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Too fast ...kills

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suja
Roboticfx
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market bull
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K.Haputantri
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SL.Market
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1Too fast ...kills Empty Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:34 am

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Too fast movements of Speculative s will kill the market.... even before the genuine bull trend begins... Shocked LOL...

Finally the long waited bull run will end without lasting even a month if this trend of speculative continues further more...

I strongly believe if the mkt to sustain in these levels & to go pass the 5600 then its time for fundamentals to move up today or tomorrow and carry the trend forward...but if the upward trend is solely shouldered by the speculative s then.... expect affraid

2Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:41 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Well the spec holders needs also a hike to get rid of them if they need to. I only hope most of the retailers do not drive these to unjustifiable level buying and when they are selling to invest the money in some valuable share.

3Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:50 am

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

slstock wrote:Well the spec holders needs also a hike to get rid of them if they need to. I only hope most of the retailers do not drive these to unjustifiable level buying and when they are selling to invest the money in some valuable share.

If so...then thank God......!

But What I see is, our retailers are greedily chasing specs again and that's same money rotates every day other than infusing new investments since last week.... Sad same kind of shares & pattern as we saw in 2010 just before the collapse.... Twisted Evil Started with BFL then GRAN, TAFL, REEF, HVA, CSF, SEMB....LOL the only missing is Great platinum mine...GREG.... Very Happy

4Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:42 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

At the moment of writing ASI is 20 points down..

This is what I iterate last few days.. The market runs on credit and no new investments money coming in.. May be the foreigners buy with money but locals its credit again.

All can have their laugh now.. tongue

Ppl who take advantage of pull backs be careful.. I cancelled several orders..

5Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:01 pm

Lalindra

Lalindra
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

smallville wrote:At the moment of writing ASI is 20 points down..

This is what I iterate last few days.. The market runs on credit and no new investments money coming in.. May be the foreigners buy with money but locals its credit again.

All can have their laugh now.. tongue

Ppl who take advantage of pull backs be careful.. I cancelled several orders..

What did you mean by pull backs?

6Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:03 pm

Lalindra

Lalindra
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

RIO wrote:Too fast movements of Speculative s will kill the market.... even before the genuine bull trend begins... Shocked LOL...

Finally the long waited bull run will end without lasting even a month if this trend of speculative continues further more...

I strongly believe if the mkt to sustain in these levels & to go pass the 5600 then its time for fundamentals to move up today or tomorrow and carry the trend forward...but if the upward trend is solely shouldered by the speculative s then.... expect affraid


I think you've been proven right. Smile

7Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:14 pm

SL.Market

SL.Market
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

smallville wrote:At the moment of writing ASI is 20 points down..

This is what I iterate last few days.. The market runs on credit and no new investments money coming in.. May be the foreigners buy with money but locals its credit again.

All can have their laugh now.. tongue

Ppl who take advantage of pull backs be careful.. I cancelled several orders..

well said smal...

more than 10 days up the market... If dropped two days we will see how many crying here..
it is natural

8Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:30 pm

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

This is temporary phenomenon
Any market you can see ups and Downs

9Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:39 pm

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

D.G.Dayaratne wrote:This is temporary phenomenon
Any market you can see ups and Downs

Oh yes 1000 times agreeing with you...We have seen the heaven & as well as the hell in past 2 years.... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

which one you said as a temporary phenomenon...? the upward trend which we had in last few days or the Down ward trend which started today...???

10Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:52 pm

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Downward Trend will be temporary Mydear

11Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:58 pm

RIO

RIO
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

D.G.Dayaratne wrote:Downward Trend will be temporary Mydear

Ok...hope for the best...but My sense says the present down trend is indicating the direction of the near future of the MKT ....!
I too wish if the Up trend continues as I have few more to dump & jump.. Wink

12Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:39 pm

K.Haputantri

K.Haputantri
Co-Admin

Dump & Jump is not an offense. It is Pump & Dump that is bad. Ha Ha!!

13Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:50 pm

snandasiri

snandasiri
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

D.G.Dayaratne wrote:This is temporary phenomenon
Any market you can see ups and Downs
Cool
No reason to panic.
Smile

14Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:54 pm

market bull

market bull
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

hmm nice try,anyway ASI might be red after adjustments.SELI one share traded & got nearly 10 points contribution to ASI.

today turnover of some shares were two times of average daily turnover for last 1-2 weeks,might be an indication of selling. Tomorrow might be a worst day.

I am trying to figure out how many genuine red days we can expect.

some time my personal opinion may be wrong.Wait & see.

15Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:15 pm

wiki


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Yes too fast kill

It is very well known that this push is done by using credit... Market can go other way with same rate if fresh funds are not coming.

in this miracle land any thing can happen .. sometimes change of margin trading rule may on the card with interest rates cut .

16Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:43 pm

Deva


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

This is how I would look at the current market status(may be I am wrong).

There were huge collections by the big guns during bear runs. Last two weeks they took the market up to sell their collections.
I sense today it was a day for these same people to collect at a lower price by pulling the market down.
Most likely this would last for 1-2 days and start the push upwards.

