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Academic wrote:"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."Einstein, A., (1930), "Religion and Science", New York Times Magazine, November 9, pp. 1-4, Available at: http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einsci.htm [accessed on 24/09/2011 ].
chan5 wrote:friend,we call these evidences are class D. which are not reliable,at all.no querries about your 10 years, but the positive outcomes.I gave up meats when i was 16,now 26. Im not misleading ppl, i was elaborating my experience n my knowledge.
read bold words, you see how non specific. underlined sentence is completely wrong, protein metabolism take place in starvation states.and the source is vegetarian website , so poor reliability.Human beings have not been born to live with eating meats. Animal based proteins, of course, are much more similar to our proteins . Plant proteins are somewhat compromised by their limitation of one or more amino acids. When we restore the relatively deficient amino acid in a plant protein, we get a response rate equivalent to animal proteins. Although protein is certainly an essential nutrient which plays many key roles in the way our bodies function, we do not need huge quantities of it. In reality, we need small amounts of protein. Only one calorie out of every ten we take in needs to come from protein.
bold text - is it ?It is very easy for a vegan diet to meet the recommendations for protein. Nearly all vegetables, beans, grains, nuts, and seeds contain some, and often much, protein.eggs, cow's milk, meat, and fish are high quality protein. This means that they have large amounts of all the essential amino acids. Soybeans, quinoa (a grain), and spinach also are considered high quality protein. Other protein sources of non-animal origin usually have all of the essential amino acids.the myth that meat is the only way to get high quality protein, in order to get enough protein without meat, considerable care is needed in choosing foods. Actually it is much easier than we think.
and see the easy menu, it's so easy and can find in sri lanka..
vitamin c plays a synergistic effect on iron absorption - still it's questioning.so your text also say that heam iron is the best.and they haven't mentioned any research article.or link.When we talk about iron ,dried beans and dark green leafy vegetables are especially good sources of iron, even better on a per calorie basis than meat. Iron absorption is increased markedly by eating foods containing vitamin C along with foods containing iron. Vegetarians do not have a higher incidence of iron deficiency than do meat eaters.Its true that Vegan diets only contain non-heme iron. Because of this, iron recommendations are higher for vegetarians than for non-vegetarians.vegan diet contains a form of iron that is not that well absorbed, vegans might be prone to developing iron deficiency anemia. However, surveys of vegans 2,3 have found that iron deficiency anemia is no more common among vegetarians than among the general population although vegans tend to have lower iron stores.Another reason for the satisfactory iron status of vegans is that vegan diets are high in vitamin C. Vitamin C acts to markedly increase absorption of non-heme iron. Adding a vitamin C source to a meal increases non-heme iron absorption up to six-fold which makes the absorption of non-heme iron as good or better than that of heme iron.
applies - the percentage is more in vegans,thank god that you are active but usually vegans are zombies.and in case you dont know, please note these as well.defective neural development,sexual intimacy, all these applies even to those who greedily eat meats.For my experience ,my climax is well in force.Im very active person.
1-Weston A. Price Foundation-a vegetarian diet is far from ideal,strict vegetarianism (veganism) is detrimental to human health.
2-Stephen Byrnes, PhD, RNCP- "many of the vegetarian claims cannot be substantiated and some are simply false and dangerous.
3- H. Leon Abrams - "Humans have always been meat-eaters. The fact that no human society is entirely vegetarian, and those that are almost entirely vegetarian suffer from debilitated conditions of health, seems unequivocally to prove that a plant diet must be supplemented with at least a minimum amount of animal protein to sustain health.
4-in animal products you get saturated fats more - are required for the nervous system to function properly, and over half the fat in the brain is saturated. also help suppress inflammation. Finally, saturated animal fats carry the vital fat-soluble vitamins A, D and K2, which we we need in large amounts to be healthy.we have been consuming saturated fats from animals products, milk products and the tropical oils for thousands of years; it is the advent of modern processed vegetable oil that is associated with the epidemic of modern degenerative disease, not the consumption of saturated fats."
you are welcome.but what i feel is you are definitely not.Its nice to see another medical student in this forum.
why.?
the bold letters at last , newer comes from a medical student. it's quite substandard knowledge if you are.and please note these nothing call cancer , that a misnomer(from hemophilia to meningioma) and refer to cluster of diseases and i'm not sure that what you are talking about.What western scientists are doing,most of them are controlled by big drugs companies, still no cure for cancers and HIV. It seems that they are spreading diseases in hoping mkt their drugs,its one of big business in the world today.
any way as a foot note,
i'm learning stock market these days. i really take you as a serious member and i do follow your posts.and i have learned a lot. so thanks anyway.....
at last, one of my lawyer friend's saying.......
