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Anyone knows advantages of new system?

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chamith
monash
FXX
sajeethk
snandasiri
K.Haputantri
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mark
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1Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:49 am

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

please share.....

stumpy

stumpy
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Absolutely nothing for most of us...


> Can sell our odd lots without much hazel! Razz

> Can take the market up by few trades in hi-caps

> They're sayin somethin about high data packet transferring rate!
I can't see anything expect expiration & rejection of our orders!
CT DFN is having it's usual delay of 5-30 seconds! I moved to LSL!

K.Haputantri

K.Haputantri
Co-Admin

They say the new system is faster & safer. I think the problem lies in the software compatibility with the new system.

snandasiri

snandasiri
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

After fixing issues,the system will faster as they said.but we have to wait few more days.
There is only 1 advantage for me,I can easily sell my odd shares from right issues.

5Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:25 am

sajeethk


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

It take couple month to see the advantage..

6Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:40 am

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

sajeethk wrote:It take couple month to see the advantage..

advantages such as?

7Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:47 am

FXX

FXX
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

mark wrote:
sajeethk wrote:It take couple month to see the advantage..

advantages such as?
easy to manipulate Very Happy

monash

monash
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

I don't see any advantage of this rubbish other than deceiving inexperienced traders by manipulating ASI through odd lots. This will bring us to another new crisis.. since this system introduced, most of the days ASI green although overall market down. If we were on old system, then whole last week could be red.

This new system is like newa gilunath band choon thing Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Index can not the manipulated with odd lots.
I read a news article from CSE and it says odd lot transaction are not taken into account when index is calculated.

10Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:23 pm

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

chamith wrote:Index can not the manipulated with odd lots.
I read a news article from CSE and it says odd lot transaction are not taken into account when index is calculated.
How come?
Index related to the market capitalisation.

11Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:28 pm

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

I read in a news article.

12Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:25 pm

monash

monash
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

chamith wrote:I read in a news article.

Although SEC say they don't take in to account odd lots.. We can't believe them anymore. What they practice is completely different from what they say in most occasions.

13Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:46 pm

lemuria


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

chamith wrote:Index can not the manipulated with odd lots.
I read a news article from CSE and it says odd lot transaction are not taken into account when index is calculated.

good to know mate. thanks a lot.

14Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:52 pm

Roboticfx

Roboticfx
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

1. Faster than ATS6 but I haven't feel a such change.
2.It is possible to trade shares which were in the odd board easily.
3.Investors can buy and sell their own share quantity.
4.Any investor can manipulate the market just spending less than 30 rupees and with 1 share.
5.Brokers and other parties earn much.
6.Greedy advisers can put new investors into troubles easily and earn some money.
7.Higher responsible authorities can show there power and elite by acting as duds when investors complain.
8.Brokers cannot purchase shares with zero money so far.
9.Brokers don't have much work to do so they can have fun in the job time.
10.Panic selling has become less because of less no of trades.

Very Happy

15Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:56 pm

lemuria


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Roboticfx wrote:1. Faster than ATS6 but I haven't feel a such change.
2.It is possible to trade shares which were in the odd board easily.
3.Investors can buy and sell their own share quantity.
4.Any investor can manipulate the market just spending less than 30 rupees and with 1 share.
5.Brokers and other parties earn much.
6.Greedy advisers can put new investors into troubles easily and earn some money.
7.Higher responsible authorities can show there power and elite by acting as duds when investors complain.
8.Brokers cannot purchase shares with zero money so far.
9.Brokers don't have much work to do so they can have fun in the job time.
10.Panic selling has become less because of less no of trades.

Very Happy

_________________
"Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years."
-----------------------------
Warren Buffett
who is gonna pay my drinking bills Smile

16Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:59 pm

rishanpossitive


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Roboticfx wrote:1. Faster than ATS6 but I haven't feel a such change.
2.It is possible to trade shares which were in the odd board easily.
3.Investors can buy and sell their own share quantity.
4.Any investor can manipulate the market just spending less than 30 rupees and with 1 share.
5.Brokers and other parties earn much.
6.Greedy advisers can put new investors into troubles easily and earn some money.
7.Higher responsible authorities can show there power and elite by acting as duds when investors complain.
8.Brokers cannot purchase shares with zero money so far.
9.Brokers don't have much work to do so they can have fun in the job time.
10.Panic selling has become less because of less no of trades.

