CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES

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gamaya · 2 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:26 am

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This article would be helpful for some new investors to understand How terribly things can go wrong when dealing with brokers.

http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2013/09/01/investor-sues-broker-for-rs-35-million/

gamaya · 3 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:45 pm

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@sharemarket wrote:

@gamaya wrote:

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@gamaya wrote:Capital lost is the no 1 wipeout agents.
They have now sued many of its own clients who have minus accounts now. Many clients have paid up for fear of going to courts. They often dont even have a margin agreement. Capital lost does nt give the clients agreement copy even.

There main tacticts is keeping high margin to collect the interest money till margin exceed 90%;and only then they force sell. Thus they take maximum utility from their valued clients.

Plus they have lots of valued clients with minus accounts. And the minus is rising each month with interest. Lots of their clients are share owners of obituary investment.

I have been emailed and told by Thushan that you and Smallville got a personal problem with him and two of you are trying to discredit his character. Please feel free to express your concerns here.

Sure. This is my personnel experience with them.

I had a account with them and the margin provider was Divasa equity. In late 2012 my broker boy had took the margin from Divasa without my instructions; Divasa used to forcesell when the account went below 50%. I aked my broker why did you removed my margin provider. He said it is to get me a better margin provider (PM Finance) which had 1% less interest. Then I signed an agreement with PMC and broker boy had sent to head office. I was quite confident all was well.

Then after more than a month he tells me that PMC does not have the capacity to supply margin and I can sign an agreement with capital loss(credit) if I like. All this while my acct is charged high interest and the margin provider was supposed to be capital loss. Now I have no option now but to sign an agreement with their margin firm. Then with the interest and market drop I am in high margin and stuck. Finally they forced sold after around 2 yrs of interest collection.

We usually trust our agents to treat us fairly. Here also I should have complained when my broker removed my margin acct from divasa. I didn't because he was in good terms with me and he is an educated fellow etc. Now I realise that it was a plot to take the handsome interest to themselves.

This way lots of people went in to minus cash level accounts. How can a minus cash acct exist in a capital market..? I dont know how the regulators allow that. They have sued some of these clients.

Does this emailing fellow has anything to tell regarding minus client accounts, or sueing their clients..? I am looking forward to hear that.

how can they sue? They should be maintain clients accounts 50%,for example-if you have a land worth one million,bank will give you a loan amount 7.5 laks not two million.That is the recovery method...

Well that's usually how things should be. But Capital Loss gave 2mn loans for 1 mn accounts. That way more turnover and more interest on the loan. That's why lots of their clients were wiped out. Smile

Aubrey Perera · 4 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:44 pm

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NLE 18% there are many others in this range 18% to 19%

nimantha80 · 5 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:15 am

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While capital trust give us margin they are on margin too with banks,They have incresed equity pf through margin accounts,If no bull they are also in trouble.

sharemarket · 6 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:00 am

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@gamaya wrote:

GMNet wrote:

@gamaya wrote:Capital lost is the no 1 wipeout agents.
They have now sued many of its own clients who have minus accounts now. Many clients have paid up for fear of going to courts. They often dont even have a margin agreement. Capital lost does nt give the clients agreement copy even.

There main tacticts is keeping high margin to collect the interest money till margin exceed 90%;and only then they force sell. Thus they take maximum utility from their valued clients.

Plus they have lots of valued clients with minus accounts. And the minus is rising each month with interest. Lots of their clients are share owners of obituary investment.

I have been emailed and told by Thushan that you and Smallville got a personal problem with him and two of you are trying to discredit his character. Please feel free to express your concerns here.

Sure. This is my personnel experience with them.

I had a account with them and the margin provider was Divasa equity. In late 2012 my broker boy had took the margin from Divasa without my instructions; Divasa used to forcesell when the account went below 50%. I aked my broker why did you removed my margin provider. He said it is to get me a better margin provider (PM Finance) which had 1% less interest. Then I signed an agreement with PMC and broker boy had sent to head office. I was quite confident all was well.

Then after more than a month he tells me that PMC does not have the capacity to supply margin and I can sign an agreement with capital loss(credit) if I like. All this while my acct is charged high interest and the margin provider was supposed to be capital loss. Now I have no option now but to sign an agreement with their margin firm. Then with the interest and market drop I am in high margin and stuck. Finally they forced sold after around 2 yrs of interest collection.

We usually trust our agents to treat us fairly. Here also I should have complained when my broker removed my margin acct from divasa. I didn't because he was in good terms with me and he is an educated fellow etc. Now I realise that it was a plot to take the handsome interest to themselves.

This way lots of people went in to minus cash level accounts. How can a minus cash acct exist in a capital market..? I dont know how the regulators allow that. They have sued some of these clients.

Does this emailing fellow has anything to tell regarding minus client accounts, or sueing their clients..? I am looking forward to hear that.

how can they sue? They should be maintain clients accounts 50%,for example-if you have a land worth one million,bank will give you a loan amount 7.5 laks not two million.That is the recovery method... Shocked

gamaya · 7 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:21 am

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GMNet wrote:

@gamaya wrote:Capital lost is the no 1 wipeout agents.
They have now sued many of its own clients who have minus accounts now. Many clients have paid up for fear of going to courts. They often dont even have a margin agreement. Capital lost does nt give the clients agreement copy even.

There main tacticts is keeping high margin to collect the interest money till margin exceed 90%;and only then they force sell. Thus they take maximum utility from their valued clients.

Plus they have lots of valued clients with minus accounts. And the minus is rising each month with interest. Lots of their clients are share owners of obituary investment.

I have been emailed and told by Thushan that you and Smallville got a personal problem with him and two of you are trying to discredit his character. Please feel free to express your concerns here.

