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takefawaz


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Senior Equity Analytic
Dear fellows,

How can somebody afford to pay 150k per product? its common sense. Come on.

takefawaz


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
From where did you get the news Indranige nandamma? No news reported this story...

Please dont turn this forum into another BBS facebook wall.

takefawaz


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Please see the original video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbJGClB7wN4

takefawaz


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Its only in Sri Lanka that you dont get Veg certificate. All the middle eastern countries you get the Veg label. Look for the Green dot on a biscuit/cake pack. It does not even contain egg.
Get the stat correctly or if you want first hand evidence go stand near a butcher shop in a major city in SL and count the peaople purchasing beef. Unfortunately its the buddhists.

I was typing these since somebody raised this issue.

takefawaz


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RiPJADF1tW4

ninja


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@smallville: I have no idea how do you say Muslims don't donate blood? Being a Muslim, I along with my Muslim colleagues proud to say that we have donated blood to our soldiers during the war time.
Anything becomes halal if it can save ones life in a death/life situation.

Regarding the pain:
The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal struggles, writhes, shakes and kicks, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles deficient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body.

Campaign against Halal:
It is perfectly alright for non-muslim to protest against issuing halal certificate in an ethical manner without spreading hatred. Challenging the legal system would have been ideal than what happens today. It is not common Muslim who asks for Halal certificate but big businesses. Whether its run by Muslim or a non-muslim. So, who ever wants to stop the Halal certification, tell that to these businesses.
Bottom line: Today, They are using the halal issue to hurt the Muslims economically.
Tomorrow, a group will make the beard as an excuse to loot the Muslim's property and take advantage of the situation.

bakapandithaya

bakapandithaya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@WildBear wrote:Does ACJA audit their accounts and reveal to public ? Evil or Very Mad


WB, if u don't have full knowledge about something, pls don't discuss till u get full knowledge.

ACJU have external audit & even u can go & check their a/cs. This is mentioned in their media release.

Hereafter, don't post anything without full knowledge regarding that subject:evil:

bakapandithaya

bakapandithaya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
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@ smalvil - I donated 3 times when I was in the uni.

I u want, I can send u da scanned copy of the donation report Evil or Very Mad

takefawaz


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Last edited by takefawaz on Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:47 pm; edited 1 time in total

Malika1990

Malika1990
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@sanju351 wrote:
@smallville wrote:
@Hanoifortune wrote:
Muslim will live with out halal tag as they had been living last 1434years.But,Muslim will never change to non halal food as you have changed.pls remember your religion also do not permit to consume meat,drinks,drugs,swine by product and etc.


Is Halal a quality certification? NO..
Does the organisation that offers this certificate engaged in community service other than funding the money to up lift Muslim community? NO

Then why should non-Muslims pay for this? If Muslims want, why they cant pay something extra and get their hear-consent fulfilled?

Japan was said to be existing without Halal, so the Muslim community in Japan should be starving or making their own meals to survive.

We all know Muslims dont donate blood..
Tell me, is blood Halal?

If a Muslim patient has to undergo pumping blood to his veins, does he request Halal blood?
Or do hospitals treat blood by its category, such as A+,B-,O, etc.. or Halal and Non-halal?

If a Muslim undergoes a surgery or require urgent blood to save his life, its the blood of other nationals he gets.. So if everything is treated as halal, Muslims will have to die in hospitals..

I dont get the point of this..


Just have a look ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qgsxyHrOSA&feature=share

Every one should watch this full video

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
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@ninja wrote:@smallville: I have no idea how do you say Muslims don't donate blood? Being a Muslim, I along with my Muslim colleagues proud to say that we have donated blood to our soldiers during the war time.
Anything becomes halal if it can save ones life in a death/life situation.

@bakapandithaya wrote:@ smalvil - I donated 3 times when I was in the uni.

I u want, I can send u da scanned copy of the donation report Evil or Very Mad

U guys must be the rare breed who dont follow the pack. But unfortunately, the majority I see and heard DONT. Recently I saw in an office, a guy who has to give blood for a FBS (fasting blood sugar) screening, refused to do so. And after a lot of explaining from the nurses only he agreed.
I'm proud to see that we have genuine ppl in here.. Wink

Halal is a business for some companies, they just put the label there so it can be sold to Muslims.
If you clearly look at the situation all of us are just pawns in this.



Hanoifortune

Hanoifortune
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
WILD BEAR-
pls kindly read Wikipedia, Halal tag has been started after 1991, but Muslim has been consuming halal for last 1434years.So Muslim did not ask Halal tag. They know what to consume without tag.
If my figure is incorrect, pls kindly let us know the amount ACJU charges for audit and confirmation. You may visit them to verify or you may call any Buddhist owned company and check with them (pls check the product, sales, cost of tag , audit method, average cost per piece)
ACJU do not transfer these fund to any other Muslims .The revenue is barely enough to cover the cost. Since ACJU is under parliament act, The Gov/AG can check their account any time. If any of the listed company supply halal tag product you have a right to ask the cost as an investor.
If cost of living in Sri Lanka is high due to this tag, people must protest against those manufactures and not against ACJU. If cost of tag erodes company profit/sales they must avoid taking it completely.
There are Halal tagged foods without meat, alcohol and swine by product. It is good for everyone who is not permitted to consume those. Manufactures do not need to recite Quran verses on their product if they have to print the tag. The Tag would cost less than 5 cents per piece. If you buy 10000 products a year it would cost less than 500/-.what can you do with 500/- in Sri Lanka?
SMALLVILLE-
I have been to Japan, but not resided for long time there. Therefore, I am not sure about Halal thing there. But majority Japanese do not belong to any religion, so they do not bother about halal/non halal or even god and supreme leaders.
I have donated blood not only to Sinhalese and Tamils in Sri Lanka but also to Vietnamese and Singaporean. There is no such thing in Islam not to donate blood. If so, what would happen to patients in those 54 Muslim Countries? It is our people mentality in Sri Lanka. It is like saying not to eat halal that you would become a Muslim. People in Sri Lanka think they would become a Buddhists, Muslim, Christians and Hindus if they get other races blood.it is the duty of the entire religious leader to eradicate this thinking

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
We have to respect all religions sentiments....So we must commend ACJU for their earnest to solve this issue amicably.

