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[ltr]ජිනීවා චන්දෙන් පසු හෙට මොකක් වෙයි ද ? හෙට 24 අපි නොහිතන විදිහට සමහර විට මාර්කට් එක හැසිරෙන්න පුලුවන් [/ltr]
[ltr]පහුගිය කාලේ මාර්කට් එකේ අවුල් වුනේ , අර SEC Circular එකෙන් පටන් අරන් බ්‍රෝකර් ණය අඩු කිරීම් එක්ක වගේම ජිනීවා මානව හිමිකම් ප්‍රශ්නේ නිසා වගේම [/ltr]
[ltr]විශේෂයෙන්ම ලොකු පොඩි ආයෝජකයන් ස්තාවර දිශාවක් ලැබෙනකම් බලන් හිටපු නිසා කියලත් අපිට හිතන්න බැරි ද ?[/ltr]
[ltr]සමහර විට මෙම සමුළුව වෙතින් අපට දෙන යෝජනා අප හිතනවාට වඩා අහිතකර වෙන්නත් ඉඩ ඇතැයි සිතා ,[/ltr]
[ltr] සහ එම යෝජනාව ට ආයොජන ආර්තික,ආනයන,අපනයන සම්භාදක පවා අනාගතයේ දමන්න කටයුතු යෙදෙන්නට පුලුවන් කියා අදහස් කොට වැඩි පිරිසක් ආයෝජකයන් කොටස් වෙළදපලෙ ගණුදෙනු වලින් දුරස් වීමත් [/ltr]
[ltr]එක්කම සැලසුම් සහගතව ජිනීවා සහ SEC/CSE circulars යොදාගෙන පහුගිය කාලය පුරාම සමහරු කොටස් වෙළදපලෙ පසුබෑමක් ඇතිකරා වෙන්නත් පුලුවන් [/ltr]
[ltr]එම කාරනා සියල්ලම නිරාකරණය වී සුලු සහ මධ්‍යම ආයෝජකයන් ගේ බ්‍රොර්කර් ණය අඩු වීමත් [/ltr]
[ltr]ලැයිස්තු ගත තාක්ශණික ව ශක්තිමත් ලාභාන්ශ ගෙවන සමාගම් කොටස් වල මිල ගනන් සෑහෙන පහල ගොස් ඇති වකවානුවක කොළඹ කොටස් වෙළදපල සමස්ත මිල දර්ශක අගයන් 7000 න් පහල ගොස් ඇති වකවානුවක[/ltr]
[ltr]අයවැයෙන් සහ රජයෙන් දේශීය නිශ්පාදන සහ අපනයන සමාගම් වලට කෘෂිකාර්මික අන්ශ වලට තල්ලුවක් දෙන කාලයක[/ltr]
[ltr]බැන්කු පොළී අනුපාත ඉතා අඩු මට්ටමක පවත්වාගෙන යන කාලයක[/ltr]
[ltr]රටට වැඩදායි හෝ අවැඩදායී වැඩ කරත් පාර්ලිමේන්තුවේ ඉතා අධික බලතුලනයක් ඇති ස්තාවරම අය්යා මල්ලො රජයක් ඇති කාලයක [/ltr]
[ltr]ආසියාවේ මුල්ම වරාය නගරය නීතිගත ව ආයෝජන වලට විවර වන්නට ඔන්න මෙන්න කාලයක [/ltr]
[ltr]කොළඹ කොටස් වල ආයෝජනය කර විශ්ලේෂණය කොට කල් යල් සොයා බලා නිවැරැදි වෙලාවල් වලට[/ltr]
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[ltr]විවිධත්වය ඇති සමාගම් 10 -15 වත් කොටස් එක්ක[/ltr]
[ltr] විවිධාන්ගීකරණය වූ කොටස් ගිණුමක් හදා ගන්න පුලුවන් නම් නරකද ? [/ltr]
[ltr]මේ ඒ සදහා කාලය නොවේ ද ? [/ltr]
[ltr]ණය සහ මාර්ජින් හරියටම.කළමණාකරනය කරගන්න අමතක.කරන්න එපා[/ltr]

Wickyz


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Manager - Equity Analytics
ස ට බුදුසරණයි

Eranga87


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Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
great times Smile , no any restriction at all. economic go ahead. Buy.

