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21CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:43 am

Kipling


Expert
Expert
JC
Please check TEC post by WS or BB recently. 
Nav reworked now minimum 50++ 
So very ST view will give you only tiny % of true value. 
RWSL as per June QR has 160Mn TO &market cap 1.8 Bn. 
CFLB June Q nearly 9Bn TO & MC just 3Bn. 
Price rerating run to better  EXPO.

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22CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:05 am

judecroos


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Kipling wrote:JC
Please check TEC post by WS or BB recently. 
Nav reworked now minimum 50++ 
So very ST view will give you only tiny % of true value. 
RWSL as per June QR has 160Mn TO &market cap 1.8 Bn. 
CFLB June Q nearly 9Bn TO & MC just 3Bn. 
Price rerating run to better  EXPO.
Kipling can you please explain your last phrase ?

23CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:20 am

Kipling


Expert
Expert
I think appreciation will surpass % gain of expo.

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24CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:50 am

geesura


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 4htceh10
@Kipling wrote:I think appreciation will surpass % gain of expo.

25CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:59 am

Kipling


Expert
Expert
Geesura. 
Do not doubt. Just read the analysis especially @ TEC.

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26CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:53 am

subash81


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
This is a gem, share price can double within next few months Very Happy

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27CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:04 am

Hope123


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Most are herein this forum talk positives about CFLB and RIL and expect to move like EXPO. So we all are in to one direction and assume to see fire works if the ASI stays green. Hope for the best.

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28CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:18 am

Kipling


Expert
Expert
Note the massive & controlled collection last week.

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29CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:58 am

subash81


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Train stopped for collection

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nish8


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My Expectation is CFLB will be passed over Rs.15 with in this week,Because huge collection was there during the 2nd Covid-19 wave.Better not to sell & hold the stock. Basketball Basketball bounce bounce

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31CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:46 pm

kanishkaecomm

kanishkaecomm
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
My Expectation is people will be collecting 350k per day from tomorrow for three days! CFLB.N will be passed over 18+ with in this week!!!!


#StayHomeStaySafe

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32CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:58 am

judecroos


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@kanishkaecomm wrote:My Expectation is people will be collecting 350k per day from tomorrow for three days! CFLB.N will be passed over 18+ with in this week!!!!


#StayHomeStaySafe
The train has stopped for collection as my knowledge but it can not remain for long should move. So this is the week it should reach to the next stop ( 16+ ). If someone wants to enter please hurry up because it is about to move. Am I correct ? if not correct me please. Smile Smile

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33CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:02 am

subash81


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@kanishkaecomm wrote:My Expectation is people will be collecting 350k per day from tomorrow for three days! CFLB.N will be passed over 18+ with in this week!!!!


#StayHomeStaySafe
Thanks  Basketball

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34CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:44 am

subash81


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@cseguide wrote:Why i am saying CFLB is a hidden gem
·         40 billion turnover company
·         They have about 40 subsidiaries belong to CFLB
·         Its land bank in heart of Colombo
·         investment in Quoted  and  non Quoted Companies
 
2019
" High interest rates, high taxes, subdued demand as a result of low consumer spending and weak commodity prices have all had an impact on the performance of the Group." Chairman saying in 2019 Annual report .
2020
But in this year.(2020) Interest rate reduced to all time low.
·         interest expenses  will reduce sharply resulting higher profit in this year
·         Vat reduced and consumer spending recovering higher income from all sectors.
 
In 2019
" The steep decline in tea prices, witnessed at the Colombo Auction as well as continued weakness in the global
market for Natural Rubber has seen both the Group’s Plantation companies run at a significant loss."
In 2020
Good Tea and Rubber prices both have a greater impact to their plantation losses to reduce and come to come profitability
 
 
They have about 40 subsidiaries belong to CFLB (page 83 of annual report 2019) Some had greater run recently reflecting their share price to increase due to either reducing their losses or recording healthy profits
I am only  giving few of them here.









Subsidiary Effective holding by CFLB2019 march price 2020 oct. 2 pricePRICE CHANGE %
CWM38%3645.0025%
KOTA61%58.1062%
LDEV47.3%2.25.60154%
LITE31%917.1090%
COLO65%5080.0060%
YORK50%60110.0083%
MARA 1.202.3091%
Average growth %80%
 


 2019 march price 2020 oct. 2 pricePRICE CHANGE %
CFLBRs 9.50Rs 13.9046
 
Comparing above figure we can clearly see that the price increase of its subsidiaries are not reflected in CFLB share price. some of its subsidiaries have increased there prices over 80% ( LDEV 154%, LITE 90%). Therefore we can see that CFLB share price has a clear upward revision to come to its fair value. Not only that subsidiaries like COLO is still greatly undervalued compare to its peers like CINV and GUAR.
 
