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1I am missing some friends Empty I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:10 am

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Well when the market down most of the different people say different reasons, some say regulators, another group say its brokers, another set say its some Individual with enough money bring down the market.

Officially no changes in the regulations from those days to date, now market is moving up and most of them are happy including myself, because everybody want to make profits here.

If the market going up at a steady speed with the release of financial results and the external events then there is no issue at all, but IF its started to come down. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE THIS TIME?

i will accept all kind of arguments specially against me

Thanks

2I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:17 am

lokuayya


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
The SEC is totally responsible for the mess.Now the market is moving only because of the positive sentiment generated by the SEC/Broker meeting.
I hope SEC can realize the damage they have done and make necessary changes, Otherwise market would resume sliding from next week.

3I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:34 am

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@lokuayya wrote:The SEC is totally responsible for the mess.Now the market is moving only because of the positive sentiment generated by the SEC/Broker meeting.
I hope SEC can realize the damage they have done and make necessary changes, Otherwise market would resume sliding from next week.


The positive sentiment is still a rumor only, and if any thing didn't materialized then buyers will blame the brokers, and brokers in turn will say regulators hinted us about the positive news and they didn't implement it.

Whether u make the profit or loss still all the levies payable

4I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:50 am

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@lokuayya wrote:The SEC is totally responsible for the mess.Now the market is moving only because of the positive sentiment generated by the SEC/Broker meeting.
I hope SEC can realize the damage they have done and make necessary changes, Otherwise market would resume sliding from next week.



Bla Bla Bla.... Damn....., I do not want SEC to change any rules at the moment & better, if amending the T+5 to T+3 as it was for decades...!

The only & The Greatest error SEC did since last JUNE 2010 was amending the Debt clearing of balance 50% into 25% each into 2 splits & rescheduling it for SEP & DEC 2011.

Mrs. Sugathadasa pls count me as one of investors standing for your strict rules since its implementation to date...! Go ahead Madam go ahead you are correct...Stock market do not means a place to Gamble & its not a spot in LAS VEGAS.... I expect few more good rules to be implemented sooner than later...

such as a valve theory ( this could be introduced as one way movement or minimum cap, by evaluating a fair market value of a particular stock through its last financial reports and put up a cap price to ban the share sold below that price which its really worth ) then we can suggest a max cap also for rallies based on same theory of last reported eps x pe = fair value + 30% or 40% some thing for future growth etc etc and put a Max cap for stocks for a period of 3 months still the next Q reports to be published...!

anyway Madam, keep the imposed rules with untouched....for the sake of SL Economy...! Very Happy

5I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:20 pm

stockdad


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Don't mistake settlement is T+3 not T+5
T+5 is the debt clearance day.

market is a composition of all segments: long term investors, daty traders, speculators, gamblers
u can not say that one segment is good and the other bad.
That is y the SEC is there. to regulate the market so that no one group can have an undue advantage over the other and manipulate the market .


rules to curtail excessive credit is not bad.
what is wrong with is the way it was implemented.

good things must be done in the right manner and at appropriate time.
There are lot of things that SEc shd do to hv a transparent orderly market, which they r not doing.
let them take to task the specific errant brokers and manipulators and insider traders.
r they doing it?

instead they just penalise the entire market.
it is the easy way out for them.
what hv they done abt the big guys who manipulate the market, break or bend rules
and openly and unashamedly come up with absurd reasons to justify themselves at public forums.

6I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:37 pm

duke


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
You can see what broker rumors can do in the last couple of days. Imagine you relax the rules of normal stock markets. Sri Lankans and Bangladesh people are the same..

7I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:55 pm

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@duke wrote:You can see what broker rumors can do in the last couple of days. Imagine you relax the rules of normal stock markets. Sri Lankans and Bangladesh people are the same..

Stockdad may have landed from Mongolia if not from Bangladesh affraid ...!

8I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:01 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Let's re-examine the facts.

1) the SEC hasn't announced any credit rules changes yet.
2) The old credit rules are still in place.
3) Brokers were saying market was declining because of credit restrictions.
4) The market went up by more than 5% over the past three days.
5) because old rules are still in place, buyers are paying cash.

Statements 3 and 5 are mutually exclusive and cannot be true at the same time.

9I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:05 pm

stockdad


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Mr RIO,
what u say is most suited to yr self.
seem to take great pains to praise certain individuals at SEC
no problem. if u get some favors from them we hv no problem.
happy licking.

10I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:09 pm

ha_na


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@tubal wrote:Let's re-examine the facts.

1) the SEC hasn't announced any credit rules changes yet.
2) The old credit rules are still in place.
3) Brokers were saying market was declining because of credit restrictions.
4) The market went up by more than 5% over the past three days.
5) because old rules are still in place, buyers are paying cash.

Statements 3 and 5 are mutually exclusive and cannot be true at the same time.

I agree with you. most of the people will burn their finger in coming days.

11I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:12 pm

manula


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Only new news was from previous is meeting story !! Is this news is the reason for current trend.. I don't think or is it annual reports.. Shocked

12I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:15 pm

stockdad


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@tubal wrote:Let's re-examine the facts.

1) the SEC hasn't announced any credit rules changes yet.
2) The old credit rules are still in place.
3) Brokers were saying market was declining because of credit restrictions.
4) The market went up by more than 5% over the past three days.
5) because old rules are still in place, buyers are paying cash.

Statements 3 and 5 are mutually exclusive and cannot be true at the same time.

Buyers are not paying cash.
They have sold out during the past few days at a loss and now are buying back, often at a higher price,
trying to recoup their losses as they anticipate the mkt to go up further if the credit rules are relaxed.
This cycle is also mostly on credit . (upto T+5 days)
It will be the old story once again.

