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21TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:43 am

samaritan


Moderator
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@Junior investor wrote:I have bought hotel stocks and I will be buying hotels.

මම හෝටල් කොටස් ගත්තා සහා ඉස්සරහට අඩු උනොත් තවත් ගන්නවා.
If you are buying hotels let me be the broker please.TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Icon_lol

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22TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:59 am

Vishwanarth


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@samaritan wrote:
@Junior investor wrote:I have bought hotel stocks and I will be buying hotels.

මම හෝටල් කොටස් ගත්තා සහා ඉස්සරහට අඩු උනොත් තවත් ගන්නවා.
If you are buying hotels let me be the broker please.TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Icon_lol

He can get benefits from hotels by 2023 onwards. Some bought hotels by selling EXPO, DIPD, HAYC and now again buying back what they sold.

23TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:53 am

rajini


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
This is the typical retailers mindset. Share market never has been controlled by retailers. It has been always done by the long term and medium term investors. Hotel shares are in the rock bottom due to the lock downs but are there any hotels to be sold ?

The recovery will not take that long. People who got caught to the virus don't need the vaccine. They have the antibodies made by the body. I guess there are more than 500 million total cases up to now. Pandemics gets over even without a vaccine in 2 - 3 years. Once patients get cured they become dead links to the virus.

People including scientists predicted it would take at least 2 years to create a successful vaccine. But less than a year we are having 3 successful vaccines from Russia, China , Pfizer. Moderna, Oxford, Johnson also were promising during the early stages. They also increasing the production capabilities.

Now we will look our inbound tourist share.

EU
India
China
Russia and East Europe
North America
Australia

Most of our tourists will have a vaccine in 2021. There is an issue with Indian tourists.

We should not forget the local tourists and  support from the government to the industry.
Analyze the last quarter hotel revenues

AHPL - 642 million
AHUN - 371
KHL - 600
TRAN -300
JETS - 275

PALM - 180

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24TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:49 pm

judecroos


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@rajini wrote:This is the typical retailers mindset. Share market never has been controlled by retailers. It has been always done by the long term and medium term investors. Hotel shares are in the rock bottom due to the lock downs but are there any hotels to be sold ?

The recovery will not take that long. People who got caught to the virus don't need the vaccine. They have the antibodies made by the body. I guess there are more than 500 million total cases up to now. Pandemics gets over even without a vaccine in 2 - 3 years. Once patients get cured they become dead links to the virus.

People including scientists predicted it would take at least 2 years to create a successful vaccine. But less than a year we are having 3 successful vaccines from Russia, China , Pfizer. Moderna, Oxford, Johnson also were promising during the early stages. They also increasing the production capabilities.

Now we will look our inbound tourist share.

EU
India
China
Russia and East Europe
North America
Australia

Most of our tourists will have a vaccine in 2021. There is an issue with Indian tourists.

We should not forget the local tourists and  support from the government to the industry.
Analyze the last quarter hotel revenues

AHPL - 642 million
AHUN - 371
KHL - 600
TRAN -300
JETS - 275

PALM - 180
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy  In Sri Lanka the tourism sector will not recover for another six months or one year time. And don't get caught to these shares because this sector needs more than two years to recover loses after. The media will make you fool but as I am working in Europe, I can tell you surely Europeans will not visit SRI LANKA in the near future. There are very cheap and good quality service destinations are there now even in Europe. So if the other countries will follow Europeans what will happen to SRI LANKA tourism ?

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25TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:11 pm

subash81


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Vishwanarth wrote:
@samaritan wrote:
@Junior investor wrote:I have bought hotel stocks and I will be buying hotels.

මම හෝටල් කොටස් ගත්තා සහා ඉස්සරහට අඩු උනොත් තවත් ගන්නවා.
If you are buying hotels let me be the broker please.TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Icon_lol

He can get benefits from hotels by 2023 onwards. Some bought hotels by selling EXPO, DIPD, HAYC and now again buying back what they sold.

Correct

Even during good time some hotels operated al loss and it may take another 2 years for hotels to recover
However, if someone want to buy now and keep for another 3+ years even without any dividend income let them do so

Others can buy good dividend and profit making companies like
HAYC
DIPD
HAYL
RCL
LWL
EXPO etc.

26TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:33 pm

rajini


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@judecroos wrote:
@rajini wrote:This is the typical retailers mindset. Share market never has been controlled by retailers. It has been always done by the long term and medium term investors. Hotel shares are in the rock bottom due to the lock downs but are there any hotels to be sold ?

The recovery will not take that long. People who got caught to the virus don't need the vaccine. They have the antibodies made by the body. I guess there are more than 500 million total cases up to now. Pandemics gets over even without a vaccine in 2 - 3 years. Once patients get cured they become dead links to the virus.