The question is ....if they say there is additional charge for Halal Certification and it has been unreasonably levied on non muslims tell

why the price of chicken meat of Halal & Non Halal shops are same....its 380/- shouldnt it be less like 350/- or some thing...

why did those non halal shop owners did not pass that benefit to non muslims ?

takefawaz


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
My sincere opinion is ACJU must stop its activities by end of February ( issuing halal certificates) and wait till the Govt. decision on its future.

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
I think this thread is now deviated from main focus and dragged in to discussing of totaly religious matters.
Can we focus on current issue only ? Otherwise this would end up with mudslings to religions.

ninja


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@smallville: You have witnessed a very rare section of the Muslims and trying to apply it in general. May be this person who refused to give blood has had some other reasons for it. This is the pathetic situation prevailing today in the country. Just to remind you there is a place call Palestine and they need to donate blood every time the Israel attack them.

Whitebull


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Can anyone tell how ACJU give that certificate ? What is their procedure to monitor those products are realy halal or not ?

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@bakapandithaya wrote:
@WildBear wrote:Does ACJA audit their accounts and reveal to public ? Evil or Very Mad


WB, if u don't have full knowledge about something, pls don't discuss till u get full knowledge.

ACJU have external audit & even u can go & check their a/cs. This is mentioned in their media release.

Hereafter, don't post anything without full knowledge regarding that subject:evil:

Ok, I will ask one question, Is ACJU incorporated in Sri Lankan law?, If you listen to the parliament debate led by the opposition leader you will realize this.

If Muslim people really want to consume halal food, I would suggest this- Get together all Muslim Brothers (10% of Sri Lankan Population) and make a fund, then you can use that money to give ACJU to issue Halal Certificate. Do not be a burden to others(90% of Sinhalese and Tamil) to full fill your believes. Good Example for ACJA is the campaign lead by Sri Lankan Businessmen(All Sinhala,Muslim and Tamil) called "Ganna Ape De" campaign, Do they ask for money ? No

takefawaz


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Dear WB, pls go out to the supermarket and compare the prices of halal and non halal items. Let it be chicken, yougurt, milk powder. And you will realize the truth.

takefawaz


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
It's very simple, boycott halal items. Market is run by only two principles. Demand and supply. Let the market decide.

ninja


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@WB It is not the Muslims who wanted a Halal certification body but majority non-muslim business owners as they wanted to penetrate into Muslim masses. Tell them to discontinue the halal certification. Problem will be resolved.

bakapandithaya

bakapandithaya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@WildBear wrote:
@bakapandithaya wrote:
@WildBear wrote:Does ACJA audit their accounts and reveal to public ? Evil or Very Mad


WB, if u don't have full knowledge about something, pls don't discuss till u get full know
ACJU have external audit & even u can go & check their a/cs. This is mentioned in their media release.

Hereafter, don't post anything without full knowledge regarding that subject:evil:

Ok, I will ask one question, Is ACJU incorporated in Sri Lankan law?, If you listen to the parliament debate led by the opposition leader you will realize this.


It was incorporated by the Act No. 51 of 2000 of the Parliament of the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka.

Dear WB, I am repeating again, don't post anything without proper knowledge regarding that matter.

Don't make statement blindly stating he said, she said, do a research & then post
@WildBear wrote:
@bakapandithaya wrote:
@WildBear wrote:Does ACJA audit their accounts and reveal to public ? Evil or Very Mad


WB, if u don't have full knowledge about something, pls don't discuss till u get full know
ACJU have external audit & even u can go & check their a/cs. This is mentioned in their media release.

Hereafter, don't post anything without full knowledge regarding that subject:evil:

Ok, I will ask one question, Is ACJU incorporated in Sri Lankan law?, If you listen to the parliament debate led by the opposition leader you will realize this.


It was incorporated by the Act No. 51 of 2000 of the Parliament of the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka.

Dear WB, I am repeating again, don't post anything without proper knowledge regarding that matter.

Don't make statement blindly stating he said, she said, do a research & then post

Vptilak


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Whitebull wrote:Can anyone tell how ACJU give that certificate ? What is their procedure to monitor those products are realy halal or not ?
You are right. All nonsense.

bakapandithaya

bakapandithaya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Vptilak wrote:
@Whitebull wrote:Can anyone tell how ACJU give that certificate ? What is their procedure to monitor those products are realy halal or not ?
You are right. All nonsense.

If u have any clarification regarding this, go & talk with ACJU? They will explain u this well. They already spoke regarding this with Mr. Basil rajapanksha,

Do u think they issue this certificate blindly? How they can issue the certificate without a proper procedure. I think even 10th class passed student can understand this, but unfortunately, some people in this forum cannot understand this.

Listen to the question & answers by Moulavi Murshid Mulaffer, he was explaining very clearly.
See the media release yesterday (21st Feb).


Whitebull


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Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@bakapandithaya wrote:Do u think they issue this certificate blindly? How they can issue the certificate without a proper procedure. I think even 10th class passed student can understand this, but unfortunately, some people in this forum cannot understand this.
As you have mentioned, UNFORTUNATELY It seems We have not passed the 10th class,,,,,,So Could you -BAKAPANDITHA BROTHER - please explain this to us(ignorant bulls Embarassed ) in simple manner ?

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