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FINANCIAL CHRONICLE™ » CORPORATE CHRONICLE™ » Is this the best time to invest new money ?

Is this the best time to invest new money ?

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Redbulls
K.Haputantri
Roboticfx
smallville
mnilanga
ccsentha
Rajaraam
hariesha
lakmalrupasinghe
bullrun
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notme

notme
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

reasons ? please share your ideas ! flower flower flower

notme

notme
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

what has happened to the theory of "buy when others sell and sell when others buy"

bullrun

bullrun
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Yes, this is the ideal time, if you have savings which do not want to get back soon. Go for fundamentally sound things. They will go slowly not like speculative. When the market is fully geared you can even think about speculative too.

lakmalrupasinghe


Stock Trader

I also beleive now its the best time to invest when the shares are all time low.

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Yes. This is the best time to invest, as I believe.

1. On the local side we can see buying from large institutions and equity funds.

2. On the foreign side, we can see very large funds (sovereign funds), which hasn't being into the local bourse earlier picking up shares. Mid-size funds also highly active on buying. I believe foreign individuals and Sri Lankans living abroad also in the buy side as evident in net foreign inflows on small turnover days like today.

For Sri Lankans living abroad it's an unbelievable opportunity. Most shares are at less than 50% of the price than it was one year back. On top of that they are getting another 15% discount in the currency conversion.

3. So, where is the problem? Some of the retailers were totally exhausted as their portfolios were mainly with speculative shares as they wanted quick money. They entered the market at high levels. The existing retailer’s buying power is limited or they are in a negative mind set. Most in this category are the people who joined very recently.

People, who have been in the market before the war is over, are not worried. They know by experience, capital market is giving better returns than fixed deposits. People who had the habit of investing certain portion of their income in the CSE are certainly happy about current situation. It’s like a 2nd Innings for them. They had a good first innings after the war.

4. Then the HNWIs. We can see two types of HNWIs in CSE.

a. Investors - We can see this category has become active now.
ie: Dr. S. He is buying certain shares, probably for averaging. Only
Dr.S and few others are getting highlighted as they directors of
respective companies. Others are hardly visible.

b. Traders – These guys are bit silent. They need a crowded market for
their games. But some are there. Look at volumes of PCH and GREG.
PCH is the most liquid share in the market now. Even in a very dull
market day like today, around 300,000 shares traded without
significant price movement.


bullrun

bullrun
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Weldone Harieshe,

Your words will become true soon.

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

bullrun wrote:Weldone Harieshe,

Your words will become true soon.

bullrun , you understand it correctly.Today turnover low . but INDEX remained stable .

ccsentha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Rajaraam wrote:
bullrun wrote:Weldone Harieshe,

Your words will become true soon.

bullrun , you understand it correctly.Today turnover low . but INDEX remained stable .

mate, so you are predicting that we are some where close to the start of a bull run?

bullrun

bullrun
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Don't think about Bull Run. Think about the growth! Think to invest at least medium term. If you go after Bull Run, you will definitely loose.

10Is this the best time to invest new money ?  Empty v gud explanation. tks lot Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:29 am

mnilanga

mnilanga
Stock Trader

hariesha wrote:Yes. This is the best time to invest, as I believe.

1. On the local side we can see buying from large institutions and equity funds.

2. On the foreign side, we can see very large funds (sovereign funds), which hasn't being into the local bourse earlier picking up shares. Mid-size funds also highly active on buying. I believe foreign individuals and Sri Lankans living abroad also in the buy side as evident in net foreign inflows on small turnover days like today.

For Sri Lankans living abroad it's an unbelievable opportunity. Most shares are at less than 50% of the price than it was one year back. On top of that they are getting another 15% discount in the currency conversion.

3. So, where is the problem? Some of the retailers were totally exhausted as their portfolios were mainly with speculative shares as they wanted quick money. They entered the market at high levels. The existing retailer’s buying power is limited or they are in a negative mind set. Most in this category are the people who joined very recently.

People, who have been in the market before the war is over, are not worried. They know by experience, capital market is giving better returns than fixed deposits. People who had the habit of investing certain portion of their income in the CSE are certainly happy about current situation. It’s like a 2nd Innings for them. They had a good first innings after the war.

4. Then the HNWIs. We can see two types of HNWIs in CSE.

a. Investors - We can see this category has become active now.
ie: Dr. S. He is buying certain shares, probably for averaging. Only
Dr.S and few others are getting highlighted as they directors of
respective companies. Others are hardly visible.

b. Traders – These guys are bit silent. They need a crowded market for
their games. But some are there. Look at volumes of PCH and GREG.
PCH is the most liquid share in the market now. Even in a very dull
market day like today, around 300,000 shares traded without
significant price movement.


smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Hariesha seems to have given a good view on today's investment oppertunities, so I'd make my comment short.