Sunquick Lanka (Private) Limited
C.W. Makie PLC has a 49% interest in Sunquick Lanka (Private) Limited, a joint  venture formed for the purpose of manufacturing, processingand marketing Co-Ro’s products in the form of concentrates and ready to drink (RTD) products marketed under ’Sunquick’ brand.
 
NAV of CFLB 22.73 (on june 2020). Is a 40 billion turnover company and just trading its shares for 13.90 Rs.  compare to 2-3 billion some companies trading their shares in similar range. In addition to all these it has  a great company to cope with current agriculture related businesses. It is LANKEM CEYLON PLC. it has considerable share in agric product segment like agro chemicals and plantations.
Other two strength of this company include its land bank in the heart of Colombo and suburbs and the investment portfolio of quoted and non quoted companies.  page 77- page 99 of Annual report 2019)
some of its well-known brands
KOTAGALA
LANKEM
LAXAPANA
SUNQUICK
AGARAPATHANA
C.W. MACKIE
YORK ARCADE
E.B. CREASY & COMPANY PLC

Thanks

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35CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:14 am

Kipling


Expert
Expert
JC
Did you note traded quantity. Nearly 800,000. Still price being artificially controlled. Heard whales even Sangha & Aravinda now moving in. Any news.

36CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:17 am

judecroos


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@subash81 wrote:
@cseguide wrote:Why i am saying CFLB is a hidden gem
·         40 billion turnover company
·         They have about 40 subsidiaries belong to CFLB
·         Its land bank in heart of Colombo
·         investment in Quoted  and  non Quoted Companies
 
2019
" High interest rates, high taxes, subdued demand as a result of low consumer spending and weak commodity prices have all had an impact on the performance of the Group." Chairman saying in 2019 Annual report .
2020
But in this year.(2020) Interest rate reduced to all time low.
·         interest expenses  will reduce sharply resulting higher profit in this year
·         Vat reduced and consumer spending recovering higher income from all sectors.
 
In 2019
" The steep decline in tea prices, witnessed at the Colombo Auction as well as continued weakness in the global
market for Natural Rubber has seen both the Group’s Plantation companies run at a significant loss."
In 2020
Good Tea and Rubber prices both have a greater impact to their plantation losses to reduce and come to come profitability
 
 
They have about 40 subsidiaries belong to CFLB (page 83 of annual report 2019) Some had greater run recently reflecting their share price to increase due to either reducing their losses or recording healthy profits
I am only  giving few of them here.









Subsidiary Effective holding by CFLB2019 march price 2020 oct. 2 pricePRICE CHANGE %
CWM38%3645.0025%
KOTA61%58.1062%
LDEV47.3%2.25.60154%
LITE31%917.1090%
COLO65%5080.0060%
YORK50%60110.0083%
MARA 1.202.3091%
Average growth %80%
 


 2019 march price 2020 oct. 2 pricePRICE CHANGE %
CFLBRs 9.50Rs 13.9046
 
Comparing above figure we can clearly see that the price increase of its subsidiaries are not reflected in CFLB share price. some of its subsidiaries have increased there prices over 80% ( LDEV 154%, LITE 90%). Therefore we can see that CFLB share price has a clear upward revision to come to its fair value. Not only that subsidiaries like COLO is still greatly undervalued compare to its peers like CINV and GUAR.
 
Sunquick Lanka (Private) Limited
C.W. Makie PLC has a 49% interest in Sunquick Lanka (Private) Limited, a joint  venture formed for the purpose of manufacturing, processingand marketing Co-Ro’s products in the form of concentrates and ready to drink (RTD) products marketed under ’Sunquick’ brand.
 
NAV of CFLB 22.73 (on june 2020). Is a 40 billion turnover company and just trading its shares for 13.90 Rs.  compare to 2-3 billion some companies trading their shares in similar range. In addition to all these it has  a great company to cope with current agriculture related businesses. It is LANKEM CEYLON PLC. it has considerable share in agric product segment like agro chemicals and plantations.
Other two strength of this company include its land bank in the heart of Colombo and suburbs and the investment portfolio of quoted and non quoted companies.  page 77- page 99 of Annual report 2019)
some of its well-known brands
KOTAGALA
LANKEM
LAXAPANA
SUNQUICK
AGARAPATHANA
C.W. MACKIE
YORK ARCADE
E.B. CREASY & COMPANY PLC

Thanks

Thank you for the detailed information. I also heard that this valuable share is heavily undervalued and will move up in very very short time.

37CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:09 pm

Inthikahb M Wazeer


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@judecroos wrote:
@subash81 wrote:
@cseguide wrote:Why i am saying CFLB is a hidden gem
·         40 billion turnover company
·         They have about 40 subsidiaries belong to CFLB
·         Its land bank in heart of Colombo
·         investment in Quoted  and  non Quoted Companies
 
2019
" High interest rates, high taxes, subdued demand as a result of low consumer spending and weak commodity prices have all had an impact on the performance of the Group." Chairman saying in 2019 Annual report .
2020
But in this year.(2020) Interest rate reduced to all time low.
·         interest expenses  will reduce sharply resulting higher profit in this year
·         Vat reduced and consumer spending recovering higher income from all sectors.
 
In 2019
" The steep decline in tea prices, witnessed at the Colombo Auction as well as continued weakness in the global
market for Natural Rubber has seen both the Group’s Plantation companies run at a significant loss."
In 2020
Good Tea and Rubber prices both have a greater impact to their plantation losses to reduce and come to come profitability
 
 
They have about 40 subsidiaries belong to CFLB (page 83 of annual report 2019) Some had greater run recently reflecting their share price to increase due to either reducing their losses or recording healthy profits
I am only  giving few of them here.









Subsidiary Effective holding by CFLB2019 march price 2020 oct. 2 pricePRICE CHANGE %
CWM38%3645.0025%
KOTA61%58.1062%
LDEV47.3%2.25.60154%
LITE31%917.1090%
COLO65%5080.0060%
YORK50%60110.0083%
MARA 1.202.3091%
Average growth %80%
 


 2019 march price 2020 oct. 2 pricePRICE CHANGE %
CFLBRs 9.50Rs 13.9046
 
Comparing above figure we can clearly see that the price increase of its subsidiaries are not reflected in CFLB share price. some of its subsidiaries have increased there prices over 80% ( LDEV 154%, LITE 90%). Therefore we can see that CFLB share price has a clear upward revision to come to its fair value. Not only that subsidiaries like COLO is still greatly undervalued compare to its peers like CINV and GUAR.
 
Sunquick Lanka (Private) Limited
C.W. Makie PLC has a 49% interest in Sunquick Lanka (Private) Limited, a joint  venture formed for the purpose of manufacturing, processingand marketing Co-Ro’s products in the form of concentrates and ready to drink (RTD) products marketed under ’Sunquick’ brand.
 
NAV of CFLB 22.73 (on june 2020). Is a 40 billion turnover company and just trading its shares for 13.90 Rs.  compare to 2-3 billion some companies trading their shares in similar range. In addition to all these it has  a great company to cope with current agriculture related businesses. It is LANKEM CEYLON PLC. it has considerable share in agric product segment like agro chemicals and plantations.
Other two strength of this company include its land bank in the heart of Colombo and suburbs and the investment portfolio of quoted and non quoted companies.  page 77- page 99 of Annual report 2019)
some of its well-known brands
KOTAGALA
LANKEM
LAXAPANA
SUNQUICK
AGARAPATHANA
C.W. MACKIE
YORK ARCADE
E.B. CREASY & COMPANY PLC

Thanks

Thank you for the detailed information. I also heard that this valuable share is heavily undervalued and will move up in very very short time.

Any update about this counter.
Directors have sold their shares. Is it a good price at 12

38CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:39 pm

SANJAYANM


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
CFLB price could move with KOTA price

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39CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:27 pm

invest thinker

invest thinker
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
how interpreted CFLB hidden Gem, Directors knows, than us. better to exit CFLB. Director gave signal for upcoming financial results earliest. please think, if co. financial well perform, director never exit early. Directors already gave signal some shares,

RAL
CFLB
RWSL
PAP

WHAT happened recently that share price.. 

this is my point of view, if i am wrong.. pls, tell me. 

do you believe how many CFLB subsidiary perform well this qtr? forget about price changes.. i highlighted financial performance. most of co. suffer with losses. director knows, future also. when financial stat, uploaded they will again collect shares @ lower prices.. they again sold @ top prices.

40CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:31 pm

Hope123


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@invest thinker wrote:how interpreted CFLB hidden Gem, Directors knows, than us. better to exit CFLB. Director gave signal for upcoming financial results earliest. please think, if co. financial well perform, director never exit early. Directors already gave signal some shares,

RAL
CFLB
RWSL
PAP

WHAT happened recently that share price.. 

this is my point of view, if i am wrong.. pls, tell me. 

do you believe how many CFLB subsidiary perform well this qtr? forget about price changes.. i highlighted financial performance. most of co. suffer with losses. director knows, future also. when financial stat, uploaded they will again collect shares @ lower prices.. they again sold @ top prices.

What number of shares director was sold out?

41CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:37 pm

dayandacool

dayandacool
Moderator
Moderator
@invest thinker wrote:how interpreted CFLB hidden Gem, Directors knows, than us. better to exit CFLB. Director gave signal for upcoming financial results earliest. please think, if co. financial well perform, director never exit early. Directors already gave signal some shares,

RAL
CFLB
RWSL
PAP

WHAT happened recently that share price.. 

this is my point of view, if i am wrong.. pls, tell me. 

do you believe how many CFLB subsidiary perform well this qtr? forget about price changes.. i highlighted financial performance. most of co. suffer with losses. director knows, future also. when financial stat, uploaded they will again collect shares @ lower prices.. they again sold @ top prices.

Rise of Kota is a sign of things to come for CFLB. many other subsidiaries will record better earnings in Q3 compared to Q2. Next could be LDEV and COLO, all will aid CFLB.

My 2 cents. Very Happy

Disposal by Rajaratnam's is nothing new. If you still don't agree, check the disposal of shares in KOTA by Rajaratnam's in September. and today nearly 50% gain in price of KOTA.



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42CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:40 pm

Kipling


Expert
Expert
DC
Bit confused. 
“Record better earnings in Q3” 
Do you mean September or December??

Yes DC
I read someone in TEC (WS or BB) wrote Rajaratnam does this & usually transfer to known parties.



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43CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:43 pm

dayandacool

dayandacool
Moderator
Moderator
@Kipling wrote:DC
Bit confused. 
“Record better earnings in Q3” 
Do you mean September or December??
Q3 and Q4.. specially plantations with Rubber.

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44CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:46 pm

Kipling


Expert
Expert
Sep or December Q???

45CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:46 pm

invest thinker

invest thinker
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Hope123
@invest thinker wrote:how interpreted CFLB hidden Gem, Directors knows, than us. better to exit CFLB. Director gave signal for upcoming financial results earliest. please think, if co. financial well perform, director never exit early. Directors already gave signal some shares,

RAL
CFLB
RWSL
PAP

WHAT happened recently that share price.. 

this is my point of view, if i am wrong.. pls, tell me. 

do you believe how many CFLB subsidiary perform well this qtr? forget about price changes.. i highlighted financial performance. most of co. suffer with losses. director knows, future also. when financial stat, uploaded they will again collect shares @ lower prices.. they again sold @ top prices.

What number of shares director was sold out?




@Hope123,

director buy 10,146

director sold  370,000


dont misunderstanding me. every director is not day trader. 




Hope123


Hope123

Hope123

46CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:48 pm

dayandacool

dayandacool
Moderator
Moderator
@Kipling wrote:Sep or December Q???
Both Q3 and Q4

Both September and December. Laughing Laughing

47CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:49 pm

invest thinker

invest thinker
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Shocked Laughing Laughing Razz

48CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:51 pm

dayandacool

dayandacool
Moderator
Moderator
@invest thinker wrote:Hope123
@invest thinker wrote:how interpreted CFLB hidden Gem, Directors knows, than us. better to exit CFLB. Director gave signal for upcoming financial results earliest. please think, if co. financial well perform, director never exit early. Directors already gave signal some shares,

RAL
CFLB
RWSL
PAP

WHAT happened recently that share price.. 

this is my point of view, if i am wrong.. pls, tell me. 

do you believe how many CFLB subsidiary perform well this qtr? forget about price changes.. i highlighted financial performance. most of co. suffer with losses. director knows, future also. when financial stat, uploaded they will again collect shares @ lower prices.. they again sold @ top prices.

What number of shares director was sold out?




@Hope123,

director buy 10,146

director sold  370,000


dont misunderstanding me. every director is not day trader. 




Hope123




Hope123



Hope123


@invest thinker. 

Same director sold massive amount of KOTA in mid september. Come mid October share gains 50% in price. You can never judge a share by it's director dealings. There are many factors affecting the price. Investor sentiment being one of them. Very Happy

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49CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:54 pm

dayandacool

dayandacool
Moderator
Moderator
@Kipling wrote:DC
Bit confused. 
“Record better earnings in Q3” 
Do you mean September or December??

Yes DC
I read someone in TEC (WS or BB) wrote Rajaratnam does this & usually transfer to known parties.

@kipling
Yes,It's an observed common practice of Rajaratnams. Very Happy

50CFLB hidden gem - Page 2 Empty Re: CFLB hidden gem Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:04 pm

dayandacool

dayandacool
Moderator
Moderator
Having said all this, Don't get me wrong on this. I see this trading above 18 in the MT. But it's not going to happen over night gentleman. Smile Smile Smile

Buying on the Pull backs is the way to go!!!

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