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hunter


Moderator
Moderator
Ok. Here is my last post in this thread unless there are any questions.

Step -3: When to buy/sell; at which price levels.

This is the most interesting part but not necessarily the most important. In fact, even if less attractive, I would place step-1 and 2 above step -3.

There are many ways, methods or strategies to select the best buy/sell price and time. Sometime ago, I wanted to find what was the best method of all.
And finally...
it proved to me that I was raising the wrong question.
then what was the right question...?

What is the best way of using these methods to gain profit?

The answer was simple:
Have faith in your share and your method.
Sound crazy? I will give two examples.

e.g. -1: Method -1: Invest 40% at current price level. If the price falls 10%, invest 20%. If falls another 10%, invest another 20% so on. If the price goes up 10% sell 20% etc. etc.

You can check this with historical data and see the profits for yourself.

e.g.-2: Method -2: Invest 40% now. If the price is on the rise, invest 20% more. wait for price to settle down, if rises more, invest 20% etc etc.
If price is falling, sell 20%. Wait for price to settle down. If it falls, sell 20% etc.

As you can see the two method are of contrary to each other, but both can generate profits.

I my case, I use some technical analysis to decide the entry exit points.

Anyway, the rule is 'stick to your method' and 'buy/sell at different price levels'.

I hope these will make you think about how you trade/invest.

Thanks for being with me so far.

Roboticfx


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
yeap! good for long term investors trading with one company. Very Happy

hunter


Moderator
Moderator
@Roboticfx wrote:yeap! good for long term investors trading with one company. Very Happy

Not to prove anything, but I am for short term trading with non attached multiple shares.

Roboticfx


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Good post. Thanks Exclamation Very Happy

Auther


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@hunter wrote:Ok. Here is my last post in this thread unless there are any questions.
Step -3: When to buy/sell; at which price levels.

e.g. -1: Method -1: Invest 40% at current price level. If the price falls 10%, invest 20%. If falls another 10%, invest another 20% so on. If the price goes up 10% sell 20% etc. etc.

You can check this with historical data and see the profits for yourself.

e.g.-2: Method -2: Invest 40% now. If the price is on the rise, invest 20% more. wait for price to settle down, if rises more, invest 20% etc etc.
If price is falling, sell 20%. Wait for price to settle down. If it falls, sell 20% etc.

I my case, I use some technical analysis to decide the entry exit points.
Anyway, the rule is 'stick to your method' and 'buy/sell at different price levels'.
I hope these will make you think about how you trade/invest.
Thanks for being with me so far.

It's very nice n valuable post hunter...
Thanks n keep it up for us...!
And in your case what are the tools you use for the technical analysis part..?

hunter

hunter
Moderator
Moderator
Thanks for your comments Auther.

I have tried many; to name few; RSI, Accu. Dist (A/D), many oscillators, many indexes, Bol bands etc etc.
Finally, decided simplicity is the best. After all, all the tools are based on the price charts and the volume.

Now I loosely use MA and MACD. At the end of the day, none of the tools are any better than the source - price and volume.

Auther

Auther
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@hunter wrote:
Finally, decided simplicity is the best. After all, all the tools are based on the price charts and the volume.

Now I loosely use MA and MACD. At the end of the day, none of the tools are any better than the source - price and volume.

Well said hunter,
No way of using those tools with our Heroes...!
Entering at the correct price make the minimum damage. How ever it's better to work hard like you sacrificing some time..! Smile

JonJon


Stock Trader
@hunter wrote:Thanks for your comments Auther.

I have tried many; to name few; RSI, Accu. Dist (A/D), many oscillators, many indexes, Bol bands etc etc.
Finally, decided simplicity is the best. After all, all the tools are based on the price charts and the volume.

Now I loosely use MA and MACD. At the end of the day, none of the tools are any better than the source - price and volume.

Depends on personal preference. But I also have noticed that most of the time only MACD works well with CSE. If you check few years of history data in CSE most of the time MACD proved to be a better indicator for non speculative shares.

Because of that its always better to go for simple analysis tools like http://market-geek.com

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
According to my experience MACD has less whipshaws when use it with the moving average(50 days)

Roboticfx

Roboticfx
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@hunter wrote:Ok. Here is my last post in this thread unless there are any questions.

Step -3: When to buy/sell; at which price levels.

This is the most interesting part but not necessarily the most important. In fact, even if less attractive, I would place step-1 and 2 above step -3.

There are many ways, methods or strategies to select the best buy/sell price and time. Sometime ago, I wanted to find what was the best method of all.
And finally...
it proved to me that I was raising the wrong question.
then what was the right question...?

What is the best way of using these methods to gain profit?

The answer was simple:
Have faith in your share and your method.
Sound crazy? I will give two examples.

e.g. -1: Method -1: Invest 40% at current price level. If the price falls 10%, invest 20%. If falls another 10%, invest another 20% so on. If the price goes up 10% sell 20% etc. etc.

