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21Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 12:32 pm

suddera


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Is RCL worth @ current 105.00 levels ?

22Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 12:34 pm

cse.alpha


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
CTHR makes nice capital gain on sale

CERA was in its books at Rs 87 per share at end 2012 - may have risen to around Rs 90 per share by end April 2013

Sold for Rs 120 per share (less brokerage cost), so profit of c. Rs 30 per share on 24 million shares gives total profit of around Rs 700 million on cash realised of Rs 2.9 billion

CERA reported profit of Rs 523 million last year, and CTHR would have got 80% of that - will not be getting contribution from CERA in future

What will CTHR do with the money ? Pay off debt ? Invest in new bank ? Invest in beer or dairy or supermarkets ?

23Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:06 pm

Chinwi


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
අනේ වාසනාවන් !
දැන් උදේ පාන්දර නිදි ගැට කඩලා ඇඳෙන් නැගිටලා ගිය ගමන් කාවද මතක් වෙන්නේ ?
හතර වටේටම ධම්මික ගේ බඩු .

Well done KDDP !

Construction industry is going to thrive here. They have already set for it.

24Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:25 pm

seek


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Chinwi wrote:අනේ වාසනාවන් !
දැන් උදේ පාන්දර නිදි ගැට කඩලා ඇඳෙන් නැගිටලා ගිය ගමන් කාවද මතක් වෙන්නේ ?
හතර වටේටම ධම්මික ගේ බඩු .

Well done KDDP !

Construction industry is going to thrive here. They have already set for it.

When will he stop building his empire? It is interesting see the NAV of VONE in next Q reports.

25Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:28 pm

Slstock


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
He is young no reason to stop.

@seek wrote:
@Chinwi wrote:අනේ වාසනාවන් !
දැන් උදේ පාන්දර නිදි ගැට කඩලා ඇඳෙන් නැගිටලා ගිය ගමන් කාවද මතක් වෙන්නේ ?
හතර වටේටම ධම්මික ගේ බඩු .

Well done KDDP !

Construction industry is going to thrive here. They have already set for it.

When will he stop building his empire? It is interesting see the NAV of VONE in next Q reports.

26Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:33 pm

mission


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

And also it would be intersting on how the market will React towards RCL


@slstock wrote:He is young no reason to stop.

@seek wrote:
@Chinwi wrote:අනේ වාසනාවන් !
දැන් උදේ පාන්දර නිදි ගැට කඩලා ඇඳෙන් නැගිටලා ගිය ගමන් කාවද මතක් වෙන්නේ ?
හතර වටේටම ධම්මික ගේ බඩු .

Well done KDDP !

Construction industry is going to thrive here. They have already set for it.

When will he stop building his empire? It is interesting see the NAV of VONE in next Q reports.


27Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:36 pm

suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Do you think then that both VONE and RCL should go up with the news?

28Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:36 pm

Bond


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@slstock wrote:He is young no reason to stop.

@seek wrote:
@Chinwi wrote:අනේ වාසනාවන් !
දැන් උදේ පාන්දර නිදි ගැට කඩලා ඇඳෙන් නැගිටලා ගිය ගමන් කාවද මතක් වෙන්නේ ?
හතර වටේටම ධම්මික ගේ බඩු .

Well done KDDP !

Construction industry is going to thrive here. They have already set for it.

When will he stop building his empire? It is interesting see the NAV of VONE in next Q reports.

This man never runs out of cash. Even Ballys has one of the highest winning percentages in the world.

Would have been better if he used Hayleys cash reserves

29Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:37 pm

Sidath

Sidath
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
doesn't Horana planataions come with lanka ceramics?

30Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:40 pm

Bond


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
It does -> should offload that to finance this deal.

31Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:46 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
It comes directly under sub of LWL if I recall.

@Sidath wrote:doesn't Horana planataions come with lanka ceramics?

32Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:49 pm

seek


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Bond wrote:It does -> should offload that to finance this deal.

