As usual hasty unruly comments to attack people after returning to forum after a long time.
Firstly explain to me why you are contradicting
your own post last year .
1)
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t4495-cdb-research#30256
"I did a analysis way back like 4 montha ago and had like 2 page discussion ( mostly people saying why it should not go up )! Try to find it if can! Back then it was at Rs 70! Anyway it way undervalued but most big guns been dumping shares to market past few months in big amounts! Unless this would be way higher! I also quite the share around 103 this time around and might enter later!"
2) What about this comment you made
Rajitha wrote:
Company has declared EPS for quarter of Rs. 5.31 (Annualized EPS 21.24). Although this includes some mark to mark evaluations and if you even completely remove these investments it’s EPS for quarter of Rs. 2.4 is 45.45% increase to its last quarter EPS of Rs.1.64.
I could only see up to three quarterly earnings as only two financial statements out and the EPS for the 3 stands as Rs. 0.87, 1.65, 2.4 over 50% growth quarterly to quarterly with the least EPS accounted. The company has a Forward PE of 80/9.6= 7.5. This means the PEG Ratio for company stands at a mere 0.15 where 1 is the in line with market. So a HUGE undervalued share.
The sector PE ratio is also around over 20. This means even if you forget the huge growth the company is having you can see its trading at below half of its potential value with a mere 7.5 PE at worst case. OFC the value of this share goes up exponentially when you add in Mark to mark valued EPS of Rs. 5.31 per quarter. Also if I can remember right the singer finance that just enter the market in same sector have only Rs. 1.2 EPS annually while the share is trading at Rs50 now !!
Another thing to consider is that on the starting day of the share it went up to Rs.160 and settled down around Rs. 90 as I can see. (I was not in the market then). This means there are a huge number of people that bought this share really high.
Cheers.
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t4065-cdb-results-out#27501
3) how about this
Rajitha wrote:
I made a small analysis about the share and told its great in medium term when it hit Rs. 70. Still its a really good share if you look at there earnings and compare with the rest of the firms in CSE.
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t529-cdb-is-a-good-bet
4) Need more ? How about this ?
Rajitha wrote: Hi can anyone say whats up with CDB? It was trading at even Rs 89 after the quarterly and it suddenly dipped as low as 70s next day. Not to mention main reason was a 300k sell order put out at 70 when the CDS amount of CSE amount floating around is like 6.4million shares. Also Dr. Senthivail has like 1 million shares and he sold 500 yesterday. YES thats right 500 from his 1million!
CDB is a gr8 company and from the reaserch I have done,
Company has declared EPS for quarter of Rs. 5.31 (Annualized EPS 21.24). Although this includes some mark to mark evaluations and if you even completely remove these investments it’s EPS for quarter of Rs. 2.4 is 45.45% increase to its last quarter EPS of Rs.1.64.
I could only see up to three quarterly earnings as only two financial statements out and the EPS for the 3 stands as Rs. 0.87, 1.65, 2.4 over 50% growth quarterly to quarterly with the least EPS accounted. The company has a Forward PE of 80/9.6= 7.5. This means the PEG Ratio for company stands at a mere 0.15 where 1 is the in line with market. So a HUGE undervalued share.
The sector PE ratio is also around over 20. This means even if you forget the huge growth the company is having you can see its trading at below half of its potential value with a mere 7.5 PE at worst case. OFC the value of this share goes up exponentially when you add in Mark to mark valued EPS of Rs. 5.31 per quarter. Also if I can remember right the singer finance that just enter the market in same sector have only Rs. 1.2 EPS annually while the share is trading at Rs50 now !!
Another thing to consider is that on the starting day of the share it went up to Rs.160 and settled down around Rs. 90 as I can see. (I was not in the market then). This means there are a huge number of people that bought this share really high.
Cheers.
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t82-why-is-cdb-going-down
So when you yourself glorified this so much , after 1 year with NAV improvement and profit growth you say this is not worth 'Rs 80. Fantastic arguments.
Okay
if you are contradicting to show superiority, show me your valuation and tell me how much CDB is worth now? It is easy to put down anyone and argue. But show facts. Explain to me why is it not worth at this price.
1) If you say book value is also not used go read how financial sector shares are valued.
2) Yes ALLI is worth more than 1200 to me also on NAV and PE. So what is the issue? CDB is another Share.
3) Did you see
I discounted PE to around 10 though they showed 2 consecutives years of eps around 13.
4) Are you saying this share will never run more than the right issue price of Rs 70 again?
5) What is the issue of being a Ceylinco Company if it is managed okay. Presume Dr Senthilverl and Perpetual is stupid to hold CDB in the top 20?
Here is this quarterly report
http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/981_1344597349.pdf
Show me if
a) interest income has not grown.
b) Did you see the other income amounts?
c) There is even a 32 million allocated for loan loss this quarter to give 1.87 eps.
d) Hasn't their deposits grown
Even if eps is 8 , why is this share not worth Rs 80.
Here is the annual report ,
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t82-why-is-cdb-going-down
Show me all the bad you mentioned? Rajitha wrote: slstock wrote:This is not a buy/sell recommendation. Just a small analysis. I hold presently.
1)There was a right issue at Rs 70 per share. This is trading around Rs 40 still. Rs 30 less than the right issues itself.
2) Top 10 share holders have about 80% .20% with others only 9.5 million . So in a run it can be rather illiquid.
3) Earnings :
Last year EPS = 13.1 ( YoY growth also even with
Last quarter EPS = 1.87
( note though it appears there is a drop on YoY EPS actually there is a profit growth of 21% this quarter as number of shares increased over a right issue)
4) NAV around 45
5) CDB has produced decent results in diffficult times.
6) Also CDB is into Micro finance which will have tax benefits if I recall right
Valuation :
Based on past 2 year performance we can estimate eps of 13 again . But for argument sake lets say 10.
So even if we consider 1.9 Book value as per market = value if around Rs 90
On PE of 10 vlaue is = about Rs 100
So in a true bull run it can easily gain over 100% at Rs 80.
One of the more attractive banking/fin shares in the market.
I bought this and earned quite a lot when this was in 40s range about year and half back! But there are MANY WRONG predictions and analysis here!
First off their EPS has shown huge values in last year as they have all of a sudden started to revalue include investments! So when investments go down you will have lower EPS according to them! But as they are not selling those investments these are really stupid way to get EPS! Its like Namal unit fund saying about their EPS!! IF anything the real EPS for this share can't exceed Rs 7 even fro the year!
Also how did you get the value of 1.9x book value to calculate expected share value? That's dam wrong man! by that logic share like ALLI in same sector should be = Rs 593*1.9= Rs 1126! Also about 100% gain! anyway its a stupid way to calculate a shares fair value by taking its book value for a finance sector share! Also you forgot to mention that one reason its trading to a discount is that the company was a part of the CEYLINCO group! So peoples trust is still not with these companies!
I'm not saying its a crap share by any means but you are just painting just one side of the picture with wrong data!