You can check this with historical data and see the profits for yourself.

e.g.-2: Method -2: Invest 40% now. If the price is on the rise, invest 20% more. wait for price to settle down, if rises more, invest 20% etc etc.
If price is falling, sell 20%. Wait for price to settle down. If it falls, sell 20% etc.

As you can see the two method are of contrary to each other, but both can generate profits.

I my case, I use some technical analysis to decide the entry exit points.

Anyway, the rule is 'stick to your method' and 'buy/sell at different price levels'.

I hope these will make you think about how you trade/invest.

Thanks for being with me so far.

Friend,
I saw a problem. Exclamation

Method2
1.What will happen to the highest price share that has been purchased? Need to get a loss or stuck on it? If I am wrong, please correct me.

2.If the price went down by many price levels at once then what do we do?

I think this method should be developed some more. Smile

hunter

hunter
Moderator
Moderator
Roboticfx,

In Method-2 I have mentioned (not suggested), If the price is falling, we need to sell the shares. If picked up the peak, we need to sell it even at a loss. But enter later on the rise.

2. Many price level drop is not an issue. Stick to the basic rule; Buy on the rise, sell on the fall. If you have sold all, wait for a rise to buy afresh.

It is not my preferred method but I witnessed it working.

Roboticfx

Roboticfx
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@hunter wrote:Roboticfx,

In Method-2 I have mentioned (not suggested), If the price is falling, we need to sell the shares. If picked up the peak, we need to sell it even at a loss. But enter later on the rise.

2. Many price level drop is not an issue. Stick to the basic rule; Buy on the rise, sell on the fall. If you have sold all, wait for a rise to buy afresh.

It is not my preferred method but I witnessed it working.

Thanks. I think this method is most suitable for normal illiquid shares. Am I correct? Yes or No? Very Happy I never like to get losses. That why I am asking about this method continuously before use.

eeyohan


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
thx hunter my simple advise is when the market drop buy when the market up sell .... check the lowest or near to lowest buy ... 100 sure u want lost ,

aloma.fernando


Stock Trader
No meaning... Very Happy

kelumhewage


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
hunter........the gardian angel.....nice post..... Embarassed

Genting


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
well said hunter...

wonder who is giving negative reps

hunter

hunter
Moderator
Moderator
@Roboticfx wrote:
@hunter wrote:Roboticfx,

In Method-2 I have mentioned (not suggested), If the price is falling, we need to sell the shares. If picked up the peak, we need to sell it even at a loss. But enter later on the rise.

2. Many price level drop is not an issue. Stick to the basic rule; Buy on the rise, sell on the fall. If you have sold all, wait for a rise to buy afresh.

It is not my preferred method but I witnessed it working.

Thanks. I think this method is most suitable for normal illiquid shares. Am I correct? Yes or No? Very Happy I never like to get losses. That why I am asking about this method continuously before use.

In my view, method-1 looks good for fundamentally strong shares. (When price dropped buy more).
Method-2 looks good for speculative rally shares. When the price is going up, buy more. When the price is heading south, exit quickly and save your money.

Anyway, in my case, I adopt a mix of both method 1 and 2 along with some technical analysis. That improves my winning chances. This is in addition to my looking into fundamentals as well.

There is a theory to explain mathematically and scientifically how it work in stock markets. If you are interested, I can explain it later.

sajcolombo


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Hi Hunter,

Please post more information on the same topic...it's very interesting and valuable for us.

Thanks..............

Roboticfx

Roboticfx
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
+rep from me Very Happy . Friends, don't put -reps. This showed us a good dimension. Smile

hunter

hunter
Moderator
Moderator
Thanks for your comments friends.

I was a bit hesitant to continue furthermore fearing my ideas might be too technical and become boring to most of the readers. If you are keen on understanding CSE from a mathematical and scientific point of view, I am more than happy to continue.

sas

sas
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
hunter,
+ rep buddy,
I have experienced this pattern when bought something at very low & in an uptrend movement.

snowball5


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
Hunter,
Thanks . It is really useful.

sajcolombo


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Thanks Hunter.....

No problem...kindly continue....i'm very happy if you could start to explain from A..........Z...

Cos it will help everybody i think....Thank you very much..

hunter

hunter
Moderator
Moderator
Ok. Since some of you are interested, I will start a new thread to continue the discussion.

I will copy the URL of the new topic here once started.
It will be something like.."Untold secrets.............how to increase winning chances"

Give me some time to collect my thoughts.

damayanthi

damayanthi
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@hunter wrote:Ok. Since some of you are interested, I will start a new thread to continue the discussion.

I will copy the URL of the new topic here once started.
It will be something like.."Untold secrets.............how to increase winning chances"

Give me some time to collect my thoughts.


HUNTER, PL PL CONTINUE TO TEACH...U HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH IT HELPS US-SMALL INVESTORS....WAS LOOKING OUT FOR SOMEONE JUST LIKE U. ITS ALMOST AN ANSWER TO PRAYER... Smile

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