People including scientists predicted it would take at least 2 years to create a successful vaccine. But less than a year we are having 3 successful vaccines from Russia, China , Pfizer. Moderna, Oxford, Johnson also were promising during the early stages. They also increasing the production capabilities.

Now we will look our inbound tourist share.

EU
India
China
Russia and East Europe
North America
Australia

Most of our tourists will have a vaccine in 2021. There is an issue with Indian tourists.

We should not forget the local tourists and  support from the government to the industry.
Analyze the last quarter hotel revenues

AHPL - 642 million
AHUN - 371
KHL - 600
TRAN -300
JETS - 275

PALM - 180
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy  In Sri Lanka the tourism sector will not recover for another six months or one year time. And don't get caught to these shares because this sector needs more than two years to recover loses after. The media will make you fool but as I am working in Europe, I can tell you surely Europeans will not visit SRI LANKA in the near future. There are very cheap and good quality service destinations are there now even in Europe. So if the other countries will follow Europeans what will happen to SRI LANKA tourism ?

No offense but Europeans not sharing their travel plans with unknown people from developing nations including me , you and other people.
Why anyone lives in Europe and invest in CSE ?  You can buy many low risk , liquid shares from there. Europe must be the retailers paradise these days. Indexes are highly fluctuating.

People who didn't talk to you are like to visit Sri Lanka. JKH said winter forward bookings are reaching pre-COVID-19 levels. The tourist industry in the country consist of natural values, nothing artificial.

http://www.dailymirror.lk/business-news/JKH-says-winter-bookings-nearing-pre-COVID-levels/273-196054

But there are challenges for the industry. Airports are closed since March, airlines can't operate with lock downs. These matters can be addressed very easily.

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27TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:46 pm

RJ1010


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
I can only say some people are living in a fantasy land 😄 I will not be touching hotel shares at least until end of 2021. Enough said.
GL to all hotel share lovers.

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28TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:12 pm

soileconomy

soileconomy
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
If a hotel rally started somehow .there will be lot of followers who wants quick buck and shares will appreciate at least 30%.less turnover for last few days suggest that sideliners will active again on what it moves.

29TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:45 pm

Junior investor

Junior investor
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
how many gamblers on this forum? apparently a lot

මේ ෆෝරම් එකේ සූදුකාරයො කී දෙනෙක් ඉන්නවද? පේන හැටියට ගොඩාක්

30TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:30 pm

judecroos


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@rajini wrote:
@judecroos wrote:
@rajini wrote:This is the typical retailers mindset. Share market never has been controlled by retailers. It has been always done by the long term and medium term investors. Hotel shares are in the rock bottom due to the lock downs but are there any hotels to be sold ?

The recovery will not take that long. People who got caught to the virus don't need the vaccine. They have the antibodies made by the body. I guess there are more than 500 million total cases up to now. Pandemics gets over even without a vaccine in 2 - 3 years. Once patients get cured they become dead links to the virus.

People including scientists predicted it would take at least 2 years to create a successful vaccine. But less than a year we are having 3 successful vaccines from Russia, China , Pfizer. Moderna, Oxford, Johnson also were promising during the early stages. They also increasing the production capabilities.

Now we will look our inbound tourist share.

EU
India
China
Russia and East Europe
North America
Australia

Most of our tourists will have a vaccine in 2021. There is an issue with Indian tourists.

We should not forget the local tourists and  support from the government to the industry.
Analyze the last quarter hotel revenues

AHPL - 642 million
AHUN - 371
KHL - 600
TRAN -300
JETS - 275

PALM - 180
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy  In Sri Lanka the tourism sector will not recover for another six months or one year time. And don't get caught to these shares because this sector needs more than two years to recover loses after. The media will make you fool but as I am working in Europe, I can tell you surely Europeans will not visit SRI LANKA in the near future. There are very cheap and good quality service destinations are there now even in Europe. So if the other countries will follow Europeans what will happen to SRI LANKA tourism ?

No offense but Europeans not sharing their travel plans with unknown people from developing nations including me , you and other people.
Why anyone lives in Europe and invest in CSE ?  You can buy many low risk , liquid shares from there. Europe must be the retailers paradise these days. Indexes are highly fluctuating.