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madukp


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Expert
Even though there are no sanctions, market manipulators might bring it down tomorrow. continue the strategy being when it falls and sell when it up. Good luck!

Wickyz


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
GSP + ???

cheetah


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Panic sellers will sell their shares and people who have money will buy shares at lower prices.

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samaritan


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Moderator
@Wickyz wrote:GSP + ???
There is absolutely nothing that will affect the GSP+.


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Wickyz


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@samaritan wrote:
@Wickyz wrote:GSP + ???
There is absolutely nothing that will affect the GSP

Pls Pls see next week European Union Statetment 🤕🤕🤕

Mr. Wayne


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
@madukp wrote:Even though there are no sanctions, market manipulators might bring it down tomorrow. continue the strategy being when it falls and sell when it up. Good luc

The complete opposite may likely happen. 

Viyathmaga supporters need to prove a point.

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samaritan


Moderator
Moderator
@Wickyz wrote:
@samaritan wrote:
@Wickyz wrote:GSP + ???
There is absolutely nothing that will affect the GSP

Pls Pls see next week European Union Statetment 🤕🤕🤕
I repeat there will be nothing about GSP+. You will see!


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madukp


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Expert
@Mr. Wayne wrote:
@madukp wrote:Even though there are no sanctions, market manipulators might bring it down tomorrow. continue the strategy being when it falls and sell when it up. Good luc

The complete opposite may likely happen. 

Viyathmaga supporters need to prove a point.

The problem here, I don't see any sort of vision from gov side. This is a vital time for gov funds to buy valued shares. but we didn't see such a progressive act, just ANC whining around. Manipulators started to push back, let's see how it will be the end of the day.

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The market couldn't keep the positive momentum. There was no support against selling. Whoever support yesterday was not here today. And still, LOLC is one of the market mover and shaker, then DP's shares following the pattern. This swinging seems to be happening a few times. In the end, hopefully, the overall market will be turning to an uptrend according to my point of view. Hopefully this time 7000 will act as a good support level.

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@madukp wrote:The market couldn't keep the positive momentum. There was no support against selling. Whoever support yesterday was not here today. And still, LOLC is one of the market mover and shaker, then DP's shares following the pattern. This swinging seems to be happening a few times. In the end, hopefully, the overall market will be turning to an uptrend according to my point of view. Hopefully this time 7000 will act as a good support level.
you bring up an interesting point. it is "Whoever support yesterday was not here today". 
what do you think?
is it foreign retailers  buying? No
is it foreign institutional/fund buying? No 
is it local institutional/fund buying? No
is it local HNWIs buying ? maybe...... but not that probable... i don't know 
is it local retailers ? Yes, most probably.

so why they didn't support today? probably they might have bipolar disorder ... i don't know.

actually this is same people who  bought LOCL at 500/=,HAYC at 1600/= ,BIL at 7.20 , EXPO at 60/=, RCL at 420/= TILE,LWL,HEXP and few more.
their thinking pattern is  very easy to understand. still they believe prices they bought is reasonable and they never accept share prices were pumped in January and dumped on them. they belive SEC/CSE messed up otherwise market could have reached ASPI 20000.

so what they do is , they wait and accumulate buying power and after few days they tired of waiting (3-4 days maximum), FB groups and twitter and whats app groups converge them to one direction using ideas like "kabral rally" , when they see a slight uptrend they start to buy the same set of shares again.
when they run out their fund, again you can see EXPO at 43/= HAYC at 90/= VONE at 44/= DIPD at 42/=   (BIL and LOLC ,BRWN are driven by different set of people and some brokers ).


so now you can unlike this post because i mentioned shares EXPO,DIPD,HAYC,VONE etc....
so this is not about the future value, potential or their real value.

