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Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations

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1Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Empty Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:44 pm

Sandstorm

Sandstorm
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Why SEC is only trying to investigate Dilith, Nimal and rest of the innocent guys for share manipulation. Rusi Capitain is pumping and dumping John Keells Holdings shares at his whips and fancy everyday. His action had affected the ASI index and many small investors.



Last edited by Sandstorm on Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:09 pm; edited 2 times in total

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Well to be frank I have not seen more than 10% fluctuations of JKH within a day. Also it is not that easy to manipulate JKH to extremes. So am not sure how bothered we should be of this.

The main issue is as JKH is highest cap, even 5% movement effect index and it is noticeable.

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Well if Rusi Captain wants to shed some of his holdings in JKH, can CSE stop him? Shocked

Why SEC is only trying to investigate Dilith, Nimal and rest of the innocent guys (u mean the criminal babies, right?) is that they've done day light robberies more than Rusi imo..

Who can take a big stake in PMB implying they've found some synergies that could be coupled for future prospects and few days later dump the holding on retailers sayin "We actually waere wrong, cannot find such synergies...."?
Gosh.. a strategic investment is done after a lot of analysis I believed..

Then who would sell a 10% stake at PCH to another HNWI and made millions overnight only to make the buyer also rich by announcing the move?
These guys have no hurry disclosing their dealings for weeks sometimes but sometimes the news is out withing hrs..

But the irony is; our retailers are also damn foolish to go after a HNWI to burn their fingers... Ultimately become the owners of a 10% PCH in one example Wink

See the execution of these deals are master minded.. SEC has very little to do in these scenarios due to allowing of director dealings..

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Rushi is the slightly spoiled kid of Captain dynasty. As slstock said its not easy to manipulate JKH however he can sheds his JKH shares at any price as the cost is next to nothing. Many of us know his investor side but I think a hand full of know his tradings. silent

I never considered Dilith as a manipulator. He’s just granted (somehow) billions of money to be wasted. However all the banks now have no option but support Dilith rather see him failing. Without the top level supports he is just a piece of ..........

Nimal is simply the master of manipulators (at his level)

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

All these manipulators and so called innocent guys act with in the existing laws.If sec introduces new laws they will find a method to bypass those laws.These things are happening not only every stock exchanges but also everywhere in the world.

It is the battle between our ethics and greed.As usual greediness always overpowers the ethics.It is the human nature.Of course you/we have the capability to overcome that human nature but it is ur/our choice.It is realy difficult to control these things with laws as law has lot of loop holes.

Best way for not to get cheated or not to get trapped is we should educate ourselves and should use common sense or think twice before act.But then again greediness interferes to weaken this wise ways.

At the sametime authorities-in this case SEC-have responsibility to atleast control extreme wrong actions or day light robberies.

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Now more than 50% of JKH is owned by foreign funds. Most of them are new investors who are not ready to shed even at 250/- levels, in normal circumstances. They are for the longer term. So Captains and foreign funds own more than 80% of JKH, making it relatively illiquid than six months back.

So JKH can be moved freely. But I am not sure the person who moves JKH is Captain.

Currently JKH can pressure CSE downwards, as most recommendations are to sell JKH. But if it comes bellow 200/- or perhaps 190/- levels recommendations may change. By the time investors can see how they performed in the 2nd quarter of 2013.

At a certain point investors may look at ways to go forward without JKH. Right now not only JKH entire set of Milanka shares are highly volatile and weak. We saw this in the morning. Milanka had a fast upward move than ASI, and then start descending rapidly.

IF GREG becomes stronger, story may have been different.

tharindu1


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

JKH drop venava kiyala anith shares sell karanna epa panic vela .............antimata pasutavennna vei market eka up venava sure panic venna epa guys...............

8Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Empty After the JKH deal? Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:59 pm

sharemarket

sharemarket
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

After the deal we can expect next bull run...I think tommorw Very Happy

The Alchemist


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

sharemarket wrote:After the deal we can expect next bull run...I think tommorw Very Happy

can you please elaborate on what you know about the JKH deal ?

10Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Empty Re: Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:05 pm

sharemarket

sharemarket
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

The Alchemist wrote:
sharemarket wrote:After the deal we can expect next bull run...I think tommorw Very Happy

can you please elaborate on what you know about the JKH deal ?
200-205 range,That,s why they price control.It,s a big deal....millions...billions Smile

11Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Empty Re: Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:15 pm

wgsaman

wgsaman
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

who is the buyer/seller?

12Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Empty Re: Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:22 pm

sureshot

sureshot
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

sure not NSB this time. Very Happy

dennang kaasi........

13Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Empty Re: Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:01 pm

The Alchemist


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

sharemarket wrote:
The Alchemist wrote:
sharemarket wrote:After the deal we can expect next bull run...I think tommorw Very Happy

can you please elaborate on what you know about the JKH deal ?
200-205 range,That,s why they price control.It,s a big deal....millions...billions Smile

Yes i think your right. JKH came down from 229 to 203. impact on ASPI is i think about 100 points. Due to this and some brokerages putting out research report that JKH is overvalued,and others panicking due to JKH price decline, is one of the main reasons overall market has come down from 6000 to 57++. In reality, i think their is a very good reason for JKH price decline and it will facilitate this "mega deal" and the price of JKH is adjusting due to the dilution effect ! Buyer could be a Sovereign Fund ? alternatively, it could be a Rights Issue (underwritten by a strategic investor) to raise the required capital. btw, all this is pure speculation on my part.

14Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Empty Re: Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:08 pm

malanp


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics


Today Rushi Captain collected JKH, that is what happened.

15Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Empty Re: Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:53 pm

sanju351

sanju351
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

malanp wrote:
Today Rushi Captain collected JKH, that is what happened.


You are absolutley correct - see what i psot this morning - my thinking was right ..

Quote my previous post part of it ..

JKH is a good share no doubt about it for sure
But people manipulate this for collection and to sell to big guns and foreign funds ..

May be Captions connected parties doing this for collection and maybe he had got the order from a foreign fund for a big parcel..

They are not thinking about small scale investors and no body talk against these power full rich people when they manipulate

When they manipulate JKH to collect at low price the whole market gets panic and all stocks drags down .But when they sell JKH in big parcels it goes as crossings and effect on the floor is minimum but market dips to low levels hurting middle class investors making Brokers Rich ...

Hope thay have collected enough and may be tomorrow even JKH price will shoot to 220 Levels again making a dark green market ..

Lets wait and see ..

sanju351

sanju351
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

.will be green t

May be following 02 issues had driven the markt down ..

Refer the CSE announcement regarding employee share issue -JKH /SAMP

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/1341349850156_.pdf

May be the staff had sold JKH to Captions family who was collecting for a deal may be Captions played the trick and dragged the Price down through the Employees who recived nearly 315 000 JKH shars - Captions were smart and they collected a lot more than that as panick sellers pour in May be Captions connected parties doing this for collection and maybe he had got the order from a foreign fund for a big parcel..
..
It may be over now and may be we will see the real GREEN SOON ..


JKH is a good share no doubt about it for sure
But people manipulate this for collection and to sell to big guns and foreign funds ..
They are not thinking about small scale investors and no body talk against these power full rich people when they manipulate

When they manipulate JKH to collect at low price the whole market gets panic and all stocks drags down .But when they sell JKH in big parcels it goes as crossings and effect on the floor is minimum but market dips to low levels hurting middle class investors making Brokers Rich ...

Hope thay have collected enough and may be tomorrow even JKH price will shoot to 220 Levels again making a dark green market ..

Lets wait and see ..

17Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Empty Re: Rusi - The Captain of all Manipulations Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:18 am

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Dreaming is not prohibited.

sanju351

sanju351
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Redbulls wrote:Dreaming is not prohibited.


Bulls are always bulls and they have no brain to dream

nimantha80


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Malaysians bought for long term investment and EPF sold it for dollars.Now meaning of CSE is Captains Stock Exchangesad to say.

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

sanju351 wrote:
Redbulls wrote:Dreaming is not prohibited.


Bulls are always bulls and they have no brain to dream

Were u not a bull then?
However, I agree referring to you about that 'no brain' part..

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Some guys here are so optimistic and try desperately to bring up the market by posting 1000 talks about green days..
Even if the day is going to be red, a post comes from them in the morning or day before giving many reasons for green days.. Laughing

We also have to think whether the corporate earnings, economic conditions, interest rates, global picture are rosy before we assess the market behaviour..

Other than few optimistic counters, still to me none of the above have a clear cut indication of a rise.. Markets also rise when main caps like JHK, DIST could be lifted..

JKH is a game changer, one of my good freinds once told me if you wanna monitor ASI, monitor the JKH patterns.. He's quite rite.. Being the largest cap in the CSE, it could be used to play many facinating dramas Wink
Only if we identify that something's on the cards, we can capitalise..

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

smallville wrote:Some guys here are so optimistic and try desperately to bring up the market by posting 1000 talks about green days..
Even if the day is going to be red, a post comes from them in the morning or day before giving many reasons for green days.. Laughing

We also have to think whether the corporate earnings, economic conditions, interest rates, global picture are rosy before we assess the market behaviour..

Other than few optimistic counters, still to me none of the above have a clear cut indication of a rise.. Markets also rise when main caps like JHK, DIST could be lifted..

JKH is a game changer, one of my good freinds once told me if you wanna monitor ASI, monitor the JKH patterns.. He's quite rite.. Being the largest cap in the CSE, it could be used to play many facinating dramas Wink
Only if we identify that something's on the cards, we can capitalise..

I strongly suspect, most of the greeny days, so called positive posts and polls by the same person (May be HNWI backed) but on different ID?

NaminiInduwara


Stock Trader

hariesha wrote:Now more than 50% of JKH is owned by foreign funds. Most of them are new investors who are not ready to shed even at 250/- levels, in normal circumstances. They are for the longer term. So Captains and foreign funds own more than 80% of JKH, making it relatively illiquid than six months back.

