

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Post Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:02 pm by Aamiable

I have fundamentally sound stocks... they are also bottom less...

tkc

Post Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:22 am by tkc

If you have no confidence about cse it is better to do "short trades". But still I m collecting fundamentals. But I m also losing my confidence level little bit now. Smile

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Post Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:08 pm by Aamiable

I am holding. hope this might recover next year. kohedo yana billek nisa vechcha paduwaha tharama....hope market is green next week.... hope fothe best...

pathfinder

Post Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:44 pm by pathfinder

hope 2012 will not be the world's end!!!!

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Post Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:16 pm by Rajaraam

@dineshfernando wrote:Dear friends,

First of all I must thank to CSE a lot because I made over 200% gain over the last 2 years. I have been trading over 6 years in total and seen many downs and ups of the market. 95% of my portfolio is of fundamental shares and undervalued shares.

At this present condition, I have been losing almost Rs. 200,000/= everyday. I am planning to quit temporarily and come back with 50% of portfolio when things are ok. My portfolio value is 8 digit figure and if I dispose it and put it in a fixed deposit I will earn more than my present salary.

My options are:
1) Dispose entire portfolio and deposit it in fixed deposit account
2) Dispose 50% and reinvest it in plantations (coconut)
3) Quit the job and spend more time on trading
4) Buy an appartment and rent
5) Do nothing and wait till the market recover

Also, I would like to know how many of you are doing trading as a job (full-time). I have more than 25 years to retire but I feel if I spend more time in the market I always can make more gains and reduce loses. I'm also fed up with my present job.

Dear Dinesh,

I am older than u and I have been engaged in share trading many more years than you. I too earned during some years good income from share market business than my permanent income from emplyment . However I enjoyed my job and it added so much to my hapiness.Money is not everything. You do not know now what would be your future in your working place. May be you are not happy at present due to various factors which you dont like. That is natural . Many seniors in my working place left our office saying that they have no future here. They (may be innocently) adviced me too to leave this place. But I thought I must continue and face the chalenge. Finaly I was able to become the Boss of that place with a very respectable income which I didn't expect. And my seniors who left early and joined other institutions were unable to reach the top level in rspective institutions and retired as junior officers. Therefore I kindly request you to continue both job and share dealing and consider your main income is your job. Share dealing is a supplementory income for retailers like us..



de

sriranga

Post Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:47 pm by sriranga

@Rajaraam wrote:
@dineshfernando wrote:Dear friends,

First of all I must thank to CSE a lot because I made over 200% gain over the last 2 years. I have been trading over 6 years in total and seen many downs and ups of the market. 95% of my portfolio is of fundamental shares and undervalued shares.

At this present condition, I have been losing almost Rs. 200,000/= everyday. I am planning to quit temporarily and come back with 50% of portfolio when things are ok. My portfolio value is 8 digit figure and if I dispose it and put it in a fixed deposit I will earn more than my present salary.

My options are:
1) Dispose entire portfolio and deposit it in fixed deposit account
2) Dispose 50% and reinvest it in plantations (coconut)
3) Quit the job and spend more time on trading
4) Buy an appartment and rent
5) Do nothing and wait till the market recover

Also, I would like to know how many of you are doing trading as a job (full-time). I have more than 25 years to retire but I feel if I spend more time in the market I always can make more gains and reduce loses. I'm also fed up with my present job.

Dear Dinesh,

I am older than u and I have been engaged in share trading many more years than you. I too earned during some years good income from share market business than my permanent income from emplyment . However I enjoyed my job and it added so much to my hapiness.Money is not everything. You do not know now what would be your future in your working place. May be you are not happy at present due to various factors which you dont like. That is natural . Many seniors in my working place left our office saying that they have no future here. They (may be innocently) adviced me too to leave this place. But I thought I must continue and face the chalenge. Finaly I was able to become the Boss of that place with a very respectable income which I didn't expect. And my seniors who left early and joined other institutions were unable to reach the top level in rspective institutions and retired as junior officers. Therefore I kindly request you to continue both job and share dealing and consider your main income is your job. Share dealing is a supplementory income for retailers like us..
de

@ Rajaraam
You are 1000 times correct.
Good advice.
I really appreciate your views.

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Post Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:13 pm by Aamiable

watch dog wrote:hope 2012 will not be the world's end!!!!


Do you mean something of this nature in the near future?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-14/30-000-pound-bunker-buster-bomb-now-ready.html#


B-2 Bomber Gets Boeing’s New 30,000-Pound Bunker-Buster Bomb

The U.S. Air Force has taken delivery of a new 30,000-pound bomb from Boeing Co. (BA) that’s capable of penetrating deeply buried enemy targets.

