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1Where our Money gone? Empty Where our Money gone? Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:37 am

schacha


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
When the market shows a single green day our guys forget every thing.
Today foreign buy 238.75Mn
ASPI : 6,777.03 UP by 61.36 points (+0.91%)
MPI : 6,311.13 up by 120.85 points (+1.95 %)
Daily Turnover : Rs. 1,954.86 million
Foreign Purchases : Rs. 238.75 million
Foreign Sales : Rs. 85.56 million
Net Foreign Inflow/ (Outflow) : Rs. 153.19 million
Best Performing Sector : Oil Palms (+3.43%)
Worst Performing Sector : Stores & Supplies (-1.60%)

WoW change
ASPI 6,777.03 (135.0) (1.95)
MPI 6,311.13 (75.80) (1.19)
Net foreign inflow/(out flow)-Week-(Rs.Mn)->172.76
Net foreign inflow/(out flow)-YTD-(Rs.Mn)->(1740.64)

Is this green a foreign manipulation?
Is this green is to make local guys to buy some foreign stocks at high price and take that money also to their countries.
So what about our regulators? How they protect our CSE.?



Last edited by mark on Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:41 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : changed simile to number 8,)

2Where our Money gone? Empty Re: Where our Money gone? Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:54 am

ShareShares


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
When the foreigners buy they provide CSE with much needed funds, as there was a credit crisis and retailers could not maintain ASI and MPI this is a form of encouragement. It is a welcome relief for CSE, true that foreigners look for bargains, otherwise they go and invest in other markets, they buy only from growing markets as there is an international competition, foreigners enter most attractive stocks and share markets in the world as they have a range of choices. It is a free international market that is their choice.

3Where our Money gone? Empty Re: Where our Money gone? Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:23 am

Soundchips


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
very unfair ...they have to come and rescue other stocks also..there are so many other stocks in the CSE...

4Where our Money gone? Empty Re: Where our Money gone? Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:56 pm

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Dear sacha,
Any business expects profits otherwise most probably we can called it as a charity not as a business.

If a foreigner or a foreign fund invests $10million at CSE, they would expect at least $10 million +$1 as return in certain time scale. As long as they achieve their targets, they should have the rights to withdraw total investment out of Sri Lanka.
I cannt see why we need to stop these things? If you want the regulators to do these things then no investor will come and invest in Sri Lanka...!!!!
More than a million Sri Lankans live and work abroad. Also many Sri Lankan companies have invested in aboard. Imagine what will happen if all these countries also think the way you think?
Please tell me what regulators should do on this matter?
We can live without foreign investments at CSE but it shows how healthy the market is.
Nett out flow in this year should have been more than 5-6 billions unless that Carson group internal transfer was not there.

We should thank SEC for promoting CSE in other countries.

5Where our Money gone? Empty Re: Where our Money gone? Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:05 pm

econ

econ
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why do you say it is a manupulation by foreigners?
any investor who invest in stock market buy at lower price and sell it higher prices. so what is wrong with it?

6Where our Money gone? Empty Re: Where our Money gone? Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:08 pm

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@econ wrote:why do you say it is a manupulation by foreigners?
any investor who invest in stock market buy at lower price and sell it higher prices. so what is wrong with it?

Exactly.

I dont think any investor should come to CSE for charity service

7Where our Money gone? Empty Re: Where our Money gone? Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:08 pm

schacha


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
It is very easy to pull money out from our country. Do you guys think it is same or much easier to bring money from other countries by investment or by working in other countries?
Feel sorry to see "I dont think any investor come to CSE for charity service
"
Did anybody ask u a penny from ur investment?
No body expect any charity service from CSE.
But don't forget most of retailers are new comers. They are in experienced and so panic than U think. And their contribution kept the market alive for more than half a year.
Just think about how much foreign investment came to CSE in last yr and this year and how much they took away? Definitely that is their right.
Is that the expectation of CSE? Allow foreigners to pull out more than they put.?
I have no worry about CSE cos it's not even my secondary investment.
I know some ppl depend on CSE for long time.
I came to CSE just 1 yr and 3 months.
I didn't suffer much loss during this down fall also.(My major loss from RCL, I got it @156)
So I don't expect a charity service from CSE at all. Very Happy
Good buy... Sad

8Where our Money gone? Empty Re: Where our Money gone? Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:33 pm

ShareShares


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
All investments come to CSE expecting some returns, they may be thinking that European markets are less attractive at the moment. Once a positive momentum is started and maintained, other investments also come to CSE. Generally momentum starts in some sectors and spread in to all other sectors. If all investors need an overall growth in the market investors need to have a firm impression that ASI and MPI are moving upwards. Then only all other shares start moving upwards. Then there are more positive counters at the end of the day. Recent problem faced by CSE was some thing to do with lack of funds, if foreigners take initiative local investors would also start investing. Stock market which gives some sort returns generally attracts more funds. If all the other shares become attractive foreigners would invest on them as well, if the CSE is attractive more and more funds would definitely come to all counters. at the moment CSE need to encourage whatever the form of investors focus their attention on CSE. Influx of funds to CSE strengthens all shares across the board in CSE.

9Where our Money gone? Empty Re: Where our Money gone? Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:43 pm

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@schacha wrote:It is very easy to pull money out from our country. Do you guys think it is same or much easier to bring money from other countries by investment or by working in other countries?
As a person live outside Sri Lanka I can say Yes it is easy bring money from other countries to SL. I never had a problem. I can proudly say that I retuned more than I brought to where I live now.
Regarding investments. No I don’t think so. There are a number of issues for that. However I don’t want talk in an open forum.
@schacha wrote: Feel sorry to see "I dont think any investor come to CSE for charity service
I feel sorry to see your thread as well.
If a foreign investor invest $10 million @ CSE how much do you think he should pull out? If you think it should be less than $10 million then I can called as a charity service.
@schacha wrote:
Did anybody ask u a penny from ur investment?
No body expect any charity service from CSE.
Exactly. This applies to foreign funds as well.
@schacha wrote:
But don't forget most of retailers are new comers. They are in experienced and so panic than U think. And their contribution kept the market alive for more than half a year.
I would definitely thank to them for that. Thats why I thought its time us give them something good. I know it is not look very pleasant but oneday you will realise that is true.
When I had young blood I used to act exactly the same way as you do today.
@schacha wrote:
Just think about how much foreign investment came to CSE in last yr and this year and how much they took away? Definitely that is their right.

Last year nett out flow was roughly around Rs 26 billions. This year actual figure is also over Rs 5 billion. If they paid Rs 10.00 per share in 2006 and sold it in 2011 for Rs 120.00 why cannt they take that money back?
@schacha wrote:
Is that the expectation of CSE? Allow foreigners to pull out more than they put.?
Any wise foreign could end up in nett out flow.
@schacha wrote:
I came to CSE just 1 yr and 3 months.
I didn't suffer much loss during this down fall also.(My major loss from RCL, I got it @156)

I wish you all the very best.

Note: I do not want to mention Lionheart investment group in this post.


10Where our Money gone? Empty Re: Where our Money gone? Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:52 pm

ShareShares


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
I also got RCL when the overall market improves all these shares perform well. First of all, an initiative and a momentum need to be established then it is easy to focus on local investments as well, ultimately local investors play a major role in the CSE, ultimately our own investors benefitted in CSE. Let the foreigners also take the initiative, locals investors also benefit at the end.

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