Sure. This is my personnel experience with them.

I had a account with them and the margin provider was Divasa equity. In late 2012 my broker boy had took the margin from Divasa without my instructions; Divasa used to forcesell when the account went below 50%. I aked my broker why did you removed my margin provider. He said it is to get me a better margin provider (PM Finance) which had 1% less interest. Then I signed an agreement with PMC and broker boy had sent to head office. I was quite confident all was well.

Then after more than a month he tells me that PMC does not have the capacity to supply margin and I can sign an agreement with capital loss(credit) if I like. All this while my acct is charged high interest and the margin provider was supposed to be capital loss. Now I have no option now but to sign an agreement with their margin firm. Then with the interest and market drop I am in high margin and stuck. Finally they forced sold after around 2 yrs of interest collection.

We usually trust our agents to treat us fairly. Here also I should have complained when my broker removed my margin acct from divasa. I didn't because he was in good terms with me and he is an educated fellow etc. Now I realise that it was a plot to take the handsome interest to themselves.

This way lots of people went in to minus cash level accounts. How can a minus cash acct exist in a capital market..? I dont know how the regulators allow that. They have sued some of these clients.

Does this emailing fellow has anything to tell regarding minus client accounts, or sueing their clients..? I am looking forward to hear that.

Jeremy · 8 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:59 am

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@gamaya wrote:Capital lost is the no 1 wipeout agents.
They have now sued many of its own clients who have minus accounts now. Many clients have paid up for fear of going to courts. They often dont even have a margin agreement. Capital lost does nt give the clients agreement copy even.

There main tacticts is keeping high margin to collect the interest money till margin exceed 90%;and only then they force sell. Thus they take maximum utility from their valued clients.

Plus they have lots of valued clients with minus accounts. And the minus is rising each month with interest. Lots of their clients are share owners of obituary investment.

I have been emailed and told by Thushan that you and Smallville got a personal problem with him and two of you are trying to discredit his character. Please feel free to express your concerns here.

gamaya · 9 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:40 pm

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Capital lost is the no 1 wipeout agents.
They have now sued many of its own clients who have minus accounts now. Many clients have paid up for fear of going to courts. They often dont even have a margin agreement. Capital lost does nt give the clients agreement copy even.

There main tacticts is keeping high margin to collect the interest money till margin exceed 90%;and only then they force sell. Thus they take maximum utility from their valued clients.

Plus they have lots of valued clients with minus accounts. And the minus is rising each month with interest. Lots of their clients are share owners of obituary investment.

SHARK aka TAH · 10 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:17 pm

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@dsam wrote:capital trust sold some of my shares which were on credit without informing.This is bad.

i am sure there was a valid reason for that ..... Very Happy

dsam · 11 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:35 pm

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capital trust sold some of my shares which were on credit without informing.This is bad.

SHARK aka TAH · 12 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:04 pm

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@viper123 wrote:Got a call from my broker, and she said that according to the new rule we cant keep the credit more than 14days. Either we have to sell or add new cash. If we need to use the credit then we have an agreement to convert to margin account(24% annual interest).
Does other broker has the same rule ?

This is correct, you have to use one of the margin providers. Very Happy

There is usual, nothing to worry about.

CT have arrangements with PMB, they will send all the papers and you need to agree on the interest %.

Try and avoid margin facility. Smile

Its better on the long run.

GL

gagamini · 13 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:34 pm

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Capital Lost has made millions of losses to clients . Be careful about Capital Lost

wiser · 14 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:59 pm

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Yes don't use Margin in sideway market like we r experiencing these days. Why don't u think to sell few shares even at a loss. I believe you have that courage. So do it. you can buy good trending share in future. There is no duoght about it.

yellow knife · 15 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:26 pm

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Better to avoid margin accounts unless you have accurate signs of a bull . In India these margin facilities were banned from time to time when the same was known as Badla system . These margins are like sharp knives. If you do not know how to handle it surely you will get hurt. Anyway PBJ is talking about reducing even the loan rate for 10%, .IN this background 24% is a very high margin. Be careful

Jiggysaurus · 16 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:55 pm

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Cappa Trust gilmart, giving credit to peepels who don't know how to use credit properly
Cappa Trust accounts having a lot of crapwood and craphouse shares. Now getting heated, if no pro-positive bull in April can see Cappa Trust force selling.

viper123 · 17 Capital Trust on Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:20 pm

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Got a call from my broker, and she said that according to the new rule we cant keep the credit more than 14days. Either we have to sell or add new cash. If we need to use the credit then we have an agreement to convert to margin account(24% annual interest).
Does other broker has the same rule ? Sad

cseguide · 18 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Sat May 25, 2013 8:51 pm

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Brokers should not treat all their clients as fools.

smallville · 19 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Sat May 25, 2013 8:13 pm

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I've deleted the posts where the names are.. So lets talk about this without names..

gamaya · 20 Re: CAPITAL TRUST SECURITIES on Fri May 24, 2013 4:56 pm

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@ethical.investor wrote:Last two months I have made large amount of money due to the margin trading provided by Capital trust Credit, hundreds of clients appreciates this, please don’t misleads newcomers when the markets is going up you need to have margin trading to double the speed to increase your wealth.

Well, for a while you will think margin is great. Capital trust credit don't force sell even when margin goes ove 50%. You or me would not see at first when a market or a share starts going down. We sometimes get the two shocked to sell. (Dear caught in headlight syndrom) And this margin up to 90% is a usefull income source to them.

Force selling when margin goes over 50% is a safety net for undisciplined investors like u and me.

But when marginn goes at 100%, force selling would completely wipe out a portfolio. This has happened to lot of their clients.

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