The huge bunker buster, dubbed the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, is built to fit the B-2 stealth bomber. The Air Force Global Strike Command started receiving the bombs in September, Air Force spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Jack Miller said in a short statement to Bloomberg News.

The deliveries “will meet requirements for the current operational need,” he said.

The Air Force in 2009 said Boeing might build as many as 16 of the munitions. Miller yesterday had no details on how many the Air Force plans to buy. Boeing in August received a $32 million contract that included eight of the munitions.

Command head Lieutenant General James Kowalski told the annual Air Force Association conference in September the command “completed integration” of the bunker-buster bomb with the B- 2, “giving the war-fighter increased capability against hardened and deeply buried targets.”

The bomb is the U.S. military’s largest conventional penetrator. It’s six times bigger than the 5,000-pound bunker buster that the Air Force now uses to attack deeply buried nuclear, biological or chemical sites.

Chicago-based Boeing is manufacturing the bomb, which was successfully demonstrated in March 2007.

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The B-2, developed by Falls Church, Virginia-based Northrop Grumman Corp. (NOC), has a shape and skin capable of evading radar. It’s the only U.S. bomber designed to penetrate air defenses such as those believed in use by North Korea and Iran. It’s also the only aircraft currently capable of carrying the new bomb.




I hope 2012 will not be the world's end Neutral


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Post Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:46 pm by Asoka Samarakone

Faith is a basic fact of our life. We cannot live even for a moment without it. Have faith that you can start again. May be this will not happen again to you which means that the path from here is golden. Many people, who end up with such massive loss in their first few trades only, really lose faith in the markets.They go back to their life never to come back again. Prepare with alternative ways to tackle such a situation in the future. When you do this, you will definitely emerge again as a professional stock trader!
You cannot always control what you get. The actions you take will indeed bring results. However, there can often be other factors that influence those results. Focus your energy on pointing your actions consistently and persistently in the direction of your dreams. Those actions will, one way or another, moves you in that direction. What you can control is what you do, so make the very most of that opportunity. Although other factors may at times work against you, there is great benefit to having your own considerable strength working for you.

pathfinder

Post Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:03 am by pathfinder

@Aamiable wrote:
watch dog wrote:hope 2012 will not be the world's end!!!!


Do you mean something of this nature in the near future?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-14/30-000-pound-bunker-buster-bomb-now-ready.html#
I hope 2012 will not be the world's end Neutral
At last We both thinking in the same way,SEC may need something like bunker buster to clear the swellen heads,other wise 2012 will be the end of CSE,not the world.For some people CSE is the world.(for them world's end)

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Post Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:33 am by insidertrader

watch dog wrote:
At last We both thinking in the same way,SEC may need something like bunker buster to clear the swellen heads,other wise 2012 will be the end of CSE,not the world.For some people CSE is the world.(for them world's end)

Just because may be 0.00001% of Sri Lankans lost portion of their money doen't make the CSE end. CSE has been going up like crazy after the war. But the companies didin't keep their growth matched with that. Their growth was not performance wise, it was just because they had shares of the same CSE companies. So the prices has to come down. People can blame the SEC, the credit... (You may not know but the brokers are allowed give credit as much as they can as long as the credit can paid by actual money ((not magically created money)) if the inevitable happens like a market crash. No this is not a market crash)

pathfinder

Post Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:20 am by pathfinder

@insidertrader wrote:

Just because may be 0.00001% of Sri Lankans lost portion of their money doen't make the CSE end. CSE has been going up like crazy after the war. But the companies didin't keep their growth matched with that. Their growth was not performance wise, it was just because they had shares of the same CSE companies. So the prices has to come down. People can blame the SEC, the credit... (You may not know but the brokers are allowed give credit as much as they can as long as the credit can paid by actual money ((not magically created money)) if the inevitable happens like a market crash. No this is not a market crash)

I 100% agree with you that market desparetly needed correction after running of post war era,where DPL,GRAN,GREG run as donkeys,Now this is over correction my friend,can you justify the current value of SAMP,DIMO as over valued and need correction anymore.
Don't think that I'm new to CSE just by the number of post by me in this forum,I was there for more than a decade and have seen many ups and downs,
after the war era I got a hudge profit of more than 20 times of the PF.Don't think I'm howling with the crowed because I lost.
This downtrend is due to uncertinity of GOVERNMENT and SEC policies,breach the invester confidence,plus global crisis and some sector related
factors.
CSE defenetly need a regulator body,Not as a pre school teacher going behind all children and teaching how to wright,,how to eat ,how to shit etc....

bakapandithaya

Post Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:20 am by bakapandithaya

Wait till 2012

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