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Good to Focus on Exporting Companies-TJL crossing at 12.50

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hariesha
Rajaraam
illuminati
Monster
Redbulls
kam2011
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kam2011


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Today 4,019,960 shares were crossed at Rs. 12.50(+5.10).

If this is not an internal transaction we can guess increasing interest of investors on Exporting Companies. Major reason is LKR depriciation. From last Nov. LKR depriciating and now US$ rate is around 131/- This will trmendouesly increase revenue of all Exporting companies. I think this the reason for sudden investor attraction to Plantation sector. OGL,RAL ,TESS,CTEA and HVA too have a chance to go up as they are also prduced mainly for export.

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

After the crossing the stock may be transferred to a margin account in one of the bank.
So much gilmart are going on in CSE.

kam2011


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Redbulls wrote:After the crossing the stock may be transferred to a margin account in one of the bank.
So much gilmart are going on in CSE.

Ye, Redbull, Problem is the investor confidence now.

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Most likely it was sold by INDRA FINANCE LTD. I assume it's an internal transfer rather than the sale. Anyhow, considering the facts mentioned by kam2011, TJL is best by at this price.

illuminati


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Monster wrote:Most likely it was sold by INDRA FINANCE LTD. I assume it's an internal transfer rather than the sale. Anyhow, considering the facts mentioned by kam2011, TJL is best by at this price.

One thing everybody ignores ( very conveniently) is how about the raw material TJL imports to manufacture their fabric. Do they have to pay more or less ? Guess....

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

illuminati wrote:
Monster wrote:Most likely it was sold by INDRA FINANCE LTD. I assume it's an internal transfer rather than the sale. Anyhow, considering the facts mentioned by kam2011, TJL is best by at this price.

One thing everybody ignores ( very conveniently) is how about the raw material TJL imports to manufacture their fabric. Do they have to pay more or less ? Guess....


Yes illu, there is a point. But TJL should have at least 35%-40% value addition. Just workout the benefit only on value addition. (35% x 20%)Still they have an increase of 7% minimum on totat value. That would increase the profit of TJL significantly. I think you could agree with me.

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Rajaraam wrote:
illuminati wrote:
Monster wrote:Most likely it was sold by INDRA FINANCE LTD. I assume it's an internal transfer rather than the sale. Anyhow, considering the facts mentioned by kam2011, TJL is best by at this price.

One thing everybody ignores ( very conveniently) is how about the raw material TJL imports to manufacture their fabric. Do they have to pay more or less ? Guess....


Yes illu, there is a point. But TJL should have at least 35%-40% value addition. Just workout the benefit only on value addition. (35% x 20%)Still they have an increase of 7% minimum on totat value. That would increase the profit of TJL significantly. I think you could agree with me.

Would like to add to this conversation:

Cotton prices are down by more than 50% during last 12 months. TJL had heavy stocks up to September, which were bought at higher prices. But now I think they are over, as seen in last quarter results. So we can expect more profitability in TJL and other shares in the sector.

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Thank u harisha, Your have a good point to add value to my post.

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

illuminati wrote:
Monster wrote:Most likely it was sold by INDRA FINANCE LTD. I assume it's an internal transfer rather than the sale. Anyhow, considering the facts mentioned by kam2011, TJL is best by at this price.

One thing everybody ignores ( very conveniently) is how about the raw material TJL imports to manufacture their fabric. Do they have to pay more or less ? Guess....

I read about this somewhere.

These exporting oriented companies get their revenue in USD. They keep the money in USD it self in foreign a/c or in a USD a/c in Sri Lanka. Therefore they dont have to buy USD to purchase raw material as they already got USD in their A/c.

Another tactic is trade agreements. Export and get USD, and at the sametime buy raw materials without brining that USD to SL.

Therefore raw materials cost does not go up due to rupee depreciation.

illuminati


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

hariesha wrote:
Rajaraam wrote:
illuminati wrote:
Monster wrote:Most likely it was sold by INDRA FINANCE LTD. I assume it's an internal transfer rather than the sale. Anyhow, considering the facts mentioned by kam2011, TJL is best by at this price.

One thing everybody ignores ( very conveniently) is how about the raw material TJL imports to manufacture their fabric. Do they have to pay more or less ? Guess....


Yes illu, there is a point. But TJL should have at least 35%-40% value addition. Just workout the benefit only on value addition. (35% x 20%)Still they have an increase of 7% minimum on totat value. That would increase the profit of TJL significantly. I think you could agree with me.

Would like to add to this conversation:

Cotton prices are down by more than 50% during last 12 months. TJL had heavy stocks up to September, which were bought at higher prices. But now I think they are over, as seen in last quarter results. So we can expect more profitability in TJL and other shares in the sector.

