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1UAL - Going down now? Empty UAL - Going down now? Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:25 pm

nosf766


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Looks like it has been pushed up massively!!! May crash in the next few days as has moved on very thin volumes!

2UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:27 pm

nosf766


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

See how insurers are in for major changes in 2021....especially life insurerrs....

3UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:52 am

nosf766


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Sell Sell Sell! Dont wait for it to crash! You can already see people trying to push up on small volumes!

4UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:00 pm

jayathu


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

why sell fundamentally sound share? look at the value behind it and decide.

EPS FY 2017/18 57.13 PE Ratio at CMP 5.89

This yr 6months results shows 245% growth in their bottom line.

Dividend last yr is 18 bucks. next yr most probably will be around 22-28 range.

can easily reach 400 level if they continue to show similar bottom line growth for the next two qtrs.

5UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:56 pm

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

jayathu wrote:why sell fundamentally sound share? look at the value behind it and decide.

EPS FY 2017/18 57.13   PE Ratio at CMP 5.89

This yr 6months results shows 245% growth in their bottom line.

Dividend last yr is 18 bucks. next yr most probably will be around 22-28 range.

can easily reach 400 level if they continue to show similar bottom line growth for the next two qtrs.
Do your own analysis  Wink UAL - Going down now? Ual-q210

6UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:24 am

nosf766


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Gain last year is one off - to avoid the 28% tax that life insurers have to pay. Also, from 2021 onwards, the basis on which life insurers calculate premiums etc will change, according to IFRS21! Hence, cannot continue this run...also see how stock has been pushed up - very small volumes!!! Be careful

7UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:56 am

jayathu


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

even without last yr one off gain they posted YoY over 150% bottom line growth. This yr first two qtrs shows they're well ahead of last yr profit level.

"Also, from 2021 onwards, the basis on which life insurers calculate premiums etc will change, according to IFRS21" according to KPMG and PWC this only has minor impact like 5%. which anyone in the insurance industry is concern of.

You're right price is pushed up from small quantities but at these levels anyone can argue it has much higher upside. what i see is it might cool off this surge but in the medium run it'll reach 400 and in long run it's anyone guess.

8UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:20 pm

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

jayathu wrote:even without last yr one off gain they posted YoY over 150% bottom line growth. This yr first two qtrs shows they're well ahead of last yr profit level.

"Also, from 2021 onwards, the basis on which life insurers calculate premiums etc will change, according to IFRS21" according to KPMG and PWC this only has minor impact like 5%. which anyone in the insurance industry is concern of.

You're right price is pushed up from small quantities but at these levels anyone can argue it has much higher upside. what i see is it might cool off this surge but in the medium run it'll reach 400 and in long run it's anyone guess.  
Small volumes ....Are you sure???????? Wink

9UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:14 am

jayathu


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

hopefully same kind of volume will be traded today with price appreciations

10UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:38 am

fernandopatfer123


Stock Trader

Looks like nosf766 is having the last laugh on UAL!!! I agree with him - this stock has been heavily pushed up and all the people who have bought are selling!!! Valuation wise it is very expensive and was 150 levels 6 months ago so profit taking comin in...my view is will correct back to 225 levels

11UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:01 pm

fernandopatfer123


Stock Trader

mkt will probably end down 25 - 50 points today - look at selling!!! USD / LKR down to 163 - foreigners selling! going down down down!

12UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:51 pm

niru


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

But today nearly 100,000 UAL shares bought by foreigners.

By looking at today trades -

98,328 shares traded @335/- per share at 10:30am.

13UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:08 am

fernandopatfer123


Stock Trader

This stock has moved up mainly on speculation - not sustainable! All life insureres transfered one off gains - that is not recurrent and hence will correct back down to 225 levels - my view only...look at number of shares on board and quantiy really traded...

14UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:09 pm

fernandopatfer123


Stock Trader

Very Happy:D:D

15UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:01 pm

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

fernandopatfer123 wrote:Very Happy:D:D
Not only UAL 133 shares went down Wink

16UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:34 pm

nosf766


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Predicted this 10 days ago ....will go back to old levels in my opinion - 230 levels!

17UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:13 pm

niru


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

But yesterday also UAL Foreign Buy 195,838 shares (Value 63 Mn)

18UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:47 pm

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

niru wrote:But yesterday also UAL Foreign Buy 195,838 shares (Value 63 Mn)
niru, you got YTD foreign holding for UAL?
If you have YTD foreign holding details for other shares ,please share.Thank you

19UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:29 am

nosf766


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Very Happy:D:D

20UAL - Going down now? Empty Re: UAL - Going down now? Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:42 pm

nosf766


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Thought this would happen - 1 month ago!!!! Personally, think even these prices very high in current market scenario and my targeet price 225

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