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FINANCIAL CHRONICLE™ » CORPORATE CHRONICLE™ » TPL profit up than 1000%

TPL profit up than 1000%

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Chithi
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26TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:27 am

xhunter


Moderator
Moderator

Teller wrote:Yes , this scenario works this way , sl-investor has uploaded my youtube videos screen shot @8.54 PM, As equity forum user , there is a way to get ip and suburb city. As im the admin of my channel, there is a way to look live viewers location .  So my video snap shot time means , its watched time also its equal to forum posting time . So approximately 800x800 m2 , same user did this . And the comments which i got earlier videos and the commented time, i k now who commented . So both are same . Assumption is correct .
anyway it is not a IP comparison,  it is location comparison right?
Youtube analytics doesn't give you the viewers IP , right?


It is obvious that two locations should be same.
To take a screenshot someone should watch the video.
so same person should login to equity forum to post it.


so it is obvious the location that youtube video was watched and location that user login to equity forum is same.


so it is not a technical proof that this youtuber and SL-investor is one person.


I am not interested about this youtuber or SL-invester or whether it is same person or not.
I am only interested on this tracking and tracing. 
Thanks.

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27TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:20 am

xhunter


Moderator
Moderator

I jump into this thread just because of my curiosity on IP tracing and tracking.
But then i went through TPL report. yes , results are good.
is it that great?
No. traders can get something out of it, but long term investors should pay their attention to details in this report.

at a glance why promoters say that a great performance. their tag line "profit up by more than 1000%".
But these are the detail you have to pay your attention.

Revenue was increased by 9% (due to last time low/negative profit, now promoters are trying to highlight the profit improvement as a percentage to fool you ). 

Now you have to find out how they have increased their revenue .
1. does it started to generated revenue from something they have invested in few years ago or long time back.
2. is it because of world tea (and other ex: Rubber) price 
3. is it because of USD to LKR rate difference
4. is it because of operational (including sales cost) cost cut down
5. have they produced more (capacity increased) 


Once you found out the factors cause to this 9% revenue increase , then you have to find out "how sustainable these factors".
ex: if it is because of tea price and USD to LKR rates, then you should be able to predict the world tea price and USD to LKR rates for the next two years.

if it is because of "increased capacity and utilization" , then what is the reason, have they invested on new machine, has number of workers increased, is it something one off thing because of whether conditions.

So my point is , promoters will use very attractive tag lines to promote normal report or performance as excellent reports.
NOTE : i know nothing about TPL, this might be a supper report, but pay your attention, just dont follow youtubers who ask you to sell plantation shares or invest on shares because it profit increased by 32000%.

28TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:37 am

xhora


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:Yes , this scenario works this way , sl-investor has uploaded my youtube videos screen shot @8.54 PM, As equity forum user , there is a way to get ip and suburb city. As im the admin of my channel, there is a way to look live viewers location .  So my video snap shot time means , its watched time also its equal to forum posting time . So approximately 800x800 m2 , same user did this . And the comments which i got earlier videos and the commented time, i k now who commented . So both are same . Assumption is correct .

As a person who works in Telecom side, I can definitely say this is a wrong assumption. there are not enough IP addresses to give to each and every person so we bundle thousands of users to a single IP (Technical term NAT) so it's common for people to have the same IP address.

But we can track individual users from another way to suppport criminal investigation activities

29TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:38 am

Teller


Moderator
Moderator

You can not compare plantation company quarter on quarter, if you compare recent report to earlier quarter, its not reasonable for plantation stocks . Normally business is seasonal and crop may decide on whether conditions ,world supply , current tea socks ,etc.
I compared here recent 6 months vs last year 6 months in same period ( remember recent 6 month 32,000% profit increase even country lock down situations too- previous year loss 533,000 rupees converted to 176 million profit).
When it comes to TPL , its looks production same but Revenue increased due to world tea prices . Rupee depreciation impact is not much if you compare usd Vs Lkr.
But TPL has 1200 short term investment which will add 1 eps easily . They own 2 hydro power units (51%), also they started to produce massive production of greeen tea. Actually what TPL tried to did , do some value additions rather than selling raw tea. Example same like dilmah , how they are in profit always (value addition ) , also Tpl has some nice management practices like profit sharing to employees. If estate get more profit , portion of profit will be distributed. So employee motivation will increase. Its crystal clear this is just the start of their journey , and they will produce quality tea further . Tpl is the best tea production in the country in terms of quality and most of the time they get the highest per KG. Further expansion plan on Tpl business discussed in recently . Buy hold sell up to you but For me Tpl is a gem . Its looks totally debt free company with a quality cash flow. Unexperienced youtubers will compare quarter on quarter and spread the negatives.