Most probably, Dhammika will disconnect HOPL from RCL chain and will buy using DIPD. Rubber for Rubber.

33Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:55 pm

Harry82

Harry82
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
RCL control 95 % tile marketin Sri lanka Very Happy

34Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 1:55 pm

Bond


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@seek wrote:
@Bond wrote:It does -> should offload that to finance this deal.

Most probably, Dhammika will disconnect HOPL from RCL chain and will buy using DIPD. Rubber for Rubber.

I wouldn't be surprised if DIPD is sold to pay off Hayleys debt. But to who ? Cool

35Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 2:11 pm

seek


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Bond wrote:
@seek wrote:
@Bond wrote:It does -> should offload that to finance this deal.

Most probably, Dhammika will disconnect HOPL from RCL chain and will buy using DIPD. Rubber for Rubber.

I wouldn't be surprised if DIPD is sold to pay off Hayleys debt. But to who ? Cool


OMG… Can Helyies run without DIPD?, They can sell any but not DIPD and HAYC. Some of largest customers of entire HAYL group are handled by DIPD.

36Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 2:49 pm

Arena


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Yep Dammika is the only person to pay this much premium to a company which holds couple of dying companies.

Other players cant run a Tile company against the strong Royal Ceramic.

In near future DP will be the only party to buy out a company by paying premiums to compensate the synergy.



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37Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 2:50 pm

Aubrey Perera


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Interesting Days for Vone Smile

38Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 2:52 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Arena are you saying TILE and LWL is dying?


@Arena wrote:Yep Dammika is the only person to pay this much premium to a company which holds couple of dying companies.

39Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 3:09 pm

Arena


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
RCL is opening attractive branches in every where with good innovations. you see the advertisement campaign RCL has.

RCL investments in lot of new machinates and systems. If you read the Chairmen s review you can understand how pro active they are.

That is why i used the word Dying. Am i wrong ?As a customer or a potential customer i will never go to this Wall tile show rooms.

40Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 3:11 pm

suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Increased RCL and VONE today lets see hpow it goeas. In any case at the current valuations the shares are good to collect. What do you guys feel.

41Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 10:03 pm

stocks hunter


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
VONE will be the future of every wise investors. if u anybody wants to cover up past losses the best option is to invest in VONE and forget it for the next 5 years. U will see the wonders at that time. This has happend to share holders of LFIN, CONN,HAYL, VFIN,VPEL etc....etc... Capital gains plus hefty dividends. Good investment for your kids, family future 5 years, 10 years ..............

42Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 10:08 pm

econ

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@stocks hunter wrote:VONE will be the future of every wise investors. if u anybody wants to cover up past losses the best option is to invest in VONE and forget it for the next 5 years. U will see the wonders at that time. This has happend to share holders of LFIN, CONN,HAYL, VFIN,VPEL etc....etc... Capital gains plus hefty dividends. Good investment for your kids, family future 5 years, 10 years ..............

Agreed.. In my opinion it is the next big holding company like JKH, Carsons etc.

43Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 10:11 pm

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Arena wrote:Yep Dammika is the only person to pay this much premium to a company which holds couple of dying companies.

Other players cant run a Tile company against the strong Royal Ceramic.

In near future DP will be the only party to buy out a company by paying premiums to compensate the synergy.

It's not a premium price for CERA. It's a group of company. Actual asset value is more than 120/-. For RCL it's a good synergy, as now they have the control of the entire tile market. No price wars in the future.

44Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 10:13 pm

Harry82

Harry82
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Now RCL also big holding company

45Tile and Ceramic Sector - Page 2 Empty Re: Tile and Ceramic Sector Mon May 06, 2013 10:20 pm

Harry82

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High net worth investor Nimal Perera is entering into the stock broking industry together with Royal Ceramics Plc (RCL), via a deal to buy 51% control of New World Securities Ltd.
Nimal will be acquiring a 32% stake under his personal account whilst RCL will take up a 19% stake, in a move which is described as a “strategic alliance” as part of a shareholding restructuring at New World Securities (NWS).

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