So JKH can be moved freely. But I am not sure the person who moves JKH is Captain.

Currently JKH can pressure CSE downwards, as most recommendations are to sell JKH. But if it comes bellow 200/- or perhaps 190/- levels recommendations may change. By the time investors can see how they performed in the 2nd quarter of 2013.

At a certain point investors may look at ways to go forward without JKH. Right now not only JKH entire set of Milanka shares are highly volatile and weak. We saw this in the morning. Milanka had a fast upward move than ASI, and then start descending rapidly.

IF GREG becomes stronger, story may have been different.

This guy Sandstorm is just making allegations..Rusi Captain has been the major buyer of JKH, HNB, SAMPATH, COMB during last few weeks. from 221 to 204 Rsui has not sold Rusi had only bought. He bought 8% Sampath from market from 204 to Rs.215 levels so Rusi does not manipulate. only John Keells Stock Brokers are dumping some JKH quantities of foreigners making in a move to bring market indices down. Rusi is not a client of John Keells Stock Brokers he trades via Capital Trust.

People don't know who the real manipulations are...real manipulators are people who mislead the investors by saying Aviva is going to sell Aviva NDB insurance to 150 to 180 million US Dollars. people thought CDIC share is worth over Rs.660 even in this forum but it is only Aviva NDB Finance a major shareholder of CDIC who was selling the stake of Aviva NDB (CTCE) not CDIC and NDB Bank is only geting US $ 59 million...those people who played with such shares by misleading are the manipulators...I heard SEC is carrying out an investigation on CDIC too...

Captains are originated from Iran and they never pump and dump to date they have done long term investments in Colombo...the guys who did pump and dump are guys who lost the jobs by manipulating TFC share.

sanju351

sanju351
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

slstock wrote:Well to be frank I have not seen more than 10% fluctuations of JKH within a day. Also it is not that easy to manipulate JKH to extremes. So am not sure how bothered we should be of this.

The main issue is as JKH is highest cap, even 5% movement effect index and it is noticeable.

Oh you got it wrong dear when JKH goes down by 1 rupee ASPI dROPS BY 10 Points
Dont tell lies if you dont know the facts - Just check with a Expert ..

What they say is very Correct Russi Caption and his son is also a mafia - what they do is they drop JKH and theen ASPI drops and maket will come down then their conetected parties collection is ripe .

JKH is the Number one in Market Capitalization and it is effecting heavily on ASPI .

sanju351

sanju351
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

NaminiInduwara wrote:
hariesha wrote:Now more than 50% of JKH is owned by foreign funds. Most of them are new investors who are not ready to shed even at 250/- levels, in normal circumstances. They are for the longer term. So Captains and foreign funds own more than 80% of JKH, making it relatively illiquid than six months back.

So JKH can be moved freely. But I am not sure the person who moves JKH is Captain.

Currently JKH can pressure CSE downwards, as most recommendations are to sell JKH. But if it comes bellow 200/- or perhaps 190/- levels recommendations may change. By the time investors can see how they performed in the 2nd quarter of 2013.

At a certain point investors may look at ways to go forward without JKH. Right now not only JKH entire set of Milanka shares are highly volatile and weak. We saw this in the morning. Milanka had a fast upward move than ASI, and then start descending rapidly.

IF GREG becomes stronger, story may have been different.

This guy Sandstorm is just making allegations..Rusi Captain has been the major buyer of JKH, HNB, SAMPATH, COMB during last few weeks. from 221 to 204 Rsui has not sold Rusi had only bought. He bought 8% Sampath from market from 204 to Rs.215 levels so Rusi does not manipulate. only John Keells Stock Brokers are dumping some JKH quantities of foreigners making in a move to bring market indices down. Rusi is not a client of John Keells Stock Brokers he trades via Capital Trust.

People don't know who the real manipulations are...real manipulators are people who mislead the investors by saying Aviva is going to sell Aviva NDB insurance to 150 to 180 million US Dollars. people thought CDIC share is worth over Rs.660 even in this forum but it is only Aviva NDB Finance a major shareholder of CDIC who was selling the stake of Aviva NDB (CTCE) not CDIC and NDB Bank is only geting US $ 59 million...those people who played with such shares by misleading are the manipulators...I heard SEC is carrying out an investigation on CDIC too...

Captains are originated from Iran and they never pump and dump to date they have done long term investments in Colombo...the guys who did pump and dump are guys who lost the jobs by manipulating TFC share.


You are wrong again my dear - Check with your brokers Russi caption had collected a massive amount of JKh @ 203-207 Levels to sell to a Forigen part @ 220 ..deal will be on next month ..

Yes CDIC and NDB sold out AVIA totaly to AIA for USD 109 - But the cash comes to Sri lanka in Dec as Exchange controllers have to finalze things ..



See the detailed announcement issued By CDIC & NDB In CSE Site
Done try to safe guard these type of MAFIA ...

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