dayandacool, Chithi, Kipling, priyangatks, RJ1010 and Win Win like this post

30TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:49 am

Hairoos


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

exactly

31TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:14 am

subash81


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:You can not compare plantation company quarter on quarter, if you compare recent report to earlier quarter, its not reasonable for plantation stocks . Normally business is seasonal and crop may decide on whether conditions ,world supply , current tea socks ,etc.
I compared here recent 6 months vs last year 6 months in same period ( remember recent 6 month 32,000% profit increase even country lock down situations too- previous year loss 533,000 rupees converted to 176 million profit).
When it comes to TPL , its looks production same but Revenue increased due to world tea prices . Rupee depreciation impact is not much if you compare usd Vs Lkr.
But TPL has 1200 short term investment which will add 1 eps easily . They own 2 hydro power units (51%), also they started to produce massive production of greeen tea. Actually what TPL tried to did , do some value additions rather than selling raw tea. Example same like dilmah , how they are in profit always (value addition ) , also Tpl has some nice management practices like profit sharing to employees. If estate get more profit , portion of profit will be distributed. So employee motivation will increase.  Its crystal clear this is just the start of their journey , and they will produce quality tea further . Tpl is the best tea production in the country in terms of quality and most of the time they get the highest per KG.  Further expansion plan on Tpl business discussed in recently . Buy hold sell up to you but  For me Tpl is a gem . Its looks totally debt free company with a quality cash flow. Unexperienced youtubers will compare quarter on quarter and spread the negatives.

Yes 
December better result

32TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:14 am

subash81


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:You can not compare plantation company quarter on quarter, if you compare recent report to earlier quarter, its not reasonable for plantation stocks . Normally business is seasonal and crop may decide on whether conditions ,world supply , current tea socks ,etc.
I compared here recent 6 months vs last year 6 months in same period ( remember recent 6 month 32,000% profit increase even country lock down situations too- previous year loss 533,000 rupees converted to 176 million profit).
When it comes to TPL , its looks production same but Revenue increased due to world tea prices . Rupee depreciation impact is not much if you compare usd Vs Lkr.
But TPL has 1200 short term investment which will add 1 eps easily . They own 2 hydro power units (51%), also they started to produce massive production of greeen tea. Actually what TPL tried to did , do some value additions rather than selling raw tea. Example same like dilmah , how they are in profit always (value addition ) , also Tpl has some nice management practices like profit sharing to employees. If estate get more profit , portion of profit will be distributed. So employee motivation will increase.  Its crystal clear this is just the start of their journey , and they will produce quality tea further . Tpl is the best tea production in the country in terms of quality and most of the time they get the highest per KG.  Further expansion plan on Tpl business discussed in recently . Buy hold sell up to you but  For me Tpl is a gem . Its looks totally debt free company with a quality cash flow. Unexperienced youtubers will compare quarter on quarter and spread the negatives.

Yes 
December better result

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33TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:27 am

noels


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

You better check the quarterly EPS, which has been dropped drastically.

34TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:53 am

xhunter

xhunter
Moderator
Moderator

Never miss a single piece of information.
facts
5% revenue change will make a huge difference in profit.
revenue is so sensitive against world tea price.

is this the first time TPL shows this level of revenue, if it did, what was the share price it went after that performance, what happened latter?
information is everywhere just find out them,

again TPL might be the best share. but you should decide that not someone else.

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35TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:02 pm

Teller

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Here important thing is tea price uptrend at least next 2 years, till corona is there ( i pray for god not to so), tea prices will up . Also world stock is less due to higher consumption . Unlike other years , green tea has come forwarded. Tpl produces it and expabded its pant capacity and now on goin

36TPL profit up than 1000% - Page 2 Empty Re: TPL profit up than 1000% Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:38 pm

xhunter

xhunter
Moderator
Moderator

Teller wrote:Here important thing is tea price uptrend at least next 2 years, till corona is there ( i pray for god not to so), tea prices will up . Also world stock is less due to higher consumption . Unlike other years , green tea has come forwarded. Tpl produces it and expabded its pant capacity and now on goin
That is exactly my point, person who is going to invest should try to forecast this and he or she should not depend on prediction made by some one else,
at lest investor should have seen the today price and what the price was at September.

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