13I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:19 pm

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@stockdad wrote:Mr RIO,
what u say is most suited to yr self.
seem to take great pains to praise certain individuals at SEC
no problem. if u get some favors from them we hv no problem.
happy licking.


The greatest favour we got from SEC is imposing strict rules to protect the Stock market from ......(unsuitable word removed) like you , who thinks stocks should always move up and no point on financial fundamentals...

(unsuitable word removed) like you who just followed the rallies and paid any amount for any stock is the main contributors of the total failure of CSE...chased GREG, then BFL, GRAN, TAFL, REEF last year & recently PAP, CLND, PMB...etc etc...

There is nothing wrong with HNWIs ,...its you(unsuitable word removed) fault who followe....(unsuitable word removed) don't try to show off as a pundit...but get to know always you talk, you shows your poor educational levels on financial markets...

Go back to school (at least go to a Night School) & do some studies on financial markets before spitting here...! pig



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14I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:41 pm

lokuayya


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics


THE SEC RULINGS CONVERTED THE CSE IN TO CASINO.JUST SEE THE TRADING PATTERN SINCE THE NEW SEC TOOK OVER.ALL ARE "ANNA PENNA" TRADES".LONG TERM INVESTORS ARE LEAVING IN DISGUST .SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO MPI FROM THE DATE THEY TOOK OVER THE ADMINISTRATION.
I ALSO LEFT MY LONG TERM STOCKS AND NOW READY TO DO GAMBLING BECAUSE WITH SEC RULING NEW CANNOT DO ANY OTHER THING IN THE MARKET.

CSE HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO CASINO.'T +5 GAMBLING ONLY" .JUST ANALYZE THE TRADING PATTERNS SINCE THE ADMINISTRATION CHANGED.

(BETTER TO MIND YOUR LANGUAGE.PLEASE DONT USE ABUSIVE WORDS.)

15I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:01 pm

stockdad


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@RIO wrote:
@stockdad wrote:Mr RIO,
what u say is most suited to yr self.
seem to take great pains to praise certain individuals at SEC
no problem. if u get some favors from them we hv no problem.
happy licking.


The greatest favour we got from SEC is imposing strict rules to protect the Stock market from idiots like you , who thinks stocks should always move up and no point on financial fundamentals...

Bastards like you who just followed the rallies and paid any amount for any stock is the main contributors of the total failure of CSE...chased GREG, then BFL, GRAN, TAFL, REEF last year & recently PAP, CLND, PMB...etc etc...



There is nothing wrong with HNWIs ,...its you idiot fault who followe....Fu... don't try to show off as a pundit...but get to know always you talk, you shows your poor educational levels on financial markets...

Go back to school (at least go to a Night School) & do some studies on financial markets before spitting here...! pig


Dear Sir,
Really Confused and agitated aren't u?
WHY or WHY?

Plese read what I have written carefully, although it is obvious that there is a problem in understanding standard general English.
Perhaps not gone to even that school in Pinnawela which the so called HNWI attended..

Unfortunately I cannot express myself in the gutter language you seem to understand.
Try to get some knowledgable person to provide u with a translation.

I tolerate two legged creatures with 4 legged upbringing

16I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:22 pm

Think9

Think9
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
wel.. RIO ! . ur da dumbest here.. talking abt SEC n their regulations when the mkt s pickin up. LOL..

ur post shows hw badly u ve bn in wounded by investin in CSE and that u couldnt earn some good profits during the last few days ( including 2day).

lol!

dude take some chill pills or buy some GRAN, BFL, TAFL on monday. hikz



17I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:01 pm

laksharemk


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
This sudden uptrend is no doubt too fast. If the people who uplifted the investor expectations don't deliver those in next few days, it will be a disaster.
Two things the regulators can do in this situation as per my understanding,
1. If this is only a rumor which is not going to happen, officially notify without just waiting. This will bring down the market but will avoid the possible bigger damage of denying after waiting few more days.
2. Think about the present situation and deliver the expectations in most appropriate way by considering investor ground situation and future of CSE.

18I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:14 pm

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Buying on Credit based on rumors will be a big disaster if you are not in a position to pump the additional money, so think before act and don't think after executing something

19I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:31 pm

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Think9 wrote:wel.. RIO ! . ur da dumbest here.. talking abt SEC n their regulations when the mkt s pickin up. LOL..

ur post shows hw badly u ve bn in wounded by investin in CSE and that u couldnt earn some good profits during the last few days ( including 2day).

lol!

dude take some chill pills or buy some GRAN, BFL, TAFL on monday. hikz


No need for any pills of that kind...and pls note that I'm not a day trader or a short term trader...even at the CSE was on its worst (just few days back) I was sitting on a GREEN Portfolio with a good unrealized profits..and therefore no need to worry on buying & selling on last two days including today...!

I was pointing at traders who think last few days upward trend was a beginning a new era & just going on a buying spree...Finally will become victims of losing hard earn wealth....! they are the same PPL who followed TAFL, GRAN, BFL, CSF, PAP, CLND, PMB...& Illiquid rallies & finally crying for their money & pointing finger at SEC for the foolish things done by themselves....!

Cheers for rallies hunters , HNWIs need you at cse to dump their rubbish at higher prices...!

20I am missing some friends Empty Re: I am missing some friends Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:46 pm

econ

econ
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sudden massive increase of ASI shows the importance of the credit in the market. I think brokers wanted to show it.
CSE is highly sensitive to credit related news but not for the company fundementals or other economic conditions in the country.

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