Wrong .The prices of fabric is adjusted according to cotton prices. Actually TJL will temp benefit if the cotton prices rise now provided they have cotton stocks bought at a lower price.

kam2011


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

chamith wrote:
illuminati wrote:
Monster wrote:Most likely it was sold by INDRA FINANCE LTD. I assume it's an internal transfer rather than the sale. Anyhow, considering the facts mentioned by kam2011, TJL is best by at this price.

One thing everybody ignores ( very conveniently) is how about the raw material TJL imports to manufacture their fabric. Do they have to pay more or less ? Guess....

I read about this somewhere.

These exporting oriented companies get their revenue in USD. They keep the money in USD it self in foreign a/c or in a USD a/c in Sri Lanka. Therefore they dont have to buy USD to purchase raw material as they already got USD in their A/c.

Another tactic is trade agreements. Export and get USD, and at the sametime buy raw materials without brining that USD to SL.

Therefore raw materials cost does not go up due to rupee depreciation.

Agree with you Chamith. Most of the garment exporters imports RM on N.F.E. (No Foreign Exchange involve) basis Whae they supply on a contract.

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Rupee value depreciation would benefit for the following exports oriented companies,

1). DIPD
- A unit of Hayleys, one of the pioneer manufacture and exporter of medical glove.
- Good plantation subsidiary KVAL

2). HAYC
- A unit of Hayleys, world's largest coconut shell based activated carbon manufacturer.
- Insiders have been buying shares in the past 3 months

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator

does TJL export fabric? what is their exposure?

depreciation will help Garment factories though. OGL is the only one and I don't know about their business

econ

econ
Global Moderator

but TJL imports lot of raw materials from other countries.

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

npp wrote:does TJL export fabric? what is their exposure?

depreciation will help Garment factories though. OGL is the only one and I don't know about their business

There are two type of fabric, 1) woven fabric 2) Knitted fabric. World demand for Knitted fabric is increasing rapidly.Knitted fabricis is used for T shirts, Warm cloths etc. TJL is mainly an exporter and also they are a indirect exporter as well. That means they supply fabric to knitted garment exporter too.

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator

Rajaraam wrote:
npp wrote:does TJL export fabric? what is their exposure?

depreciation will help Garment factories though. OGL is the only one and I don't know about their business

There are two type of fabric, 1) woven fabric 2) Knitted fabric. World demand for Knitted fabric is increasing rapidly.Knitted fabricis is used for T shirts, Warm cloths etc. TJL is mainly an exporter and also they are a indirect exporter as well. That means they supply fabric to knitted garment exporter too.


out of curiosity, I want to know the exposure to direct exports.

yes i guess even though when sourcing is done locally, the transaction is done in USD.

kam2011


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Monster wrote:Rupee value depreciation would benefit for the following exports oriented companies,

1). DIPD
- A unit of Hayleys, one of the pioneer manufacture and exporter of medical glove.
- Good plantation subsidiary KVAL

2). HAYC
- A unit of Hayleys, world's largest coconut shell based activated carbon manufacturer.
- Insiders have been buying shares in the past 3 months

Ye, you are right Monster, They are exporting if I am correct nearly 99% of their output. Export income will go up Around 20% due to LKR depriciation. May be big winners of the depriciation.

aj


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

kam2011 wrote:
Monster wrote:Rupee value depreciation would benefit for the following exports oriented companies,

1). DIPD
- A unit of Hayleys, one of the pioneer manufacture and exporter of medical glove.
- Good plantation subsidiary KVAL

2). HAYC
- A unit of Hayleys, world's largest coconut shell based activated carbon manufacturer.
- Insiders have been buying shares in the past 3 months

Ye, you are right Monster, They are exporting if I am correct nearly 99% of their output. Export income will go up Around 20% due to LKR depriciation. May be big winners of the depriciation.

When Perera sells his garage or old coconut estate to these hayleys companies to suck all the money or to ask them to buy some company he likes to takeover, all those speculated profits will vaporize. Smile

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

kam2011 wrote:
Monster wrote:Rupee value depreciation would benefit for the following exports oriented companies,

1). DIPD
- A unit of Hayleys, one of the pioneer manufacture and exporter of medical glove.
- Good plantation subsidiary KVAL

2). HAYC
- A unit of Hayleys, world's largest coconut shell based activated carbon manufacturer.
- Insiders have been buying shares in the past 3 months

Ye, you are right Monster, They are exporting if I am correct nearly 99% of their output. Export income will go up Around 20% due to LKR depriciation. May be big winners of the depriciation.

I too agree with you Monster and kam2011. Hope they would show encouraging results for coming quaters.

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