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@xhunter wrote:
@madukp wrote:The market couldn't keep the positive momentum. There was no support against selling. Whoever support yesterday was not here today. And still, LOLC is one of the market mover and shaker, then DP's shares following the pattern. This swinging seems to be happening a few times. In the end, hopefully, the overall market will be turning to an uptrend according to my point of view. Hopefully this time 7000 will act as a good support level.
you bring up an interesting point. it is "Whoever support yesterday was not here today". 
what do you think?
is it foreign retailers  buying? No
is it foreign institutional/fund buying? No 
is it local institutional/fund buying? No
is it local HNWIs buying ? maybe...... but not that probable... i don't know 
is it local retailers ? Yes, most probably.

so why they didn't support today? probably they might have bipolar disorder ... i don't know.

actually this is same people who  bought LOCL at 500/=,HAYC at 1600/= ,BIL at 7.20 , EXPO at 60/=, RCL at 420/= TILE,LWL,HEXP and few more.
their thinking pattern is  very easy to understand. still they believe prices they bought is reasonable and they never accept share prices were pumped in January and dumped on them. they belive SEC/CSE messed up otherwise market could have reached ASPI 20000.

so what they do is , they wait and accumulate buying power and after few days they tired of waiting (3-4 days maximum), FB groups and twitter and whats app groups converge them to one direction using ideas like "kabral rally" , when they see a slight uptrend they start to buy the same set of shares again.
when they run out their fund, again you can see EXPO at 43/= HAYC at 90/= VONE at 44/= DIPD at 42/=   (BIL and LOLC ,BRWN are driven by different set of people and some brokers ).


so now you can unlike this post because i mentioned shares EXPO,DIPD,HAYC,VONE etc....
so this is not about the future value, potential or their real value.

What i feel is totally different from your view... I feel the collectors (HNWI or any others) they start to collect once the market is low... 6850 to 7150 collection time from the bottom... once the market is recovering fast, they give a break or sell some at low to move the price down again and let the prices come down... again from bottom  they will start collecting... this pattern happened 2 times successfully and 3rd pattern just started, i feel tomorrow it will further drop..
this trend will continue until other investors realize the true value and hold it...

just my view only...

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xhunter

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@Mr. X wrote:
@xhunter wrote:
@madukp wrote:The market couldn't keep the positive momentum. There was no support against selling. Whoever support yesterday was not here today. And still, LOLC is one of the market mover and shaker, then DP's shares following the pattern. This swinging seems to be happening a few times. In the end, hopefully, the overall market will be turning to an uptrend according to my point of view. Hopefully this time 7000 will act as a good support level.
you bring up an interesting point. it is "Whoever support yesterday was not here today". 
what do you think?
is it foreign retailers  buying? No
is it foreign institutional/fund buying? No 
is it local institutional/fund buying? No
is it local HNWIs buying ? maybe...... but not that probable... i don't know 
is it local retailers ? Yes, most probably.

so why they didn't support today? probably they might have bipolar disorder ... i don't know.

actually this is same people who  bought LOCL at 500/=,HAYC at 1600/= ,BIL at 7.20 , EXPO at 60/=, RCL at 420/= TILE,LWL,HEXP and few more.
their thinking pattern is  very easy to understand. still they believe prices they bought is reasonable and they never accept share prices were pumped in January and dumped on them. they belive SEC/CSE messed up otherwise market could have reached ASPI 20000.

so what they do is , they wait and accumulate buying power and after few days they tired of waiting (3-4 days maximum), FB groups and twitter and whats app groups converge them to one direction using ideas like "kabral rally" , when they see a slight uptrend they start to buy the same set of shares again.
when they run out their fund, again you can see EXPO at 43/= HAYC at 90/= VONE at 44/= DIPD at 42/=   (BIL and LOLC ,BRWN are driven by different set of people and some brokers ).


so now you can unlike this post because i mentioned shares EXPO,DIPD,HAYC,VONE etc....
so this is not about the future value, potential or their real value.

What i feel is totally different from your view... I feel the collectors (HNWI or any others) they start to collect once the market is low... 6850 to 7150 collection time from the bottom... once the market is recovering fast, they give a break or sell some at low to move the price down again and let the prices come down... again from bottom  they will start collecting... this pattern happened 2 times successfully and 3rd pattern just started, i feel tomorrow it will further drop..
this trend will continue until other investors realize the true value and hold it...

just my view only...
definitely i agree with your first point. when market reach to lower point lot people will collect. but as a result of that if market went up , they will stop and stand still. they will never try to market bring down.

there are lot of retailers like that, they have fixed price , once they collected, for the next cycle they will further lower their prices.

other retailers are different, they buy it when prices are started to move up. then their demand will further move it up they will still continue buying and they are happy about it and they even share there thought saying that "rally has just began" , "did you enjoy the show". once they are exhausted  it will drop again. first type of retailers will wait until it reaches to their prices. 
part of the second type of retailers will also sell , some selling's will be there because of they sell due to unavoidable reasons.


