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121PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:46 pm

Nandun


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
[url=https://cdn.cse.lk/cmt/announcement_portal_prod/Reply to CSE Letter-08.09.2020_10340696229177185.pdf]https://cdn.cse.lk/cmt/announcement_portal_prod/Reply%20to%20CSE%20Letter-08.09.2020_10340696229177185.pdf[/url]

they say this is not price sensitive information Question Question

122PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:12 pm

Eranga87


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@ Nadun,
normally they said there are no price sensitivity transactions at the beginning. look at LOLC clarification of a newspaper article 2019. After a few days, the price goes up.
wait and see. next announcement..

123PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:58 pm

Master D


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Teller wrote:indian investor is in trouble . Glas has to pay 1.8 billion loans currently its hard them to settle.  There is no reason to buy this company in very high price as our retailers predict


I remember you recommended this pre covid. Is this loan a new one?

124PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:28 pm

spindain


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Can't agree with teller here. You can't ignore a share just because they have loans. 

Let's be positive. Glas is not a loss making company and has a sound NAV. One of the best Penny Stocks we have and pays a dividend too. 

New buyer might pay off these loans and make it even more profitable.

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125PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:44 pm

Eranga87


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 +p36sRmD0UaAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC

126PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:46 pm

SUSPENS

SUSPENS
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
My first share in the CSE back in 2008 if im correct. im never going to buy this kind of indian company shares in my life time again.

dont get caught ....

127PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:50 pm

spindain


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
So called Experts Very Happy Very Happy....  telling things without proper justifications.

128PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:27 pm

Master D


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@spindain wrote:So called Experts Very Happy Very Happy....  telling things without proper justifications.

Fishy.. Smile  Smile

129PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:31 pm

Eranga87


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
GLAS N continuously recorded profit. Teller especially highlighted GLAS co. debt component. Most of Co.s maintained debt capital. GLAS has the ability to pay debt due to the profit-making company.
in CSE, so many comapny have done the right issue to settle debt. GLAS every time to expand their business. check cash flows, how many years invest in capital expenditure.

so many loss-making companies have in CSE, they never criticize such companies.
In simply, when they miss an opportunity, they underestimate that shares even make a profit and misrepresent people

130PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:33 pm

SUSPENS

SUSPENS
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
ttspindain wrote:So called Experts Very Happy Very Happy....  telling things without proper justifications.

enjoy and tell us the taste....do your own analysis lil

131PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:33 pm

engineer


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@SUSPENS wrote:My first share in the CSE back in 2008 if im correct. im never going to buy this kind of indian company shares in my life time again.

dont get caught ....

This surely needs some more info because this is a suspicious statement without any backing Smile

132PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:36 pm

SUSPENS

SUSPENS
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
tomorrow you can see the answer,,, Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

133PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:43 pm

Master D


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@SUSPENS wrote:tomorrow you can see the answer,,, Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

this share is not for tomorrow.  but at least for a year.

134PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:49 pm

SUSPENS

SUSPENS
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy 
very happy  ,,,,Good investors always should think looong term...specially shares like glas....

135PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:42 am

Teller

Teller
Moderator
Moderator
GLAS indian owner is in trouble . Glass has huge debt exceeds 1.8 billion thats why they sell it. As he is in a hard situation ,he may dispose his quantity below 4 also possible .


_________________




Teller said is said..

136PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:54 am

ishan.mindika@gmail.com


Stock Trader
@Teller wrote:GLAS indian owner is in trouble . Glass has huge debt exceeds 1.8 billion thats why they sell it. As he is in a hard situation ,he may dispose his quantity below 4 also possible .

So should you hold for a long time or drop?

137PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:18 am

Eranga87


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Teller
The deal will be finalized above NAV (Rs.4.92 as @ 31.03.2020) of GLASS. did you read newspaper articles? Piramal clearly mentioned in articles, he wants to premium on market value.


How can you justify GLAS deal should trade-in bellow Rs. 4.00?? even GLAS NAV Rs. 4.92
do you have evidence for GLAS dispose of bellow 4.00.

don't miscalculate innocent people.

138PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:44 am

soileconomy

soileconomy
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
If they have a plan to sell ,sri lankan largest arrack maker Distilleries is a good potential buyer

139PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:57 am

spindain


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Don't listen to teller. He is not doing youtube videos or doing a job he is successful as a investor. Looks like he is trying to collect below 4.00. What a loser

140PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:23 am

Master D


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Eranga87 wrote:@Teller
The deal will be finalized above NAV (Rs.4.92 as @ 31.03.2020) of GLASS. did you read newspaper articles? Piramal clearly mentioned in articles, he wants to premium on market value.


How can you justify GLAS deal should trade-in bellow Rs. 4.00?? even GLAS NAV Rs. 4.92
do you have evidence for GLAS dispose of bellow 4.00.

don't miscalculate innocent people.


I'm not  a expert as teller.
But he total liabilities has decreased in 2019/20 compared to previous year. Last year company increased capacity and profits increased and paid a good dividend.
Indian owner is Piramal group.  NEws says he wants to invest more in pharma as the reason for selling.   Even if they  have a cash problem it cannot affect a well performing subsidiary.
Just like SOftlogic insurance doing great inside  debt ridden softlogic group.

None of the  arguments raised by experts on this share seems logical to me.  May be there is something an average person doesn't know.   Smile

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141PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:30 am

Master D


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@SUSPENS wrote:My first share in the CSE back in 2008 if im correct. im never going to buy this kind of indian company shares in my life time again.

dont get caught ....


Were not you able to buy it around 2.00 in 2008 and wait to sell around 11.00 per share in 2011?     Very Happy:D
Thats  the long term I talk about.

142PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:40 am

Mithooshan


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Teller has a different perspective from an investor’s point of view. What he meant by above remark might be that there are other shares where we can get above 30% return with lesser risk.

Under the current context however, i think there is a an opportunity make a considerable capital gain in this share in a shorter time period.

Respect for teller and his youtube channel.

143PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:50 am

Teller

Teller
Moderator
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@eranga87,Read english property , He may dispose means , its 50:50, i also have this share @2.80 , if it will go high, im the one like it the most . Net assets values can be manipulated easily. There is no theory in the world , disposals should be above or equal to Net asset values . Buyers always try to get a parcel at best price . Seller never telles that they sell due to issues . He will highlight some thing . Because he wants to dump some one .
Example - the same way one of my friends sells his house , due to personal debt . But he says in the advertisement due to migration to Australia . Hahha i know he never leave from sri lanka . These are the strategies of sellers. But i got the insider info the reason they sell is the margin and high level of debt exfeeds 1.8 bilion. Even the business runs at a margin , its not worthy to indian investor because he can get much more payback ,IRR in indian market . Imagine why Dhamika / harry is not entering to business , because they know outsourcing is better compare to manufacturing the bottles . Currently the food graded plastics gives huge pressure to glass bottles .

Good luck and hope for the best

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144PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:53 am

Mithooshan


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
I really hope the Indian buyer is not in this forum if there is someone like that 😂

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145PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 7 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:55 pm

SUSPENS

SUSPENS
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2 min silent for innocent Glas lovers.......... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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