Very Happy

On point Roboticfx

17Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:46 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

chamith wrote:I read in a news article.

pls can you post the link...?

18Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:05 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

chamith wrote:Index can not the manipulated with odd lots.
I read a news article from CSE and it says odd lot transaction are not taken into account when index is calculated.

i know you like the new system,but this is not LSE,our market is not liquid...
if you trade you can understand the barriers,....

Anyone knows advantages of new system? Aspi11



http://www.cse.lk/sectors/home.htm


The ASPI indicates the price fluctuations of all the listed companies and covers all the traded companies during a market day.

19Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:38 pm

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Mark,

I also have experienced the issues with the new system. Sometimes I can not see the list of transactions of a particular share. Its a well known fact that if some one shake few large cap counters, the whole market will shake.

What i dont understand is why people are so worrying about having to hold odd number of shares? If you have 149 shares of a company, there is nothing wrong with that. Its the same value. if someone try to trade few shares just to push it up/down, then they get a small punishment. eg: sell 1 share of DIAL and he will end up paying extra for the share he sold.
Like i said i read somewhere that odd transactions does not affect the ASPI but i dont know if thats true.

20Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:01 pm

monash

monash
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

chamith wrote:
Like i said i read somewhere that odd transactions does not affect the ASPI but i dont know if thats true.

I think you talk about this LBO market report,

Brokers said they were still getting used to a new automated trading system upgrade at the Colombo Stock Exchange which was keeping transaction volumes down.

With the so-called 'odd lots' board no longer in place and all stocks going through the main board single shares were being traded at high prices.

However a stock exchange spokesman said trades below 100 shares were not included in the index. Under the earlier system odd lots used to trade to a discount to the main board.


http://www.lbo.lk/fullstory.php?nid=1075963694

21Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:44 am

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

thanks monash, thats what i was looking for.

22Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:44 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

chamith wrote:Mark,

I also have experienced the issues with the new system. Sometimes I can not see the list of transactions of a particular share. Its a well known fact that if some one shake few large cap counters, the whole market will shake.

What i dont understand is why people are so worrying about having to hold odd number of shares? If you have 149 shares of a company, there is nothing wrong with that. Its the same value. if someone try to trade few shares just to push it up/down, then they get a small punishment. eg: sell 1 share of DIAL and he will end up paying extra for the share he sold.
Like i said i read somewhere that odd transactions does not affect the ASPI but i dont know if thats true.

the problem is even though we sell 100block,some bugger buy 1 or 2 shares and make loss trade for us Mad
eventually we end up with payable to brokers Evil or Very Mad

23Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:45 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

monash wrote:
chamith wrote:
Like i said i read somewhere that odd transactions does not affect the ASPI but i dont know if thats true.

I think you talk about this LBO market report,

Brokers said they were still getting used to a new automated trading system upgrade at the Colombo Stock Exchange which was keeping transaction volumes down.

With the so-called 'odd lots' board no longer in place and all stocks going through the main board single shares were being traded at high prices.

However a stock exchange spokesman said trades below 100 shares were not included in the index. Under the earlier system odd lots used to trade to a discount to the main board.


http://www.lbo.lk/fullstory.php?nid=1075963694

Shocked Shocked how is that possible Shocked ,btw thanks

24Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:00 pm

monash

monash
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

mark wrote: the problem is even though we sell 100block,some bugger buy 1 or 2 shares and make loss trade for us Mad
eventually we end up with payable to brokers Evil or Very Mad

Shocked Shocked how is that possible Shocked ,btw thanks

Yes that's why i earlier pointed out earlier that we can't believe SEC anymore. It is impossible to calculate the ASI with the current formula. If they need to, then they must change the formula. But if they change there should be a formal announcement. We didn't see that on past week. The news article quotes just another statement of so called spokesman. So it is not reliable.

I totally agree with you mark. If someone purchased 1 or 2 shares per day from a seller, the seller ended up with a loss trade with new system. Either they should enable minimum fill option or amend fee method Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

25Anyone knows advantages of new system? Empty Re: Anyone knows advantages of new system? Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:09 pm

rishanpossitive


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Everyone can easily become shareholder of every listed company. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad .Please stop this Odd nonsense.

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