so it is cycle.

anyway i also should say that "just my view only..." Very Happy Very Happy

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@xhunter wrote:
@Mr. X wrote:
@xhunter wrote:
@madukp wrote:The market couldn't keep the positive momentum. There was no support against selling. Whoever support yesterday was not here today. And still, LOLC is one of the market mover and shaker, then DP's shares following the pattern. This swinging seems to be happening a few times. In the end, hopefully, the overall market will be turning to an uptrend according to my point of view. Hopefully this time 7000 will act as a good support level.
you bring up an interesting point. it is "Whoever support yesterday was not here today". 
what do you think?
is it foreign retailers  buying? No
is it foreign institutional/fund buying? No 
is it local institutional/fund buying? No
is it local HNWIs buying ? maybe...... but not that probable... i don't know 
is it local retailers ? Yes, most probably.

so why they didn't support today? probably they might have bipolar disorder ... i don't know.

actually this is same people who  bought LOCL at 500/=,HAYC at 1600/= ,BIL at 7.20 , EXPO at 60/=, RCL at 420/= TILE,LWL,HEXP and few more.
their thinking pattern is  very easy to understand. still they believe prices they bought is reasonable and they never accept share prices were pumped in January and dumped on them. they belive SEC/CSE messed up otherwise market could have reached ASPI 20000.

so what they do is , they wait and accumulate buying power and after few days they tired of waiting (3-4 days maximum), FB groups and twitter and whats app groups converge them to one direction using ideas like "kabral rally" , when they see a slight uptrend they start to buy the same set of shares again.
when they run out their fund, again you can see EXPO at 43/= HAYC at 90/= VONE at 44/= DIPD at 42/=   (BIL and LOLC ,BRWN are driven by different set of people and some brokers ).


so now you can unlike this post because i mentioned shares EXPO,DIPD,HAYC,VONE etc....
so this is not about the future value, potential or their real value.

What i feel is totally different from your view... I feel the collectors (HNWI or any others) they start to collect once the market is low... 6850 to 7150 collection time from the bottom... once the market is recovering fast, they give a break or sell some at low to move the price down again and let the prices come down... again from bottom  they will start collecting... this pattern happened 2 times successfully and 3rd pattern just started, i feel tomorrow it will further drop..
this trend will continue until other investors realize the true value and hold it...

just my view only...
definitely i agree with your first point. when market reach to lower point lot people will collect. but as a result of that if market went up , they will stop and stand still. they will never try to market bring down.

there are lot of retailers like that, they have fixed price , once they collected, for the next cycle they will further lower their prices.

other retailers are different, they buy it when prices are started to move up. then their demand will further move it up they will still continue buying and they are happy about it and they even share there thought saying that "rally has just began" , "did you enjoy the show". once they are exhausted  it will drop again. first type of retailers will wait until it reaches to their prices. 
part of the second type of retailers will also sell , some selling's will be there because of they sell due to unavoidable reasons.


so it is cycle.

anyway i also should say that "just my view only..." Very Happy Very Happy

I don't really want to dislike your views Mr.X and Xhunter.
The market is a reflection of SriLankan investors/retailers (or gamblers).
I think both of you have valid points to understand current market cycles.

My individual view is most of the counters, including some of the market movers and shakers that XHunter also mentioned, are still undervalued. My view is base on company business and future potential and without considering current political chaos.

I agree with the part of Mr.X explanation of the way these parties collecting and controlling these counters.

Personally, I believe the market is overall in an oversold state and this vicious cycle will be a break at some point. But I don't ever represent the group who was daydreaming that CSE will be skyrocketed to ASPI 20k levels. But the Market should be reasonably moved to 10k levels gradually when companies start picking up to their values.