People who didn't talk to you are like to visit Sri Lanka. JKH said winter forward bookings are reaching pre-COVID-19 levels. The tourist industry in the country consist of natural values, nothing artificial.

http://www.dailymirror.lk/business-news/JKH-says-winter-bookings-nearing-pre-COVID-levels/273-196054

But there are challenges for the industry. Airports are closed since March, airlines can't operate with lock downs. These matters can be addressed very easily.
Good luck I respect your predictions. You may go ahead with your plans. Smile Smile Smile Smile . I live in MUNICH and I am a Sri Lankan skilled migrant. I am in this industry for more than 30 years. I mentioned what I felt but new comers to CSE will be disappointed if they touch the hotel sector.

31TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:35 pm

sureshot

sureshot
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
We are trading in  CSE......
Lets see how investors enter into hotels shares after the budget   ....

I Love to watch Reef Group moving particularly . Very Happy

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32TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:42 pm

sureshot

sureshot
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@RJ1010 wrote:I can only say some people are living in a fantasy land 😄 I will not be touching hotel shares at least until end of 2021. Enough said.
GL to all hotel share lovers.

Do not forget that CSE  is a fantasy land .

buy when others sell.....
sell when others buy..... Very Happy

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33TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:00 pm

Thushara Ayya

Thushara Ayya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
KHL, REEF, GHLL, AHUN, HUNA will start the game...

34TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:05 pm

RJ1010


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Thushara Ayya wrote:KHL, REEF, GHLL, AHUN, HUNA will start the game...
Already had a quick rally last week which crash landed in a day. You are expecting another rally? Very risky entering these rallies. Not recommended for newcomers. Old hands may do a quick trade.

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35TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:56 pm

hiransilva23


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@RJ1010 wrote:
@Thushara Ayya wrote:KHL, REEF, GHLL, AHUN, HUNA will start the game...
Already had a quick rally last week which crash landed in a day. You are expecting another rally? Very risky entering these rallies. Not recommended for newcomers. Old hands may do a quick trade.
No need to buy,you will have a chance to sell if you are already holding😊😊

36TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:41 pm

sureshot

sureshot
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Hotel shares are trading at a CORONA OFFER "Buy one Get one" Free.

I buy when there is an offer ....... Laughing

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37TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:01 pm

kottuwa

kottuwa
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@sureshot wrote:Hotel shares are trading at a CORONA OFFER "Buy one Get one" Free.

I buy when there is an offer ....... Laughing
Have u tried the buy one get one free offer from  bigbite biriyani what they do is they take a normal potion of cheese kottu/biriyani n they give it to us in 2 packages.

if u haven't tried yet try it then u will understand  buy one get 1 free doesn't always give u free.

but pizza hut, they give what they promised so buy from pizzahut(dipd/hayc/glas/tyre/rich)

38TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:49 am

judecroos


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@sureshot wrote:Hotel shares are trading at a CORONA OFFER "Buy one Get one" Free.

I buy when there is an offer ....... Laughing
Please don't get caught to this tourism sector counters because tourism will not get to normal for another two three years. do your research before you enter.

39TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:07 pm

sureshot

sureshot
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@judecroos wrote:
@sureshot wrote:Hotel shares are trading at a CORONA OFFER "Buy one Get one" Free.

I buy when there is an offer ....... Laughing
Please don't get caught to this tourism sector counters because tourism will not get to normal for another two three years. do your research before you enter.
I have started my research..... 
Hope you have finished your research  Very Happy

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40TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:01 pm

judecroos


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@sureshot wrote:
@judecroos wrote:
@sureshot wrote:Hotel shares are trading at a CORONA OFFER "Buy one Get one" Free.

I buy when there is an offer ....... Laughing
Please don't get caught to this tourism sector counters because tourism will not get to normal for another two three years. do your research before you enter.
I have started my research..... 
Hope you have finished your research  Very Happy
Good luck anyway.

41TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:25 pm

CPGOMEZ71


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
Even if our airport is opened, its doubtful that we will get tourist as we used to get during the pre covid era. Thus it may take at least another 12 to 18 months for us to get tourists and for hotels to run with 80-100% occupancy. To make profits after recovering it may take longer than that.

Hence I do agree with judecroos as there are many counters that we could make money rather than hotels at this situation.

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42TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:30 pm

Kevinmikegrit


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Gamblers do make money betting on certain shares, but sometimes you can lose more than what you bargain for. Then you will have to hold it for at least 2 or 3 years to break even. So I will stay away from hotels until there is at least a confirmation on reopening the airports.

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43TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:40 pm

judecroos


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@CPGOMEZ71 wrote:Even if our airport is opened, its doubtful that we will get tourist as we used to get during the pre covid era. Thus it may take at least another 12 to 18 months for us to get tourists and for hotels to run with 80-100% occupancy. To make profits after recovering it may take longer than that.

