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1Should we be happy Empty Should we be happy Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:27 am

tj


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

In general all are happy as today market went 175 points up with more than 1.5bn turnover. There was very good buying on good counters. Today was net foreign buying of 54Mn. Foreign participation was 13%. All these are fine but we are again seeing the manipulated shares starting to run. After all this down turn i was expecting the market to bounce back with fundamentally strong shares with growth potential. However speculative shares seems to be leading the way again. Arn't we heading for disaster again sooner or later?
What do others think?

Thx
tj

2Should we be happy Empty Re: Should we be happy Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:18 am

OneRupee


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

@ tj

In any market, the rallies start with speculative counters. That's the nature of capital markets. You can't call it manipulation.

It applies both ways. When the market is on the decline, these speculative counters are the first to go down. Furthermore, in a rational market, speculatives move more than proportionately to fundamentals, either up or down.

3Should we be happy Empty Re: Should we be happy Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:57 am

hettdas

hettdas
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OneRupee wrote:@ tj

In any market, the rallies start with speculative counters. That's the nature of capital markets. You can't call it manipulation.

It applies both ways. When the market is on the decline, these speculative counters are the first to go down. Furthermore, in a rational market, speculatives move more than proportionately to fundamentals, either up or down.

I also agree with you. First market must be green. Then investors must decide what to select. No one can stop Manipulations fully. Even last few months SEC also could't stop manupulations completely with so much regulations.

4Should we be happy Empty Re: Should we be happy Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:23 am

sajeethk


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

If the Investors well aware what share Investment for better return by doing home work no manipulators will not there in the market. cos investors will not buy the over value share...

Most of the manipulator making their profit cos most of investor want to make profit with short period of time. so they will hang up will rally share and end up with loss.

why investor cannot do home work then no need put more regulation to the market.

5Should we be happy Empty Re: Should we be happy Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:37 am

srilankanmarket


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

The truth is the fact that Malik Cader is out makes it both good and bad news. You see Malik Cader made decisions for a longer term in mind. Say 2012 or 2013.

In this case There would be healthy growth from those periods onward. Manipulation would have been on and off but would have been much less that what we will see in a few months to come. The truth being that Malik Cader was doing a pretty decent job.

What He failed to see was that PEOPLE HERE WERE SRI LANKANS. haha

All they wanted were quick money no due diligence what so ever just blind investing.

Everything is short term there is no long term for the Sri Lankans (I'm implying on most the people, NOT everyone)

Its like the government saying put your seat belts on when your driving but the Sri Lankan drivers keep saying this government is imposing too much laws. What they fail to see is that its for the passengers/drivers own safety.

Either Ways the share market will move up slowly not as fast you think. So many smart investors have waited for this moment and bought the share at ridiculously low prices. So we will wait and see how they decide to sell.

But the good news is that more people will start investing again. So there are ups and downs as well.

6Should we be happy Empty Re: Should we be happy Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:42 am

upuldi

upuldi
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Senior Equity Analytic

ok may be manipulation can not be prevented. and may be healthy manipulation is good. but what about insider tradings. that is so common in CSE. what about the quality of the market ??? we dont need a Ponzi scheme in CSE. that is the difference between investing and gambling. i accept some of his moves are so dumb and were executed with out proper planing. because of that ppl suffered alot. HNVI and brokers are behind all of this shitty manipulations and insider tradings. its not a secret that the ppl are use CSE for money laundering. ppl who are doing long term investments (and at least ppl who has experience in investing at least 5 years) do not need a market which gives you a 100% return with in a day but eventually collapse in 3 months. Credit clearance was just a drama. when u become more aware of the market you will start hating the brokers and HNVI. ppl who complain about this over regulation stuffs are the ppl who are behind doing shitty things in da market. just see who participated alot yesterday. lets see how the foreign participation of the market after that. this is just my view.

7Should we be happy Empty Re: Should we be happy Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:15 pm

tj


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

@OneRupee

Yes i agree with what you have said. Specualtive
counters will lead either upward or a downwards trend.
However for a sustained growth shares with strong
fundamentals has to move up with volume

Thx
tj

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