Ps: I hold most of the shares mentioned in this thread. VONE, LOLC, BIL, DPs shares at reasonable prices, and I believe they will provide a good return in near future.

xhunter

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@madukp wrote:
@xhunter wrote:
@Mr. X wrote:
@xhunter wrote:
@madukp wrote:The market couldn't keep the positive momentum. There was no support against selling. Whoever support yesterday was not here today. And still, LOLC is one of the market mover and shaker, then DP's shares following the pattern. This swinging seems to be happening a few times. In the end, hopefully, the overall market will be turning to an uptrend according to my point of view. Hopefully this time 7000 will act as a good support level.
you bring up an interesting point. it is "Whoever support yesterday was not here today". 
what do you think?
is it foreign retailers  buying? No
is it foreign institutional/fund buying? No 
is it local institutional/fund buying? No
is it local HNWIs buying ? maybe...... but not that probable... i don't know 
is it local retailers ? Yes, most probably.

so why they didn't support today? probably they might have bipolar disorder ... i don't know.

actually this is same people who  bought LOCL at 500/=,HAYC at 1600/= ,BIL at 7.20 , EXPO at 60/=, RCL at 420/= TILE,LWL,HEXP and few more.
their thinking pattern is  very easy to understand. still they believe prices they bought is reasonable and they never accept share prices were pumped in January and dumped on them. they belive SEC/CSE messed up otherwise market could have reached ASPI 20000.

so what they do is , they wait and accumulate buying power and after few days they tired of waiting (3-4 days maximum), FB groups and twitter and whats app groups converge them to one direction using ideas like "kabral rally" , when they see a slight uptrend they start to buy the same set of shares again.
when they run out their fund, again you can see EXPO at 43/= HAYC at 90/= VONE at 44/= DIPD at 42/=   (BIL and LOLC ,BRWN are driven by different set of people and some brokers ).


so now you can unlike this post because i mentioned shares EXPO,DIPD,HAYC,VONE etc....
so this is not about the future value, potential or their real value.

What i feel is totally different from your view... I feel the collectors (HNWI or any others) they start to collect once the market is low... 6850 to 7150 collection time from the bottom... once the market is recovering fast, they give a break or sell some at low to move the price down again and let the prices come down... again from bottom  they will start collecting... this pattern happened 2 times successfully and 3rd pattern just started, i feel tomorrow it will further drop..
this trend will continue until other investors realize the true value and hold it...

just my view only...
definitely i agree with your first point. when market reach to lower point lot people will collect. but as a result of that if market went up , they will stop and stand still. they will never try to market bring down.

there are lot of retailers like that, they have fixed price , once they collected, for the next cycle they will further lower their prices.

other retailers are different, they buy it when prices are started to move up. then their demand will further move it up they will still continue buying and they are happy about it and they even share there thought saying that "rally has just began" , "did you enjoy the show". once they are exhausted  it will drop again. first type of retailers will wait until it reaches to their prices. 
part of the second type of retailers will also sell , some selling's will be there because of they sell due to unavoidable reasons.


so it is cycle.

anyway i also should say that "just my view only..." Very Happy Very Happy

I don't really want to dislike your views Mr.X and  Xhunter.
The market is a reflection of SriLankan investors/retailers (or gamblers).
I think both of you have valid points to understand current market cycles.

My individual view is most of the counters, including some of the market movers and shakers that XHunter also mentioned, are still undervalued. My view is base on company business and future potential and without considering current political chaos.

I agree with the part of Mr.X explanation of the way these parties collecting and controlling these counters.

Personally, I believe the market is overall in an oversold state and this vicious cycle will be a break at some point. But I don't ever represent the group who was daydreaming that CSE will be skyrocketed to ASPI 20k levels. But the Market should be reasonably moved to 10k levels gradually when companies start picking up to their values.

Ps: I hold most of the shares mentioned in this thread. VONE, LOLC, BIL, DPs shares at reasonable prices, and I believe they will provide a good return in near future.
Yes,Yes.
market is oversold and undervalued.
but to move up there is should be a competition in between buyers.
my whole point is, when "wise" people has buying power there is no that much of competition.

but when "idiots"  have buying power it is different. we experienced it on January

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@xhunter wrote:
Yes,Yes.
market is oversold and undervalued.
but to move up there is should be a competition in between buyers.
my whole point is, when "wise" people has buying power there is no that much of competition.

but when "idiots"  have buying power it is different. we experienced it on January

That we all agree Very Happy

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@madukp wrote:
@xhunter wrote:
Yes,Yes.
market is oversold and undervalued.
but to move up there is should be a competition in between buyers.
my whole point is, when "wise" people has buying power there is no that much of competition.

but when "idiots"  have buying power it is different. we experienced it on January

That we all agree Very Happy
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