Be positive. Good luck. Smile

17Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:19 pm

Roboticfx

Roboticfx
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

It is possible to happen a small downward while a bull trend is going on. When the no of trades are considered, I don't think the situation will be more worse. This was happened as I felt, coz of selling pressure was little higher than the buying pressure. Everyone is trying to get out of the hell where they were staying a long time. Tomorrow trading will give us a proper idea whether the trend will continue or will be stable at this position. However, no visible signs to go back to the start point.

Cheers! Happy Trading! Very Happy

18Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:31 pm

suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

close to 2 Bn traded today. Most of the shares were retail favourites, all what you have said is true but I feel that the market will be down or sideways for 2 days max and it will go up. Not a technical indication just my observation for a long time looking at the market.

19Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:22 pm

pathfinder

pathfinder
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

D.G.Dayaratne wrote:This is temporary phenomenon
Any market you can see ups and Downs
Nothing remains erect all the time lol!

20Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:19 pm

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

This is from NDB daily report...

"The market was due for a slowdown after the rapid rise in
share prices over the last 2 weeks. A period of consolidation
is required to sustain the current Bull Run."

21Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:37 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

lbt.lk says

"The day witnessed profit taking mainly on the overheated retail
favorites and closed the day almost flat ending its 10 day stay in the
green territory."


malanp wrote:This is from NDB daily report...

"The market was due for a slowdown after the rapid rise in
share prices over the last 2 weeks. A period of consolidation
is required to sustain the current Bull Run."

22Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:55 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

market bull wrote:hmm nice try,anyway ASI might be red after adjustments.SELI one share traded & got nearly 10 points contribution to ASI.

today turnover of some shares were two times of average daily turnover for last 1-2 weeks,might be an indication of selling. Tomorrow might be a worst day.

I am trying to figure out how many genuine red days we can expect.

some time my personal opinion may be wrong.Wait & see.

Good observation.. Make sense.. I seriously hope market wont fall..

Deva wrote:This is how I would look at the current market status(may be I am wrong).

There were huge collections by the big guns during bear runs. Last two weeks they took the market up to sell their collections.
I sense today it was a day for these same people to collect at a lower price by pulling the market down.
Most likely this would last for 1-2 days and start the push upwards.

Be positive. Good luck. Smile

Correct.. but all these so called big guns averaged down imo.. Where they get new capital, have their companies shown remarkable results? No..
So I'm 100% sure the credit facilities would've been granted lavishly by the brokers.. After all brokers were also beaten down, their income might've been bad in the bear days Wink
So we saw a credit run.. Can a market sustain with credit?
I wanna re-iterate this one.. Some HNWIs have billion rupee margins in losses.. So this is the time they could take the retailers on a ride..

So another run could be imminent too after a pull back.. Or else we dont see the light..

23Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:31 pm

Hiru


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

In my opinion, there are certain good counters where the collections are going on...for example you can see how much BIL shares have been traded today at 4.40 level ( artificially put at this level putting a 1.6 selling orders at 4.50) . Also I feel that what ever happens to the market in next few days, it would start bull trend with plantation sector and investment companies like CINV, BIN etc....my observation. (I have BIN but not Others)

Also, if the market could go this much up with credits why we have to worry about fresh cash. My feeling is some shares which has fundamental values are appreciating little by little with fresh cash injections-that's why there are no panic sellers for those shares.



Last edited by Hiru on Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:00 pm; edited 1 time in total

24Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:43 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

I think you mean BIL not BIN? ( BINN is land only haha)

Yes certain fundamental shares have been appreciating little by little so far.

Apart from some fundamental penny stocks, Certain shares in the bank, agri, manufacturing sector has appreciated.

They did not run in day and were most times gradual increases with dips in the middle.



Hiru wrote:In my opinion, there are certain good counters where the collections are going on...for example you can see how much BIN shares have been traded today at 4.40 level ( artificially put at this level putting a 1.6 selling orders at 4.50) . Also I feel that what ever happens to the market in next few days, it would start bull trend with plantation sector and investment companies like CINV, BIN etc....my observation. (I have BIN but not Others)

Also, if the market could go this much up with credits why we have to worry about fresh cash. My feeling is some shares which has fundamental values are appreciating little by little with fresh cash injections-that's why there are no panic sellers for those shares.



Last edited by slstock on Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:05 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : had list of share before but I edited so people who not blindly note.)

25Too fast ...kills Empty Re: Too fast ...kills Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:01 pm

Hiru


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Thanks. it is BIL, i corrected it.

slstock wrote:I think you mean BIL not BIN? ( BINN is land only haha)

Yes certain fundamental shares have been appreciating little by little so far.

Apart from some fundamental penny stocks, Certain shares in the bank, agri, manufacturing sector has appreciated.

They did not run in day and were most times gradual increases with dips in the middle.



Hiru wrote:In my opinion, there are certain good counters where the collections are going on...for example you can see how much BIN shares have been traded today at 4.40 level ( artificially put at this level putting a 1.6 selling orders at 4.50) . Also I feel that what ever happens to the market in next few days, it would start bull trend with plantation sector and investment companies like CINV, BIN etc....my observation. (I have BIN but not Others)

Also, if the market could go this much up with credits why we have to worry about fresh cash. My feeling is some shares which has fundamental values are appreciating little by little with fresh cash injections-that's why there are no panic sellers for those shares.

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