Hence I do agree with judecroos as there are many counters that we could make money rather than hotels at this situation.
We should advice our members honestly without any advantage in return.  Smile Smile Smile

44TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:44 pm

CPGOMEZ71


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
@judecroos wrote:
@CPGOMEZ71 wrote:Even if our airport is opened, its doubtful that we will get tourist as we used to get during the pre covid era. Thus it may take at least another 12 to 18 months for us to get tourists and for hotels to run with 80-100% occupancy. To make profits after recovering it may take longer than that.

Hence I do agree with judecroos as there are many counters that we could make money rather than hotels at this situation.
We should advice our members honestly without any advantage in return.  Smile Smile Smile
Agreed 1000 times. The motive of this forum is to share our knowledge and information. It has to be a WIN WIN situation for everyone.

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45TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:31 am

sureshot

sureshot
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Vishwanarth wrote:
@samaritan wrote:
@Junior investor wrote:I have bought hotel stocks and I will be buying hotels.

මම හෝටල් කොටස් ගත්තා සහා ඉස්සරහට අඩු උනොත් තවත් ගන්නවා.
If you are buying hotels let me be the broker please.TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Icon_lol

He can get benefits from hotels by 2023 onwards. Some bought hotels by selling EXPO, DIPD, HAYC and now again buying back what they sold.

Now Some are ready to sell  Expo.DIPD,Hayc and buying back Hotels  Very Happy

http://www.ft.lk/top-story/New-guidelines-in-the-offing-to-welcome-tourists-from-1-Jan/26-709594

46TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:48 am

samaritan


Moderator
Moderator
@sureshot wrote:
@Vishwanarth wrote:
@samaritan wrote:
@Junior investor wrote:I have bought hotel stocks and I will be buying hotels.

මම හෝටල් කොටස් ගත්තා සහා ඉස්සරහට අඩු උනොත් තවත් ගන්නවා.
If you are buying hotels let me be the broker please.TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Icon_lol

He can get benefits from hotels by 2023 onwards. Some bought hotels by selling EXPO, DIPD, HAYC and now again buying back what they sold.

Now Some are ready to sell  Expo.DIPD,Hayc and buying back Hotels  Very Happy

http://www.ft.lk/top-story/New-guidelines-in-the-offing-to-welcome-tourists-from-1-Jan/26-709594
Expo has bigger opportunity with the transport of vaccines worldwide and to exploit new opportunities in e-commerce. Hayc has an ever growing global demand for activated carbon that has nothing to do with the pandemic.

Revival of tourism is a welcome sign but you will get dividends posthumously with the restrictions imposed.TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Icon_lol


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47TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:57 am

subash81


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@samaritan wrote:
@sureshot wrote:
@Vishwanarth wrote:
@samaritan wrote:
@Junior investor wrote:I have bought hotel stocks and I will be buying hotels.

මම හෝටල් කොටස් ගත්තා සහා ඉස්සරහට අඩු උනොත් තවත් ගන්නවා.
If you are buying hotels let me be the broker please.TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Icon_lol

He can get benefits from hotels by 2023 onwards. Some bought hotels by selling EXPO, DIPD, HAYC and now again buying back what they sold.

Now Some are ready to sell  Expo.DIPD,Hayc and buying back Hotels  Very Happy

http://www.ft.lk/top-story/New-guidelines-in-the-offing-to-welcome-tourists-from-1-Jan/26-709594
Expo has bigger opportunity with the transport of vaccines worldwide and to exploit new opportunities in e-commerce. Hayc has an ever growing global demand for activated carbon that has nothing to do with the pandemic.

Revival of tourism is a welcome sign but you will get dividends posthumously with the restrictions imposed.TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Icon_lol

How foolish those guys if they want to sell HAYC, DIPD and EXPO 

As you said HAYC has almost nothing to do with Covid or vaccine and they cannot cater to the ever growing demand 

DIPD- even if vaccine comes, need over 7 billion gloves for vaccination process

EXPO- has more business with vaccine 

Hotel - even during good time occupancy is around 60-70% only in peak season fully occupied. It will take minimum 1-2 years to recover this industry

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48TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:02 am

RJ1010


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Subash completely agree with you. I was also going to mention if someone wants to sell hayc, expo, DIPD to buy hotel shares then that person don’t know anything about investing vs trading and how to manage a share portfolio.

Anyway the news is good for tourism sector. All tourism businesses have suffered too much during this year.
This news might also spark another quick hotel rally.

49TOURISM INDUSTRY - Page 2 Empty Re: TOURISM INDUSTRY Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:26 am

RJ1010


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
As predicted a hotel rally again today based on the airport opening news

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DamithAsian


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Waskaduwa hotel

JKH

Aitken
moving. Very Happy

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