Foreign accounts with locals or foreigners ususally are investors. They buy shares with a mid to long-term view. Therefore; if they buy today at a low price or even buy after a week or so a little bit of lower than today would not make any difference for them I guess.
What I'm trying to imply is the difference in a ruppee, two or three down from a share's price would not make a significant impact on their buying, they'll keep averagin their favourite counters regarless of the possible losses.
Cuz they know that the rupee devaluation even their losses in a case of a loss if they suddenly wanted to quit.

Rajaraam wrote:Weldone Harieshe,

Your words will become true soon.

bullrun , you understand it correctly.Today turnover low . but INDEX remained stable .


Raja, at low volumes; do u think indexes are on Green side due to genuine buy or pushed up buys with large caps?

bullrun wrote:Don't think about Bull Run. Think about the growth! Think to invest at least medium term. If you go after Bull Run, you will definitely loose.

True enuf.. Bull or not, there are oppertunities..

But overally I'm not that satisfied how market operates with low volumes..
So I'd wait a few more days and see..

My advice for collectors -> If ur target is to collect 10K shares in a particular counter, get it done in chunks. dont buy in 5000, 3000 quantities at once. Go on 500-1000 chunks.

If would not make sense to average down normally, but given the scenario that we could be on a market bottom as few TAs predicted, it would be worthwhile to follow. Cuz what technically we see could also be a manipulated game, therefore we have to cut down the possible losses in case of market heading South.

Roboticfx

Roboticfx
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Bull and bearish tightly connected with the investors' confidence. (Actually the real meanings of these two words). I asked and learned a lot of things related to this stream from my lecturer who is an expert and he has practical experience about 35 years.

Now we are at the middle of bull and bear but bearish signals can be seen significantly. As my lec's opinion, this has caused as of the two parties of investors, who have positive ideas(buyers) and who have negative ideas(sellers and silent investors). At the present the power of both of them are approximately equal. When positive party extend their extent, bull signals will be generated. The background of the market should be cleared and corrected to reach that situation. After first bull come to the market, up and down price pattern (zig zag) will start. Sometimes, downwards will be deep. ( we will think that's another blood pool but it won't) When all bulls come, market will go ahead positively. The roads of this trip will be decided by other factors.

K.Haputantri

K.Haputantri
Co-Admin

smallville wrote:Hariesha seems to have given a good view on today's investment oppertunities, so I'd make my comment short.

Foreign accounts with locals or foreigners ususally are investors. They buy shares with a mid to long-term view. Therefore; if they buy today at a low price or even buy after a week or so a little bit of lower than today would not make any difference for them I guess.
What I'm trying to imply is the difference in a ruppee, two or three down from a share's price would not make a significant impact on their buying, they'll keep averagin their favourite counters regarless of the possible losses.
Cuz they know that the rupee devaluation even their losses in a case of a loss if they suddenly wanted to quit.

Rajaraam wrote:Weldone Harieshe,

Your words will become true soon.

bullrun , you understand it correctly.Today turnover low . but INDEX remained stable .


Raja, at low volumes; do u think indexes are on Green side due to genuine buy or pushed up buys with large caps?

bullrun wrote:Don't think about Bull Run. Think about the growth! Think to invest at least medium term. If you go after Bull Run, you will definitely loose.

True enuf.. Bull or not, there are oppertunities..

But overally I'm not that satisfied how market operates with low volumes..
So I'd wait a few more days and see..

My advice for collectors -> If ur target is to collect 10K shares in a particular counter, get it done in chunks. dont buy in 5000, 3000 quantities at once. Go on 500-1000 chunks.

If would not make sense to average down normally, but given the scenario that we could be on a market bottom as few TAs predicted, it would be worthwhile to follow. Cuz what technically we see could also be a manipulated game, therefore we have to cut down the possible losses in case of market heading South.

You have given us a well balanced view (of the curent volatile situation) which would certainly guide members safely in to the uncertain future. Thanks Smallville. This is the kind of contribution I expect from every one. Your yeoman service to the community is appreciated.

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

K.Haputantri wrote:
smallville wrote:Hariesha seems to have given a good view on today's investment oppertunities, so I'd make my comment short.

Foreign accounts with locals or foreigners ususally are investors. They buy shares with a mid to long-term view. Therefore; if they buy today at a low price or even buy after a week or so a little bit of lower than today would not make any difference for them I guess.
What I'm trying to imply is the difference in a ruppee, two or three down from a share's price would not make a significant impact on their buying, they'll keep averagin their favourite counters regarless of the possible losses.
Cuz they know that the rupee devaluation even their losses in a case of a loss if they suddenly wanted to quit.