"newer argue with an expert witness at the court , eventhough you know how much about his subject.still he knows more and you could be wrong by some theory" - author unknown
happy trading , happy weekend
ninja wrote:Academic wrote:"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."Einstein, A., (1930), "Religion and Science", New York Times Magazine, November 9, pp. 1-4, Available at: http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einsci.htm [accessed on 24/09/2011 ].
Absolutely true. Some scientific evidence allowing non-veg in some religion;
1. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
2. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
3. Human beings can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food
4. Even plants have life
5. Even plants can feel pain
6. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime
I wanted to shorten the answer here with the intention of taking the audience read first. If you are interested to find more, please visit http://www.islambasics.com/view.php?bkID=154&chapter=1#q6
ninja wrote:@windi5: Why dont you stop quoting the same thing said in the previous post? Quoting has to be used judiciously as the case of our teeth set.
You didn't read the link I gave you as it has the answer to your question. Just quoting the important line but recomend you to read the entire thing for your understanding of this subject
"It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously"
ninja wrote: Some scientific evidence allowing non-veg in some religion;
1. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
2. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
3. Human beings can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food
4. Even plants have life
5. Even plants can feel pain
6. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime
I wanted to shorten the answer here with the intention of taking the audience read first. If you are interested to find more, please visit http://www.islambasics.com/view.php?bkID=154&chapter=1#q6
Gaja wrote:While its up to individuals to decide in which stocks to invest! some people avoid in investing some stocks for some reasons.
If we go that basis in really we can't invest in any stocks, here if you consider poultry stocks as bad, then you should avoid banking sector because they finance it, insurance because they insure these people, transport companies because they used to transport, power sectors because they supply electricity, super markets because they sell those, like the list will go on and go on, because in the world practically you can't isolated any business in the world
Kindly note this reply is not intended to hurt anybody's individual believe.
ninja wrote:@chan
C'mon dear, u r better than this. See through a white glass what is said there. Its a religious site that I agree but the content is the key. If u disagree with the content, then tell that with evidence.
there's nothing like that.any eco system has a maximum carrying capacity.wich is controlled by food demand by the next energy level of food chain.
11. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.
supply and demand ..? here are clever people than me who can explain on this ground.
Cost of meat is reasonable since all aren’t non-vegetarians
I do not mind if some people are pure vegetarians. However they should not condemn non-vegetarians as ruthless. In fact if all Indians become non-vegetarians then the present non-vegetarians would be losers since the prices of meat would rise.
do you think that killing a cow or pig needs such machoism..?
question "Why do you slaughter the animal painfully by cutting the throat instead of the way we do with one stroke i.e. jhatka?"
The Muslim replied "We are brave and courageous and attack from the front.
cardiac arrest occurs in loose of 30% of blood. so no point.The blood has to be drained completely before the head is removed. The purpose is to drain out most of the blood which would serve as a good culture medium for micro organisms. The spinal cord must not be cut because the nerve fibres to the heart could be damaged during the process causing cardiac arrest, stagnating the blood in the blood vessels.
there's a thing cause ischemic pain(pain due to low blood supply) which is the worst you can imagine.the heart attack pain also the same type. ask somebody who had a heart attack and you realize that your book is wrong.it's an unpleasant, often excruciating pain associated with decreased blood flow caused by mechanical obstruction, constricting orthopedic casts, or insufficient blood flowThe swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal struggles, writhers, shakes and kicks, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles defecient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body.
hook worm- by penetrating your foot , not by foodEating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium,
sorry - these texts were removed by myself(chan) as it was away from the topic and i don't want to confront religious views of Islam , "chan"
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ninja wrote:@chan5 Ohhhh! hooow hoooow!, keep ur cool dear, that will make u clear. Be stick to the point and avoid nonsense. We are here having a discussion on having meet is scientific or not. Nothing else.
