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101LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:31 pm

Chithi


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

LOFC Alert🐌💥💥

FY21 , PAT 4.5Bn, EPS 0.83
FY22F, PAT 9.5bn (Forecasted by CT), EPS can be forecasted between 1.7-2

Possible Valuations
1.7x10=17
1.7x15=25.5
1.7x20=34

LOFC is illiquid counter
Public holding 5% may be traded at higher PEs
1.7x30=51

Example
Dialog Finance illiquid counter
Trading at Higher PEs and 5x NAV

Once proposed IPO implemented and listed in Port City proposed Exchange with foreign currency denominated Exchange, Expectations are High

Not a B/S/H recommendation

102LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:01 am

Winner123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

@Hawk Eye
I also feel that LOLC might not want to increase the clc price cos if its move beyond 40 levels the market capitalization will be close to EXPO. so that they will maintain the price at these levels. Yours thoughts pls.

103LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:12 am

SAGA


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Moderator

What would happen if Mkt capitalization is closed to Expo?why they don't want to allow it.pls explain

104LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:19 am

Winner123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

@SAGA Expo share price is mainly driven on earnings. But CLC what is the reason? Its mainly cos of low public holding.

105LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:42 am

SAGA


Moderator
Moderator

So on the same note y NIFL went to 700?my dear winner123 ,there is a reason for such.one donky at a time they will take these 2 companies in Proposed LOLC Holdings (CLC and LOFC) to the sky.they will not deviate from their original road map.now already LOLC and NIFL in the territory of their price.next CLC.Remember companies Road maps will never change until they achieve their solid strategic targets.

106LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:49 am

Winner123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

I also like clc to go high cos i m holding both counters. But i feel they brought price of both lofc and clc down with a purpose. NIFL is also now 400 levels which brought down from prev highs.

107LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:59 am

SAGA


Moderator
Moderator

Its natural NIFL coming down to 400 levels after giving such returns to investors.nw its like an old horse  tired after such a gallop.need more strength to run again.but CLC AND LOFC so fresh.LOLC holding is like JKH old days.they were the talk of the town introducing themselves as the largest conglomerate in Lk.now it turns table to LOLC.I must thank kanishka for revealing that of proposed LOLC HOLDINGS.Imagine the possibilities of a conglomerate with consists of companies with a share value of 500/ = each

108LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:22 pm

Winner123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

@SAGA discussions like this would mutually benefit for all readers. Thanks for your inputs.

109LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:22 pm

Winner123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

@SAGA discussions like this would mutually benefit for all readers. Thanks for your inputs.

110LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:26 pm

SAGA


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Moderator

No worries winner123.thats my thought and to add a point do we have any other real hope in terms of development of this country other than port city?

111LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:56 pm

Winner123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Good question. But we will have to open the country for tourism asap.

112LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:09 pm

Captain


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

As per my calculation, LOFC is the share, which is highly undervalue in the market from LOLC group, So, this is the time now for us to buy this before entering by big HNWI.

113LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:13 pm

Captain


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

earlier CLC was low priced than LOFC that was technically ok with those period Market Sentiments, then it was one or two rupee more than the LOFC with January 2021 run....

Now it more than Rs 10/- higher than LOFC, with lower public holding......

that price gap is should see and there is safe buying gap at LOFC up to Rs 15/- Now.

114LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:50 pm

Hawk Eye

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Expert
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Winner123 wrote:@Hawk Eye
I also feel that LOLC might not want to increase the clc price cos if its move beyond 40 levels the market capitalization will be close to EXPO. so that they will maintain the price at these levels. Yours thoughts pls.
Winner123, your question made me to think for a while Smile and  dnt know whether Im making any sense with below answer. if others can chip in a bit then that will shed more light

LOLC disclosure note on LOLC Ceylon Holdings:https://cdn.cse.lk/cmt/announcement_portal_prod/CSE%20Revised%20Disclosure%20re%20attracting%20large%20investors_15864796610033.pdf

- "Global Strategy is to attract foreign investors to Large Finance Companies" so they bring LOFC,CLC,NIFL together make it a large entity, The giant going to be LOLC Ceylon Holdings

- These large scale foreign investors to be given minority stake. This minority stake itself has to be massive

-Post listing of LOLC Ceylon, LOFC,CLC,NIFL  shares transferred at prevailing market price 


From here only need to analyse  to whom its beneficial keeping the price high.

what is the listing price /IPO price of LOLC Ceylon going to be , and what is going to decide that. ? you will get the answer

115LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:55 pm

Winner123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Got it thanks.....

116LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:14 pm

SAGA


Moderator
Moderator

When you look at the majority of the contribution coming  to the Proposed LOLC holding ,its 44.8% from LOFC,98.9 from CLC and 55.5 from NIFL.Since NIFL already there at 450 /= Mark  can imagine the price would be for CLC.I might be a dead duck if I  give a target price nw  but it would make all of us super super rich.this is my personal opinion.

117LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:13 pm

Hawk Eye

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The rating for the Guaranteed Senior Redeemable Debentures is based on the strength of the unconditional and irrevocable guarantee from LOLC Holdings PLC (LOLC) (rated SL A with Stable outlook by ICRA Lanka) covering the principal and two interest instalments (annual) of the proposed issue. The guarantor undertakes the obligation to pay, on demand from the Trustee, LKR 1,000 Million, being the total principal sum, and two-yearly interest instalments of the proposed Guaranteed Senior Listed Redeemable Debentures. The rating also assumes that the guarantee will be duly invoked by the Trustee, as per the terms of the underlying trust deed and the guarantee agreement, in case there is a default in payment by LOLC Ceylon (Issuer).
https://www.icralanka.com/rationale/icra-lanka-assigns-the-provisional-slace-rating-with-stable-outlook-to-the-proposed-guaranteed-redeemable-debentures-programme-of-lolc-ceylon-holdings-limited/



Any guess what is LOLC Ceylon doing with this Rs.1Billion money LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 1f60f 

118LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:22 am

sanjulanka


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

xhunter wrote:
kanishkaecomm wrote:LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Screen36
This is the same group who manupulate this , 12/= within next 3 weeks.
දැන් මොකක් වෙයිද? Question

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119LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:34 pm

Winner123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

LOFC can we have hopes for previous highs?

120LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:28 am

Itzme


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

I hope LOFC will start to gain momentum from today. the past 2 days, people imagined EXPO's gain was just a temporary one. But now they will understand they were too late. When EXPO gains, it affects overall market. So LOFC will also follow. It will definitely hit the top soon even before the soon-expected announcement.

121LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:31 am

Captain


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Itzme wrote:I hope LOFC will start to gain momentum from today. the past 2 days, people imagined EXPO's gain was just a temporary one. But now they will understand they were too late. When EXPO gains, it affects overall market. So LOFC will also follow. It will definitely hit the top soon even before the soon-expected announcement.
As I said earlier ﹰﹰLOFC is most attractive share in the lolc cluster . Given that all the other companies are on top bit when compare with lofc net assets and ecpected ﹰﹰEPS ﹰfor 2122 ﹰFﹰY it is highly posible HNWI to run and keep price arround Rs15

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122LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:53 pm

Hawk Eye

Hawk Eye
Expert
Expert

I made a mistake by deviating from my way of stock analysis, getting interested in Nimal P tweet he following Anushka analysis

Not too late to reverse my decision

No more LOFC or CLC

123LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:40 pm

stockchaser


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Hawk Eye wrote:I made a mistake by deviating from my way of stock analysis, getting interested in Nimal P tweet he following Anushka analysis

Not too late to reverse my decision

No more LOFC or CLC
Please share your reason
Why?

124LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:39 pm

Hope123


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Hawk Eye wrote:I made a mistake by deviating from my way of stock analysis, getting interested in Nimal P tweet he following Anushka analysis

Not too late to reverse my decision

No more LOFC or CLC

Yes HE, i too made a wrong decision on this and it seems still to much selling continues.

125LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:50 pm

xhunter

xhunter
Moderator
Moderator

Hawk Eye wrote:I made a mistake by deviating from my way of stock analysis, getting interested in Nimal P tweet he following Anushka analysis

Not too late to reverse my decision

No more LOFC or CLC
It is sad to see people caught to this kind of utter bullshit promotions.
NP said (sharing a chart), it is “supper supper”.
 But what that chart describes?
 
LOLC Ceylon will be formed under LOLC holdings and it will  get more 10% capital through foreign investment, so to get 100 bn , CLC share price will be inflated.
Who on earth valuate a company based on inflated market price? (specially when company has very low free floating shares).
Then hilarious part is, chart says that 100 bn will be invested in a new private company which is fully owned by CLC.
If LOLC Ceylon is a public company, how can LOLC Ceylon moved money to its child company (CLC) which is also a public company?
 
So, If NP said these kind of charts are “supper”, he knows what kind of stupid followers he has.
This whole chart is a pure bullshit; I can write few pages to describe the plot holes in this chart.

126LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:06 pm

xhunter

xhunter
Moderator
Moderator

Hope123 wrote:
Hawk Eye wrote:I made a mistake by deviating from my way of stock analysis, getting interested in Nimal P tweet he following Anushka analysis

Not too late to reverse my decision

No more LOFC or CLC

Yes HE, i too made a wrong decision on this and it seems still to much selling continues.

Aug 25th
price was 31/=
then PBV is 9+
PER is 73.8
PER based on last quater (annualized) = 86


my question is; who wll buy this???

127LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:25 pm

xhunter

xhunter
Moderator
Moderator

sanjulanka wrote:
xhunter wrote:
kanishkaecomm wrote:LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Screen36
This is the same group who manupulate this , 12/= within next 3 weeks.
දැන් මොකක් වෙයිද? Question
This question should go to @kanishkaecomm

128LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:52 pm

Niwa


Moderator
Moderator

Don’t worry be happy. It’s building up lost energy in the first run. Gave many opportunities in the first run, many earned good money. Rs.38.90 all time high . Who get on board now or average, will be the winners soon. Now RSI around 50, gave many opportunities for collectors in last few weeks.

129LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:53 pm

Niwa


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LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 18059710

130LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? - Page 5 Empty Re: LOFC AND CLC Target Price?? Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:41 pm

Winner123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Will see how things go next week. If BIL interest is fading away we can expect some actions with lofc and clc.

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