Rajaraam wrote:Weldone Harieshe,

Your words will become true soon.

bullrun , you understand it correctly.Today turnover low . but INDEX remained stable .


Raja, at low volumes; do u think indexes are on Green side due to genuine buy or pushed up buys with large caps?

bullrun wrote:Don't think about Bull Run. Think about the growth! Think to invest at least medium term. If you go after Bull Run, you will definitely loose.

True enuf.. Bull or not, there are oppertunities..

But overally I'm not that satisfied how market operates with low volumes..
So I'd wait a few more days and see..

My advice for collectors -> If ur target is to collect 10K shares in a particular counter, get it done in chunks. dont buy in 5000, 3000 quantities at once. Go on 500-1000 chunks.

If would not make sense to average down normally, but given the scenario that we could be on a market bottom as few TAs predicted, it would be worthwhile to follow. Cuz what technically we see could also be a manipulated game, therefore we have to cut down the possible losses in case of market heading South.

You have given us a well balanced view (of the curent volatile situation) which would certainly guide members safely in to the uncertain future. Thanks Smallville. This is the kind of contribution I expect from every one. Your yeoman service to the community is appreciated.

Totally agree with all of your comments.
But external forces may overturn the situation from bad to worse even worst due to our back bone less cabinet and super power.
(Recent incident of abduction and surrender story how our guys are handling the matter seems to be another heading for south)
No doubt we are seeing 52 weeks low on more counter, good oppertunity. But these power hunger guys stupid actions can lead to even 104 or 156 week low.
For me after last week,better to look for some alternative investment for time being is the best solution.

kam2011


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Roboticfx wrote:Bull and bearish tightly connected with the investors' confidence. (Actually the real meanings of these two words). I asked and learned a lot of things related to this stream from my lecturer who is an expert and he has practical experience about 35 years.

Now we are at the middle of bull and bear but bearish signals can be seen significantly. As my lec's opinion, this has caused as of the two parties of investors, who have positive ideas(buyers) and who have negative ideas(sellers and silent investors). At the present the power of both of them are approximately equal. When positive party extend their extent, bull signals will be generated. The background of the market should be cleared and corrected to reach that situation. After first bull come to the market, up and down price pattern (zig zag) will start. Sometimes, downwards will be deep. ( we will think that's another blood pool but it won't) When all bulls come, market will go ahead positively. The roads of this trip will be decided by other factors.

Very valuable thoughts Robo.

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Roboticfx wrote:Bull and bearish tightly connected with the investors' confidence. (Actually the real meanings of these two words). I asked and learned a lot of things related to this stream from my lecturer who is an expert and he has practical experience about 35 years.

Now we are at the middle of bull and bear but bearish signals can be seen significantly. As my lec's opinion, this has caused as of the two parties of investors, who have positive ideas(buyers) and who have negative ideas(sellers and silent investors). At the present the power of both of them are approximately equal. When positive party extend their extent, bull signals will be generated. The background of the market should be cleared and corrected to reach that situation. After first bull come to the market, up and down price pattern (zig zag) will start. Sometimes, downwards will be deep. ( we will think that's another blood pool but it won't) When all bulls come, market will go ahead positively. The roads of this trip will be decided by other factors.

Yes what your lecturer said are valid facts. In other words this bull/bear period should lead to a consolidation so the market will become more stable without huge hikes or huge drops. I repeatedly mentioned in the forum that consolidation is the next best thing before the next bull/bear run. Then again maybe we can see some ups and down.

No market goes straight up or starigh down. No market that is natural that is Wink

Roboticfx

Roboticfx
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Ha ha! well done by cse! Now background is becoming better!

mra

mra
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

My feeling is that, this is not the right time to buy. CSE may witness ASI below 5000 level soon. there won't be bull run or bear run. just few points here and there could be seen. invest in FD is more suitable things to do at this moment.

RG


Stock Trader

I started collecting rich from this January. Very Happy As a habit I keep investing some money at CSE, but don't expect to withdraw those at least 10 years.

now a days working more hours to find some extra money to invest in CSE bounce . I hope our market will bounce back soon to previous level.

Roboticfx

Roboticfx
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

RG wrote:I started collecting rich from this January. Very Happy As a habit I keep investing some money at CSE, but don't expect to withdraw those at least 10 years.

now a days working more hours to find some extra money to invest in CSE bounce . I hope our market will bounce back soon to previous level.

Good thoughts ma friend! Keep it up!

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