Will speak about the rest in another forum. Anyway, u r my good friend dear. I sincerely think so and I honestly believe we can be together though we have differences in our opinion. This makes our world beautiful.
Cheers Mate
Don't believe anything just because it was in a book,somebody told,you heard, or even if you see. just think in yourself and you decide,admit those only if you are satisfy with it.
- by lord buddha
This topic is no more a stock market discussion. Hence it shouldn't be move to expert chambers but should be deleted from the forum.Quibit wrote:This is a hot topic.. That's why moved to the expert chambers!!
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chan5 wrote:
there's nothing called western science or western medicine. it's evidence based medicine and science. so i ithink i dont want to argue on heam iron with you.
quantum physics - irrelevant
i don't argue you brother. there's something wrong somewhere in our education system. we were never scientific enough as a nation.all sciences have been battered by religious views and culprits.a man should have a vision and religion.but try to be scientific too.i can give references for all my sayings in reputed journals.This part is for others,If u do not eat meat eat milk products and fresh green leafy vegetables u will not get anaemia or neral canal defect.Do not misguided by 'know it all's posts.
let me put in this in simple way.
if you can find - please watch
prison break - us tele drama
batti or paba - sri lankan's at the same time frame
as both are produced for mass population of respective countries,
see how scientific their population by ,use of biological , chemical and physics applications.
i may sound silly, but seriously note it you will see the light.
no hard feelings
thanks
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Think9, I've attached some poultry related topics those were posted/replied by you.Think9 wrote:Buyin shares on particular stocks means ur a shareholder in that particular share.. buyin these shares, straightly says u owe a company where ppl kill animals to earn..
what goes around comes around.. !!
who is with me ?? we re stil not late to make our mind.
stockanalytic wrote:Think9, I've attached some poultry related topics those were posted/replied by you.Think9 wrote:Buyin shares on particular stocks means ur a shareholder in that particular share.. buyin these shares, straightly says u owe a company where ppl kill animals to earn..
what goes around comes around.. !!
who is with me ?? we re stil not late to make our mind.
are you sure that you didn't invest in poultry stocks??? Promotion also against your theory. But if we clearly analyse the posts made by you - I am sure that you invested in poultry in the past- may be now also.
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t8807-bfl-future
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t7344-hsig-sfs-clpl-wapo-gran-guar-keep-on-eye
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t7560-bfl-keep-an-eye-on
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t7385-bfln0000-tommorow-29-07-2011-technical-analysis-price-level
glwking wrote:As my understanding tourists are staying at hotels. Therefor, hotel sector should benefit from the large number of tourist arrivals. But I never knew (until I read this comments) tourists are staying in chicken farms.![]()
Think9 wrote:@glwking : u should understand the sectors where chicken consumption climb up most. and hotel sector do have a direct relationship with poultry stks. Hotels too have an effect coz of the tourist arrivals but remember ! most of the hotels are still over-valued.. but chicken stocks ( specially BFL ) are still under-valued..
so tourist arrivals gives more benefit for food & beverage stks than hotels ..
glwking wrote:@Think9, I am not against to chicken farmers or paltry stocks. But how can you justify the large number of tourist arrivals will be benefited to Food & beverage sector than hotel sector. Hope you are not kidding.
I too agree, according to the past earnings BFL is trading at lower PER. But these these kind of livestock shares should not trade high PER due to risk involved in the industry.
This just came to ma mind.. once one of ma friends told me not to buy tellin me its a sin but that time i was greedy to earn more money and i bought lot of times..and recently i calculated the gain / loss i got from those , i realized that what i ve earn from those is pretty low... and these re da shares i ve traded most in ma life..
mayb it s message for me to gain low on those.. and I made up ma mind not to buy again.
( though im pretty confident that we will see a chicken run soon. im not gonna enter. )
Think9 wrote:Buyin shares on particular stocks means ur a shareholder in that particular share.. buyin these shares, straightly says u owe a company where ppl kill animals to earn..
what goes around comes around.. !!
who is with me ?? we re stil not late to make our mind.
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